Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 13:20     Subject: Re:100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

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Anonymous wrote:Every agency has its own dead-weight, and you could get to 100,000 just getting rid of them. The problem being is that the entire federal system is about keeping those people in their jobs.

If Trump can cut that Gordian knot, then you'd have a cheaper and better federal bureaucracy.


My agency is sorely under staffed and many of us are doing 2 people’s jobs. I work extra unpaid hours every week just to get the work done because I had to absorb the duties of someone who left. You sound hateful and ignorant.


And you sound naive and lack reading comprehension. Every agency has some people who do real important work. Most also have deadweight employees and wasteful make-work programs that add zero real value for taxpayers.


So does every single corporation that I have ever worked at. Have you never worked with incompetent do nothings?

dp.. but do nothings in the government are paid for by taxpayers, whereas those in the corporate world aren't.



Actually, a lot of federal contractors are private employees who are paid with your tax dollars. And many of them make more than the feds with similar jobs.


Actually, the contractors who do the actual work will be fine. It’s the useless fat at the top that’s getting cut.


My dh's federal job is about half making sure the fed contractors who aren't really invested in the work actually show up and do it. The other half is awarding contracts.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 13:17     Subject: Re:100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

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Anonymous wrote:Every agency has its own dead-weight, and you could get to 100,000 just getting rid of them. The problem being is that the entire federal system is about keeping those people in their jobs.

If Trump can cut that Gordian knot, then you'd have a cheaper and better federal bureaucracy.


My agency is sorely under staffed and many of us are doing 2 people’s jobs. I work extra unpaid hours every week just to get the work done because I had to absorb the duties of someone who left. You sound hateful and ignorant.


And you sound naive and lack reading comprehension. Every agency has some people who do real important work. Most also have deadweight employees and wasteful make-work programs that add zero real value for taxpayers.


So does every single corporation that I have ever worked at. Have you never worked with incompetent do nothings?

dp.. but do nothings in the government are paid for by taxpayers, whereas those in the corporate world aren't.



Actually, a lot of federal contractors are private employees who are paid with your tax dollars. And many of them make more than the feds with similar jobs.


Actually, the contractors who do the actual work will be fine. It’s the useless fat at the top that’s getting cut.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 13:01     Subject: Re:100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

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Anonymous wrote:Every agency has its own dead-weight, and you could get to 100,000 just getting rid of them. The problem being is that the entire federal system is about keeping those people in their jobs.

If Trump can cut that Gordian knot, then you'd have a cheaper and better federal bureaucracy.


My agency is sorely under staffed and many of us are doing 2 people’s jobs. I work extra unpaid hours every week just to get the work done because I had to absorb the duties of someone who left. You sound hateful and ignorant.


And you sound naive and lack reading comprehension. Every agency has some people who do real important work. Most also have deadweight employees and wasteful make-work programs that add zero real value for taxpayers.


So does every single corporation that I have ever worked at. Have you never worked with incompetent do nothings?

dp.. but do nothings in the government are paid for by taxpayers, whereas those in the corporate world aren't.

Do-nothings in the corporate world are paid by the shareholders. If they in anyway contract for government work, it's paid for by the taxpayers.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 13:00     Subject: 100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

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Anonymous wrote:He and Steve Bannon have been clear since 2015 about dismantling the "administrative state" - which basically means not having a functional federal government, thus making our enemies happy.

I am not sure why people want Trump lackeys looking at meat processing plants of their GOP donors to make sure the facilities are clean, or lackeys approving drugs for medical use, or lackeyes sitting in air traffic control towers.

But hey, we will get the government we deserve after this election, so its all good.


It's like conservative voters want to go back to buying rancid meat, child labor, and not knowing what's in your drugs.

I'm fine with shipping federal jobs out of DC, though, most of us can barely afford to live in this metro area.


‘memba when Musk cut the Twitter workforce by 80% and all the progressives howled that the company would quickly collapse? How’d that work out?


https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/musk-twitter-x-acquisition-one-year-user-revenue-decline-1235770297/#:~:text=In%20March%2C%20Musk%20told%20employees,a%20%E2%80%9Cheavy%20debt%20load.%E2%80%9D
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 12:54     Subject: 100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

Anonymous wrote:Since most federal jobs are already in California, Virginia, Maryland, and Texas, I'm not sure cutting just DC federal jobs are going to do it. We can cut some red (Virginia, Texas) state federal jobs too!

It would be great to get a lot of the red states off the federal dole so they can be self supporting.


VA is a Blue state.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 12:54     Subject: Re:100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

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Anonymous wrote:Every agency has its own dead-weight, and you could get to 100,000 just getting rid of them. The problem being is that the entire federal system is about keeping those people in their jobs.

If Trump can cut that Gordian knot, then you'd have a cheaper and better federal bureaucracy.


My agency is sorely under staffed and many of us are doing 2 people’s jobs. I work extra unpaid hours every week just to get the work done because I had to absorb the duties of someone who left. You sound hateful and ignorant.



This! There might have been dead weight decades ago but the agencies I’ve worked at are very lean. Now with boomers retiring, it’s pretty painful.

Boomers retiring and Millennials having better options. They don’t need the health insurance because most companies provide that benefit and those that do not have access to the ACA.



Most of my team are millennials. But I think because of the decades spent slamming the government, folks don’t want to work for it.


Well that and the pension and benefits that were the main draw back before Reagan don’t exist any longer. My father, a retired Fed with a PhD, could have made a ton more money in the private sector, but opted for public for the following reasons, in this order: paying back the country that accepted him as an immigrant, pension and benefits, and job security (no market volatility that his industry and many others are subject to). But don’t worry all you Republican ghouls, he was among the last in his agency with his lifetime pension and benefits, and he won’t be on the books much longer given a recent diagnosis. So in short, f*** off you anti-immigrant ani-gov trolls. He was a better man and cared more for his country and contributed more than any of use wastes of skin ever wills.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 12:54     Subject: 100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine. I have a PhD in STEM, I will go to private industry and make 4x more money.


If this was an option for you, you'd be doing that right now.


I know many people who work for the federal government b/c they believe in serving their country. I know that seems crazy to you.


There's too many of them. Too much bloat. Our tax system can"t afford them anymore.

Time for some of them to go into private industry. Fed.gov should not be a jobs program.


How much of the taxes paid goes to government officials' salary? $260 billion per year. The government budget is $6 Trillion, so the salaries represent about 4 percent of the federal budget.
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Post 07/17/2024 12:53     Subject: 100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump was targeted by an Iranian plot to assassinate him (separate from the domestic shooter this past weekend at his rally!) and he/R’s in general still want to gut the federal government? Including FBI, CIA, NSA? And stop sharing intelligence info with our allies? It doesn’t make sense. The US and our allies are under constant threat of terrorist attacks. We already know Iran has infiltrated or even outright lead some of the Palestinian protests. The US would be a lot less safe if their plan went through.


It makes sense if you want to destroy the country.


We have like 2+ million federal employees. A cut of 50-100K is a blip on the radar.

You never want to cut anything. Just grow the behemoth until it takes over everything and we collapse like Soviet Russia.

TBF, USSR didn't collapse because of the size of the government.


it collapsed because they attempted Command Economics (a planned economy) and that never works.

A government bureaucrat telling everyone who/what/when/where/how/why for every aspect of their lives will fail every time.
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Post 07/17/2024 12:41     Subject: 100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump was targeted by an Iranian plot to assassinate him (separate from the domestic shooter this past weekend at his rally!) and he/R’s in general still want to gut the federal government? Including FBI, CIA, NSA? And stop sharing intelligence info with our allies? It doesn’t make sense. The US and our allies are under constant threat of terrorist attacks. We already know Iran has infiltrated or even outright lead some of the Palestinian protests. The US would be a lot less safe if their plan went through.


It makes sense if you want to destroy the country.


We have like 2+ million federal employees. A cut of 50-100K is a blip on the radar.

You never want to cut anything. Just grow the behemoth until it takes over everything and we collapse like Soviet Russia.

TBF, USSR didn't collapse because of the size of the government.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 12:37     Subject: 100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

A ton of federal jobs could go remote and others could be increasingly automated via AI.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 12:32     Subject: 100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

Anonymous wrote:Since most federal jobs are already in California, Virginia, Maryland, and Texas, I'm not sure cutting just DC federal jobs are going to do it. We can cut some red (Virginia, Texas) state federal jobs too!

It would be great to get a lot of the red states off the federal dole so they can be self supporting.


Yes, you can cut some red state jobs too! We're not against that.

Do you think you're being clever by pitting one group against another? You aren't.

These budget deficits and ridiculous federal pensions are killing the U.S.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 12:28     Subject: 100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

Since most federal jobs are already in California, Virginia, Maryland, and Texas, I'm not sure cutting just DC federal jobs are going to do it. We can cut some red (Virginia, Texas) state federal jobs too!

It would be great to get a lot of the red states off the federal dole so they can be self supporting.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 11:33     Subject: Re:100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Every agency has its own dead-weight, and you could get to 100,000 just getting rid of them. The problem being is that the entire federal system is about keeping those people in their jobs.

If Trump can cut that Gordian knot, then you'd have a cheaper and better federal bureaucracy.


My agency is sorely under staffed and many of us are doing 2 people’s jobs. I work extra unpaid hours every week just to get the work done because I had to absorb the duties of someone who left. You sound hateful and ignorant.



This! There might have been dead weight decades ago but the agencies I’ve worked at are very lean. Now with boomers retiring, it’s pretty painful.

Boomers retiring and Millennials having better options. They don’t need the health insurance because most companies provide that benefit and those that do not have access to the ACA.



Most of my team are millennials. But I think because of the decades spent slamming the government, folks don’t want to work for it.


Well, I worked in a few different federal agencies and I can tell you, it's a bear to get anything done.

There are gatekeepers and politics everywhere, so you have to get a zillion signatures to get anything done.

This government has the agility of a Koala Bear when doing things, but it knows how to collect taxes and write checks, because 70% of the federal spending is transfer payments from one person to another... and DCUM is scared to death of that going away.


I thought it would get better at my agency as some of the more senior people retired. It’s only getting worse.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 11:29     Subject: Re:100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

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Anonymous wrote:Every agency has its own dead-weight, and you could get to 100,000 just getting rid of them. The problem being is that the entire federal system is about keeping those people in their jobs.

If Trump can cut that Gordian knot, then you'd have a cheaper and better federal bureaucracy.


My agency is sorely under staffed and many of us are doing 2 people’s jobs. I work extra unpaid hours every week just to get the work done because I had to absorb the duties of someone who left. You sound hateful and ignorant.



This! There might have been dead weight decades ago but the agencies I’ve worked at are very lean. Now with boomers retiring, it’s pretty painful.

Boomers retiring and Millennials having better options. They don’t need the health insurance because most companies provide that benefit and those that do not have access to the ACA.



Most of my team are millennials. But I think because of the decades spent slamming the government, folks don’t want to work for it.


Well, I worked in a few different federal agencies and I can tell you, it's a bear to get anything done.

There are gatekeepers and politics everywhere, so you have to get a zillion signatures to get anything done.

This government has the agility of a Koala Bear when doing things, but it knows how to collect taxes and write checks, because 70% of the federal spending is transfer payments from one person to another... and DCUM is scared to death of that going away.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2024 11:22     Subject: 100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump was targeted by an Iranian plot to assassinate him (separate from the domestic shooter this past weekend at his rally!) and he/R’s in general still want to gut the federal government? Including FBI, CIA, NSA? And stop sharing intelligence info with our allies? It doesn’t make sense. The US and our allies are under constant threat of terrorist attacks. We already know Iran has infiltrated or even outright lead some of the Palestinian protests. The US would be a lot less safe if their plan went through.


It makes sense if you want to destroy the country.


We have like 2+ million federal employees. A cut of 50-100K is a blip on the radar.

You never want to cut anything. Just grow the behemoth until it takes over everything and we collapse like Soviet Russia.