Anonymous wrote:I'm really tired of the pitbull enthusiasts who continue their struggle to convince the rest of the world that pitbulls aren't evil. I can empathize with your love of animals, but when you choose to accept and propagate misinformation that can get people killed out of some well-intended but fundamentally flawed campaign to exonerate these animals, you've gone too far. Pitbulls account for the vast majority of dog attacks and 2 of 3 dogbite deaths in the U.S. every year. If I ever see you telling my kids that pitbulls are safe, I am going to kick your ass.

+1 These are not safe animals. And I love dogs. To the pit-defenders, please just stop. Our family will never be the same after nearly losing our dog to an unprovoked pit attack. I’d be requesting a seat change and refund immediately.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is terrified of dogs. I would be extremely mad if this happened.

Even if the dog was so well behaved that you didn't even notice it was there?

We don't necessarily want to hear your children on the plane but, we all have to deal with things we don't want to deal with.

Yes, I would be extremely pissed if there was a pitbull seated near my child and would request a seat change. Especially since they no doubt totally lied about it being a service dog.

If it was so well behaved you didn't even notice it, then it very well could have been a service dog. Why do you assume they lied?

Come on. No reputable training organization trains pitbulls as service dogs. This is fake. We all know it.

Just by this quote here, I know you know absolutely nothing about service dogs.

Sure, go ahead and post something detailing how pitbulls have the temperament that reputable dog training organizations seek out. I’m sure it’s just some kind of quirk that every seeing eye dog and police dog you see is a lab, golden or german shephard.

One quick google search is all it takes, @sshat: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meet-the-first-official-pit-bull-police-dog-in-the-state-of-new-york/

lol. now look at the website of every single actual service dog org. ALL labs and goldens.

the "service dog" thing is such a farce. The vast majority of "service dogs" that I've seen are not trained and provide no service other than to meet dog owners selfish needs. I have two friends with "service dogs". One is a chihuahua (a blind one) and the other a beagle. Both have notes from doctors stating that the dog helps to calm the owners' anxiety and provides a needed medical service. Neither friend suffers from any serious mental issues.

So yeah, not buying the "service animal" BS

Anonymous wrote:Do you know how many pitbull and pit mixes there are in this country? 18 million.
Do you know how many fatal attacks there are? About 50 every year.
About two thirds of attacks target the owner or their family.

Pitbulls were bred to have enormous jaw strength and a tenacious temperament that will lead them to hang on. Those are facts. However, they are not more aggressive in their genetic make-up than other breeds.

Given the statistics, your anxiety is unreasonable. Fear of pitbulls in general is irrational.

- I'm a foster for a local rescue, specializing in newborn puppies. The hardest litter to train was a terrier mix. The easiest was a pit mix: they were docile and gentle.

This is silly. Why do you only count *fatal* attacks? An attack doesn't have to be fatal to be dangerous. I don't want to be bitten even if I survive. And I don't want my children bitten.
And yes, we lived with a pit bull growing up. I know better than to have one now. I do think that we need to do a better job of banning breeders and reducing the pit population.

Is this the sequel to that snake movie ?

Here is the link to the Epilepsy Foundation, a highly rated organization that provides education and advocacy for and about people with epilepsy on seizure dogs, a common type of service dogs.

You will note the first picture on this page is a pit mix.

https://www.epilepsy.com/recognition/seizure-dogs#What-is-a-seizure-dog?

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Anonymous wrote:The most dangerous animal on the plane is a human. What are you going to do if one attack you?

Right? If you're gonna give yourself anxiety about stuff you can't control, go hard and think of the probable threats, at least!

Mediocre white dudes kill way more people than "pit bulls" every year.

This is idiotic. A human can do serious damage to others, but even someone like Mike Tyson will eventually be overpowered by enough people.

There is no overcoming the jaw strength of a pitbull. There are only knives and guns in that case.

You are ignorant, and given how easy this is to disprove, I'm going to go with "willfully ignorant."

Enjoy your paranoia, but do try to keep your crazy to yourself. You sound unhinged.

Please educate me, and others.

You think a plane full of randoms can take down a trained fighter, but not a dog. Sorry, sweetie, you're beyond the limits of my help. See a professional.

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Even if it's a "couple dozen" people, they could easily stop a pitbull. A dozen people could probably stop a bear, a dog is no problem LOL. What a f***ing joke these people are.

Who is paying these trolls to post this garbage on forums?

Apparently OP has no appreciation of sarcasm either, because I guess she reported my post saying she was right to be alarmed because the dog could’ve easily taken control of the aircraft and crashed it into a school.

I mean, I was trying to be supportive, lolz.

I’m not op and I reported your “supportive” post joking about 9.11

Lolz

Dude, I went to war 3 times in 7 years over 9/11. I’ve earned the right to make jokes about it.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is terrified of dogs. I would be extremely mad if this happened.

Even if the dog was so well behaved that you didn't even notice it was there?

We don't necessarily want to hear your children on the plane but, we all have to deal with things we don't want to deal with.

Yes, I would be extremely pissed if there was a pitbull seated near my child and would request a seat change. Especially since they no doubt totally lied about it being a service dog.

If it was so well behaved you didn't even notice it, then it very well could have been a service dog. Why do you assume they lied?

Come on. No reputable training organization trains pitbulls as service dogs. This is fake. We all know it.

Just by this quote here, I know you know absolutely nothing about service dogs.

Sure, go ahead and post something detailing how pitbulls have the temperament that reputable dog training organizations seek out. I’m sure it’s just some kind of quirk that every seeing eye dog and police dog you see is a lab, golden or german shephard.

One quick google search is all it takes, @sshat: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meet-the-first-official-pit-bull-police-dog-in-the-state-of-new-york/

lol. now look at the website of every single actual service dog org. ALL labs and goldens.

Many service dogs are trained by either trainers who do this work privately, or by the handlers themselves. ADA is very clear that a dog trained by it's own handler is no less a service dog than a dog trained by an organization like Guide Dogs of America.

So, why do people end up training their own pit bulls rather than getting a lab through an organization? First of all, dogs trained by organizations are very expensive, and have long wait lists. People with disabilities often experience unemployment and underemployment in this country. Having a disability can also add extra expenses on top of that. So, people seek less expensive options. Service dog organizations can also have long wait lists, so people see faster options.

Why do they get pit bulls? Many people are committed to rescuing dogs that are otherwise at risk, and many of the dogs in need in this country are pits or pit mixes. Other people might choose a pit bull because they need a dog with a lot of strength for the size, for example for people who need dogs who help them with balance, or break falls, or pull wheelchairs. Pits are known as particularly loyal and affectionate dogs, and someone may want a dog that's particularly loyal and affectionate as a psychiatric service dog.

And some people get a dog thinking that it will be a pet, and then realize the dog is very good at something that can be turned into a service. So, they might notice that their dog behaves in a certain way right before they have seizures and want to train the dog to alert to seizures. Or they might notice that the dog instinctually gives a kind of pressure that is help for interrupting panic attacks, and train the dog to do that on cue.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is terrified of dogs. I would be extremely mad if this happened.

Even if the dog was so well behaved that you didn't even notice it was there?

We don't necessarily want to hear your children on the plane but, we all have to deal with things we don't want to deal with.

Yes, I would be extremely pissed if there was a pitbull seated near my child and would request a seat change. Especially since they no doubt totally lied about it being a service dog.

Out of curiosity, what if they couldn't accommodate a seat change?

I would ask Delta to be compensated.

LOL. You would not get anything. You'd get kicked off the plane if you continued making a fuss over a service dog sweetie. Stop being a bigot; why do you hate people with disabilities? Why are you encouraging others to discriminate against these folks? What's wrong with you, really?

Because they hate everyone who's at risk of an attack. I.e., literally everyone. So yeah. I do hate them. Their comfortable does not take priority over my actual safety or that of my child.

- not PP

WOW you really said you hate people with disabilities? And your child is one? What the actual F am I reading?

If they're going to use a pit bull as a "service dog" yes, I hate them. They're putting the public at risk when there are other options.

a person with a pit bull “service dog” on a plane almost certainly has a fake disability and a fake service dog. that makes me doubly wary of them, because they are untrustworthy and perfectly happy to lie, which makes it much more likely they have a poorly trained and dangerous dog.

Ha! How can you say it was "poorly trained" and "dangerous" when this dog was so quiet ( trained) and well behaved ( not dangerous) that the op didn't find out the dog was there until after the flight was over!

You have lost your cause. Give up on this particular dog. You can hate all you want but, this dog made an exemplary example of what 'pit bulls' are.

your logic is just sterling

meanwhile I’m waiting for the link to a reputable service dog training org that trains pitbulls. maybe it exists? prove me wrong.

Where did the op mention that this dog did something? Answer that troll

you get that a dog doesn’t have to bite in every instance in order to be dangerous, right? and for that matter, the problem is that I don’t want to have to worry about it at all. Especially since we know it’s likely not actually trained at all.

Your logic is flawed. Dog is trained. It was quiet and nothing happened. You know whst is dangerous? Your feeble brain.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is terrified of dogs. I would be extremely mad if this happened.

Even if the dog was so well behaved that you didn't even notice it was there?

We don't necessarily want to hear your children on the plane but, we all have to deal with things we don't want to deal with.

Yes, I would be extremely pissed if there was a pitbull seated near my child and would request a seat change. Especially since they no doubt totally lied about it being a service dog.

If it was so well behaved you didn't even notice it, then it very well could have been a service dog. Why do you assume they lied?

Come on. No reputable training organization trains pitbulls as service dogs. This is fake. We all know it.

Just by this quote here, I know you know absolutely nothing about service dogs.

Sure, go ahead and post something detailing how pitbulls have the temperament that reputable dog training organizations seek out. I’m sure it’s just some kind of quirk that every seeing eye dog and police dog you see is a lab, golden or german shephard.

One quick google search is all it takes, @sshat: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meet-the-first-official-pit-bull-police-dog-in-the-state-of-new-york/

lol. now look at the website of every single actual service dog org. ALL labs and goldens.

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Anonymous wrote:This post is ridiculous. Why would a dog suddenly have a psychotic break?

https://dogsandclogs.com/why-do-pit-bulls-snap/

https://www.lifewithdogs.tv/why-do-pit-bulls-snap/

Those two articles are about why pit bulls snap, meaning bite at the air as a warning. A dog who snaps in that sense doesn't make contact, they are trying to scare you away because they are overwhelmed by something.

A dog that snaps like that shouldn't be in the passenger cabin of a plane, or be working as a service dog. But the answer to what you do when a dog that isn't yours snaps at you, is "move away".

OP seems to be using the word "snaps" in the same way that the PP above used "psychotic break" to mean something different.

Well, if a dog “snaps” at you on a plane, you can’t move away.

Since OP and her child weren't seated in the same row as the dog, they could go back to their seat and get out of the dog's space.

The dog could reach us from under the seat.

No it could not. Unless it was the size of pp's yorkie, he's not getting under the seat

Have you never been on a plane or something?

Yes, have you ever seen a pitbull? They don't fit under the seat and could not "attack" OP from behind. She wouldn't have even noticed if they hadn't turned around when the plane landed. Clearly it wasn't a big deal for the entirety of the flight.

I wouldn’t want to be in a crowded aisle with a pitbull behind me.

Same. I genuinely feel like pit bull owners take pleasure in making people scared or uncomfortable.

When all it takes to do this is existing, sure. I take pleasure in existing and minding my own damn business. If that scares you, it's a you problem.

It just seems weird to think: I want a dog..I know, I’m going to buy that kind that’s always in the news for killing small children and is banned in many countries and cities.

I have to think the owners enjoy making people uncomfortable. It’s a personality type for sure!

Judging people minding their business is a personality type for sure! The dog owner in this (trollfic) story was simply existing on a plane, and OP didn't even know it for the entire flight. Your ridiculous position doesn't even hold for a troll thread, let alone reality.

People judging "pit bulls" and their owners like OP/this thread are the ones with the personality problems. Making baseless assumptions and projecting their fears and biases onto strangers who are simply existing peaceably sounds diagnosable.

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Anonymous wrote:This post is ridiculous. Why would a dog suddenly have a psychotic break?

https://dogsandclogs.com/why-do-pit-bulls-snap/

https://www.lifewithdogs.tv/why-do-pit-bulls-snap/

Those two articles are about why pit bulls snap, meaning bite at the air as a warning. A dog who snaps in that sense doesn't make contact, they are trying to scare you away because they are overwhelmed by something.

A dog that snaps like that shouldn't be in the passenger cabin of a plane, or be working as a service dog. But the answer to what you do when a dog that isn't yours snaps at you, is "move away".

OP seems to be using the word "snaps" in the same way that the PP above used "psychotic break" to mean something different.

Well, if a dog “snaps” at you on a plane, you can’t move away.

Since OP and her child weren't seated in the same row as the dog, they could go back to their seat and get out of the dog's space.

The dog could reach us from under the seat.

No it could not. Unless it was the size of pp's yorkie, he's not getting under the seat

Have you never been on a plane or something?

Yes, have you ever seen a pitbull? They don't fit under the seat and could not "attack" OP from behind. She wouldn't have even noticed if they hadn't turned around when the plane landed. Clearly it wasn't a big deal for the entirety of the flight.

I wouldn’t want to be in a crowded aisle with a pitbull behind me.

Same. I genuinely feel like pit bull owners take pleasure in making people scared or uncomfortable.

When all it takes to do this is existing, sure. I take pleasure in existing and minding my own damn business. If that scares you, it's a you problem.

It just seems weird to think: I want a dog..I know, I’m going to buy that kind that’s always in the news for killing small children and is banned in many countries and cities.

I have to think the owners enjoy making people uncomfortable. It’s a personality type for sure!

You... believe the news? About dogs? I barely believe the news about anything, especially not things that generate clickbait revenue.

If you want to drink the kool-aid, go ahead. And if it makes you more likely to leave me and mine alone, so much the better. I don't want to have to deal with your delusions; just let me mind my business in peace. Be as scared as you need to be to leave me alone!

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Anonymous wrote:This post is ridiculous. Why would a dog suddenly have a psychotic break?

https://dogsandclogs.com/why-do-pit-bulls-snap/

https://www.lifewithdogs.tv/why-do-pit-bulls-snap/

Those two articles are about why pit bulls snap, meaning bite at the air as a warning. A dog who snaps in that sense doesn't make contact, they are trying to scare you away because they are overwhelmed by something.

A dog that snaps like that shouldn't be in the passenger cabin of a plane, or be working as a service dog. But the answer to what you do when a dog that isn't yours snaps at you, is "move away".

OP seems to be using the word "snaps" in the same way that the PP above used "psychotic break" to mean something different.

Well, if a dog “snaps” at you on a plane, you can’t move away.

Since OP and her child weren't seated in the same row as the dog, they could go back to their seat and get out of the dog's space.

The dog could reach us from under the seat.

No it could not. Unless it was the size of pp's yorkie, he's not getting under the seat

Have you never been on a plane or something?

Yes, have you ever seen a pitbull? They don't fit under the seat and could not "attack" OP from behind. She wouldn't have even noticed if they hadn't turned around when the plane landed. Clearly it wasn't a big deal for the entirety of the flight.

I wouldn’t want to be in a crowded aisle with a pitbull behind me.

Same. I genuinely feel like pit bull owners take pleasure in making people scared or uncomfortable.

When all it takes to do this is existing, sure. I take pleasure in existing and minding my own damn business. If that scares you, it's a you problem.

It just seems weird to think: I want a dog..I know, I’m going to buy that kind that’s always in the news for killing small children and is banned in many countries and cities.

I have to think the owners enjoy making people uncomfortable. It’s a personality type for sure!

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Anonymous wrote:This post is ridiculous. Why would a dog suddenly have a psychotic break?

https://dogsandclogs.com/why-do-pit-bulls-snap/

https://www.lifewithdogs.tv/why-do-pit-bulls-snap/

Those two articles are about why pit bulls snap, meaning bite at the air as a warning. A dog who snaps in that sense doesn't make contact, they are trying to scare you away because they are overwhelmed by something.

A dog that snaps like that shouldn't be in the passenger cabin of a plane, or be working as a service dog. But the answer to what you do when a dog that isn't yours snaps at you, is "move away".

OP seems to be using the word "snaps" in the same way that the PP above used "psychotic break" to mean something different.

Well, if a dog “snaps” at you on a plane, you can’t move away.

Since OP and her child weren't seated in the same row as the dog, they could go back to their seat and get out of the dog's space.

The dog could reach us from under the seat.

No it could not. Unless it was the size of pp's yorkie, he's not getting under the seat

Have you never been on a plane or something?

Yes, have you ever seen a pitbull? They don't fit under the seat and could not "attack" OP from behind. She wouldn't have even noticed if they hadn't turned around when the plane landed. Clearly it wasn't a big deal for the entirety of the flight.

I wouldn’t want to be in a crowded aisle with a pitbull behind me.

Same. I genuinely feel like pit bull owners take pleasure in making people scared or uncomfortable.

When all it takes to do this is existing, sure. I take pleasure in existing and minding my own damn business. If that scares you, it's a you problem.

Existing so calmly and quietly that no one even knew you existed the entire time. Definitely something everyone should be complaining and making such a big fuss about

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Anonymous wrote:This post is ridiculous. Why would a dog suddenly have a psychotic break?

https://dogsandclogs.com/why-do-pit-bulls-snap/

https://www.lifewithdogs.tv/why-do-pit-bulls-snap/

Those two articles are about why pit bulls snap, meaning bite at the air as a warning. A dog who snaps in that sense doesn't make contact, they are trying to scare you away because they are overwhelmed by something.

A dog that snaps like that shouldn't be in the passenger cabin of a plane, or be working as a service dog. But the answer to what you do when a dog that isn't yours snaps at you, is "move away".

OP seems to be using the word "snaps" in the same way that the PP above used "psychotic break" to mean something different.

Well, if a dog “snaps” at you on a plane, you can’t move away.

Since OP and her child weren't seated in the same row as the dog, they could go back to their seat and get out of the dog's space.

The dog could reach us from under the seat.

No it could not. Unless it was the size of pp's yorkie, he's not getting under the seat

Have you never been on a plane or something?

Yes, have you ever seen a pitbull? They don't fit under the seat and could not "attack" OP from behind. She wouldn't have even noticed if they hadn't turned around when the plane landed. Clearly it wasn't a big deal for the entirety of the flight.

I wouldn’t want to be in a crowded aisle with a pitbull behind me.

Same. I genuinely feel like pit bull owners take pleasure in making people scared or uncomfortable.

When all it takes to do this is existing, sure. I take pleasure in existing and minding my own damn business. If that scares you, it's a you problem.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is terrified of dogs. I would be extremely mad if this happened.

Even if the dog was so well behaved that you didn't even notice it was there?

We don't necessarily want to hear your children on the plane but, we all have to deal with things we don't want to deal with.

Yes, I would be extremely pissed if there was a pitbull seated near my child and would request a seat change. Especially since they no doubt totally lied about it being a service dog.

If it was so well behaved you didn't even notice it, then it very well could have been a service dog. Why do you assume they lied?

Come on. No reputable training organization trains pitbulls as service dogs. This is fake. We all know it.

Just by this quote here, I know you know absolutely nothing about service dogs.

Sure, go ahead and post something detailing how pitbulls have the temperament that reputable dog training organizations seek out. I’m sure it’s just some kind of quirk that every seeing eye dog and police dog you see is a lab, golden or german shephard.

Lol! Why should I waste my time educating someone who wont even do a modicum of google research themselves? Again, more incorrect assumptions in this post that show you don't know anything about service dogs. It's quite funny, keep digging your hole.

annnd we all know you are 100% deluded and lying.

Aaaaand we all know you havent even googled "can pitbulls be service dogs"
Why is this site so full of trolls and idiots

yes I’m sure there’s tons of internet content claiming “pitties are the BEST service dogs, so sweeeet!!”

So you a) wont do any research and b) wont believe any research
Good to know. Why are you continuing to fight, argue and request education then?

But then they cry "You're so MEAN! You won't educate meeeeee!"

Pathetic whiners.