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Anonymous wrote:Cucumbers. I used to be neutral, but as I get older and wiser, I realize they are just plain evil.

Really? I’m the other way. Hated them when I was younger, but now, I absolutely love the refreshing crunch on something like the turkey sandwich I had yesterday.

I’ve always liked them but now I love them. My kids eat them like candy. They love them cold and crisp by the pound.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid vaccination. I've had every shot they recommend, 6 to date and I was very down on people who refused to get the shot in that first year. I wasn't sympathetic to the medical workers and others who got fired for their refusal. Now I am very sympathetic and respect anyone's choice. I still think they are wrong but in the beginning, we were told the shot will keep you from getting the virus and end Covid just as we were able to wipe out polio and so many other diseases with vaccination. I've had Covid twice now and we now know it doesn't work at all to prevent it, but probably makes the symptoms less severe if you do come down with Covid. The many people in my life who never got the shot don't seem to prove that out. Most of them have never had Covid, or maybe only once with symptoms no worse than mine. So yes, I've completely changed my mind about other people's personal choices where at first I blamed them for it not going away.

Your opinion of how well something prevents death or serious illness doesn't make vaccination more or less of a personal choice. Vaccinations aren't a personal choice, it's part of living in society. Grow up.

I changed my mind on vaccines in large part because of attitudes like this. I simply don’t believe that anybody owes anything to “society” just because they happened to be born in a specific place. To be clear, I want everyone to safely and voluntarily participate in vaccines. But you can’t push that on to someone.

I also changed my mind on military service. Went from my experience leading me to believe everyone should serve because of the tremendous benefits (mandatory conscription) to now thinking the draft should be abolished. If the country cannot raise a volunteer military force during time of war then the people are telling you the country is not worth fighting for.

So you also are against measles vaccines? Or just the highly politicized vaccines?

And you do owe society - if you want to live with us and reap the benefits, economically, socially, emotionally, you need to agree to the basic health standards. Are you going to stop using public sewer systems or a zoning approved septic system because you think you don’t owe society a cholera free world? Cmon

I am against all vaccine mandates. To be clear, I want full, voluntary vaccination. But society shouldn’t allocate risk via mandate on the theory that it will benefit the majority at the cost of an extremely small minority.

And nobody owes society their body by virtue of simply being born somewhere.

We accept far more onerous mandates for far less benefit all the time. You’re espousing a view point that turns back progress 100 years. It’s so sad and I’m so sorry people have led you so far astray.

+1 million

Anonymous wrote:Cucumbers. I used to be neutral, but as I get older and wiser, I realize they are just plain evil.

Really? I’m the other way. Hated them when I was younger, but now, I absolutely love the refreshing crunch on something like the turkey sandwich I had yesterday.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid vaccination. I've had every shot they recommend, 6 to date and I was very down on people who refused to get the shot in that first year. I wasn't sympathetic to the medical workers and others who got fired for their refusal. Now I am very sympathetic and respect anyone's choice. I still think they are wrong but in the beginning, we were told the shot will keep you from getting the virus and end Covid just as we were able to wipe out polio and so many other diseases with vaccination. I've had Covid twice now and we now know it doesn't work at all to prevent it, but probably makes the symptoms less severe if you do come down with Covid. The many people in my life who never got the shot don't seem to prove that out. Most of them have never had Covid, or maybe only once with symptoms no worse than mine. So yes, I've completely changed my mind about other people's personal choices where at first I blamed them for it not going away.

Your opinion of how well something prevents death or serious illness doesn't make vaccination more or less of a personal choice. Vaccinations aren't a personal choice, it's part of living in society. Grow up.

I changed my mind on vaccines in large part because of attitudes like this. I simply don’t believe that anybody owes anything to “society” just because they happened to be born in a specific place. To be clear, I want everyone to safely and voluntarily participate in vaccines. But you can’t push that on to someone.

I also changed my mind on military service. Went from my experience leading me to believe everyone should serve because of the tremendous benefits (mandatory conscription) to now thinking the draft should be abolished. If the country cannot raise a volunteer military force during time of war then the people are telling you the country is not worth fighting for.

So you also are against measles vaccines? Or just the highly politicized vaccines?

And you do owe society - if you want to live with us and reap the benefits, economically, socially, emotionally, you need to agree to the basic health standards. Are you going to stop using public sewer systems or a zoning approved septic system because you think you don’t owe society a cholera free world? Cmon

I am against all vaccine mandates. To be clear, I want full, voluntary vaccination. But society shouldn’t allocate risk via mandate on the theory that it will benefit the majority at the cost of an extremely small minority.

And nobody owes society their body by virtue of simply being born somewhere.

We accept far more onerous mandates for far less benefit all the time. You’re espousing a view point that turns back progress 100 years. It’s so sad and I’m so sorry people have led you so far astray.

Cucumbers. I used to be neutral, but as I get older and wiser, I realize they are just plain evil.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid vaccination. I've had every shot they recommend, 6 to date and I was very down on people who refused to get the shot in that first year. I wasn't sympathetic to the medical workers and others who got fired for their refusal. Now I am very sympathetic and respect anyone's choice. I still think they are wrong but in the beginning, we were told the shot will keep you from getting the virus and end Covid just as we were able to wipe out polio and so many other diseases with vaccination. I've had Covid twice now and we now know it doesn't work at all to prevent it, but probably makes the symptoms less severe if you do come down with Covid. The many people in my life who never got the shot don't seem to prove that out. Most of them have never had Covid, or maybe only once with symptoms no worse than mine. So yes, I've completely changed my mind about other people's personal choices where at first I blamed them for it not going away.

Your opinion of how well something prevents death or serious illness doesn't make vaccination more or less of a personal choice. Vaccinations aren't a personal choice, it's part of living in society. Grow up.

You're insane. It certainly is a personal choice. I chose and will continue to choose to get every updated shot that comes out. But you must have a short memory if you don't recall how this vaccine was sold to us. And yes, we didn't know what we didn't know but now we know, it's barely effective at all-NOT 90%-at preventing a vaccinated person from getting Covid. The un-vaccinated these days are fairing just as well as those who got the shots.

No it’s not a personal choice. They don’t work if enough people don’t get them. This is not a new or hard concept. It’s why they’re required to go to school. Mass vaccination policies are literally humanity changing and medical miracles. And we’ve had them for decades.

Studies show the vaccines are super effective - you have no idea how many times you’ve been exposed, you have no idea how much the vaccines dampened the effects and you have no idea about the exposure rates for those without the shots or the severity of their symptoms.

But! Good news! There are massive, massive peer reviewed studies that you can go and read that detail with actual statistical evidence, how impressively effective the vaccines were! You don’t need to rely on your incomplete anecdotal recollection!

It’s honestly hard to believe there are still people so scientifically illiterate about things that have been accepted for decades - you’re exhibiting a lower understanding of vaccines than your grandparents had! That’s crazy to see such backwards progress!

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Anonymous wrote:Covid vaccination. I've had every shot they recommend, 6 to date and I was very down on people who refused to get the shot in that first year. I wasn't sympathetic to the medical workers and others who got fired for their refusal. Now I am very sympathetic and respect anyone's choice. I still think they are wrong but in the beginning, we were told the shot will keep you from getting the virus and end Covid just as we were able to wipe out polio and so many other diseases with vaccination. I've had Covid twice now and we now know it doesn't work at all to prevent it, but probably makes the symptoms less severe if you do come down with Covid. The many people in my life who never got the shot don't seem to prove that out. Most of them have never had Covid, or maybe only once with symptoms no worse than mine. So yes, I've completely changed my mind about other people's personal choices where at first I blamed them for it not going away.

Your opinion of how well something prevents death or serious illness doesn't make vaccination more or less of a personal choice. Vaccinations aren't a personal choice, it's part of living in society. Grow up.

You're insane. It certainly is a personal choice. I chose and will continue to choose to get every updated shot that comes out. But you must have a short memory if you don't recall how this vaccine was sold to us. And yes, we didn't know what we didn't know but now we know, it's barely effective at all-NOT 90%-at preventing a vaccinated person from getting Covid. The un-vaccinated these days are fairing just as well as those who got the shots.

A lot of “me too” from this thread like

the color orange

beets (and I also came to like roasted brussel sprouts)

that moms who work-for-pay and those who work-for-kisses (SAHM) are still Moms - so don’t judge

And I’ll add that I’ve changed my mind on:

Public School and vouchers

how to really go “green,” and

what it means to “be” a woman.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid vaccination. I've had every shot they recommend, 6 to date and I was very down on people who refused to get the shot in that first year. I wasn't sympathetic to the medical workers and others who got fired for their refusal. Now I am very sympathetic and respect anyone's choice. I still think they are wrong but in the beginning, we were told the shot will keep you from getting the virus and end Covid just as we were able to wipe out polio and so many other diseases with vaccination. I've had Covid twice now and we now know it doesn't work at all to prevent it, but probably makes the symptoms less severe if you do come down with Covid. The many people in my life who never got the shot don't seem to prove that out. Most of them have never had Covid, or maybe only once with symptoms no worse than mine. So yes, I've completely changed my mind about other people's personal choices where at first I blamed them for it not going away.

Your opinion of how well something prevents death or serious illness doesn't make vaccination more or less of a personal choice. Vaccinations aren't a personal choice, it's part of living in society. Grow up.

I changed my mind on vaccines in large part because of attitudes like this. I simply don’t believe that anybody owes anything to “society” just because they happened to be born in a specific place. To be clear, I want everyone to safely and voluntarily participate in vaccines. But you can’t push that on to someone.

I also changed my mind on military service. Went from my experience leading me to believe everyone should serve because of the tremendous benefits (mandatory conscription) to now thinking the draft should be abolished. If the country cannot raise a volunteer military force during time of war then the people are telling you the country is not worth fighting for.

So you also are against measles vaccines? Or just the highly politicized vaccines?

And you do owe society - if you want to live with us and reap the benefits, economically, socially, emotionally, you need to agree to the basic health standards. Are you going to stop using public sewer systems or a zoning approved septic system because you think you don’t owe society a cholera free world? Cmon

Anonymous wrote:All the money given put during the pandemic--ruined our economy. All the young people complaining about Boomers need to complain about:
-Stimulus checks
-unemployment payments that were higher than people's normal salaries
-lockdowns, so no commuting, dry cleaning, gad, childcare, etc, people saves a ton of money
-low interest rates leading to refinances that left people flush with cash

So you think the economy would have sailed along fine without any intervention during the pandemic?

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Anonymous wrote:Covid vaccination. I've had every shot they recommend, 6 to date and I was very down on people who refused to get the shot in that first year. I wasn't sympathetic to the medical workers and others who got fired for their refusal. Now I am very sympathetic and respect anyone's choice. I still think they are wrong but in the beginning, we were told the shot will keep you from getting the virus and end Covid just as we were able to wipe out polio and so many other diseases with vaccination. I've had Covid twice now and we now know it doesn't work at all to prevent it, but probably makes the symptoms less severe if you do come down with Covid. The many people in my life who never got the shot don't seem to prove that out. Most of them have never had Covid, or maybe only once with symptoms no worse than mine. So yes, I've completely changed my mind about other people's personal choices where at first I blamed them for it not going away.

Your opinion of how well something prevents death or serious illness doesn't make vaccination more or less of a personal choice. Vaccinations aren't a personal choice, it's part of living in society. Grow up.

I changed my mind on vaccines in large part because of attitudes like this. I simply don’t believe that anybody owes anything to “society” just because they happened to be born in a specific place. To be clear, I want everyone to safely and voluntarily participate in vaccines. But you can’t push that on to someone.

I also changed my mind on military service. Went from my experience leading me to believe everyone should serve because of the tremendous benefits (mandatory conscription) to now thinking the draft should be abolished. If the country cannot raise a volunteer military force during time of war then the people are telling you the country is not worth fighting for.

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Anonymous wrote:All the money given put during the pandemic--ruined our economy. All the young people complaining about Boomers need to complain about:
-Stimulus checks
-unemployment payments that were higher than people's normal salaries
-lockdowns, so no commuting, dry cleaning, gad, childcare, etc, people saves a ton of money
-low interest rates leading to refinances that left people flush with cash

are you trying to tell us something?

you changed your mind about... dry cleaning young people during the pandemic?

Saved not saves
Typo

Yeah I still don’t know what you changed your mind about.

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Anonymous wrote:All the money given put during the pandemic--ruined our economy. All the young people complaining about Boomers need to complain about:
-Stimulus checks
-unemployment payments that were higher than people's normal salaries
-lockdowns, so no commuting, dry cleaning, gad, childcare, etc, people saves a ton of money
-low interest rates leading to refinances that left people flush with cash

are you trying to tell us something?

you changed your mind about... dry cleaning young people during the pandemic?

Saved not saves
Typo

Anonymous wrote:All the money given put during the pandemic--ruined our economy. All the young people complaining about Boomers need to complain about:
-Stimulus checks
-unemployment payments that were higher than people's normal salaries
-lockdowns, so no commuting, dry cleaning, gad, childcare, etc, people saves a ton of money
-low interest rates leading to refinances that left people flush with cash

are you trying to tell us something?

you changed your mind about... dry cleaning young people during the pandemic?

All the money given put during the pandemic--ruined our economy. All the young people complaining about Boomers need to complain about:
-Stimulus checks
-unemployment payments that were higher than people's normal salaries
-lockdowns, so no commuting, dry cleaning, gad, childcare, etc, people saves a ton of money
-low interest rates leading to refinances that left people flush with cash