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Anonymous wrote:There was not a survey. There was an email address in 2023 that anti-LGBTQ people spammed nationwide ("we need to get the whole country involved in FCPS" was Jeff Hoffmann's quote). Even then it had a only a couple of thousand responses. The written comments were almost all non-responsive and just gross anti-LGBTQ hate. The total number of people who said that they were "FCPS Parents" was fewer than 40. There are around 360,000 parents in FCPS. 40/360000 is not 80%. Fake number, fake news. This junk piece of "data" needs to end here.

Raises hand. I am an FCPS parent and responded to the FLE survey about combining genders. I said there were many problems with the idea, including some specifics, and they shouldn't do it.

And they didn't make the change, as they had said they would.

A survey is a scientific instrument that determines information about a population. There was no such thing. There was a Google Form that certain candidates for school board worked to be spammed nationally. Sure, there were some responses from within the county. Most of the responses to the open-access Google Form that you are calling a survey came from outside Fairfax County.

Explain how spammers allegedly accessed the student’s and staff’s accounts because their responses, which overwhelmingly opposed the proposed changes, were done through the secured laptops issued by the county, and NO ONE other than the students and staff had accessed to their devices. The fact of the matter is that your theory falls apart because students and staff comprised 2/3 of the input, proving that there was not such outside intrusion.

You are making stuff up. The survey form was an open form on the FCPS website. Anyone and everyone could access it. And they did. Stop lying.

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Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

Maybe you should ask your children what they prefer? I asked my daughters - one that has gone through sex ed in elementary school, and one who gets it next year and both said they would feel more comfortable in a group of girls with a female instructor. My older daughter said boys were already such jerks about sex ed that it would be horrible if they had to go through it together. I trust my kids. You and the school board should, too.

The people pushing coed sex ed don't have kids in fcps so tgeir focus is entirely a political agenda, not anything kid centric.

Both my kids have had coed sex ed in church. Neither had a problem with it. There were great conversations in class, and they learned a lot.
Alexandria has been doing coed sex ed for years with no problems.
Maybe your kids are giving you the answer you want or maybe it is the sex ed part that they don't like, not the coed part. I didn't think I'd like olives, but it turns out I do--hypitheticals are.not fact.

Oh boy another election year post.

Again, why is the collective being made to suffer because of the few?

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Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

Maybe you should ask your children what they prefer? I asked my daughters - one that has gone through sex ed in elementary school, and one who gets it next year and both said they would feel more comfortable in a group of girls with a female instructor. My older daughter said boys were already such jerks about sex ed that it would be horrible if they had to go through it together. I trust my kids. You and the school board should, too.

As a mom to a 12yo girl I have mixed feelings about this. I too asked my daughter who similarly said the boys are jerks. In my ideal classroom and hers…the teachers would shut that BS down…but obviously parents have failed to do so and it is HARD for teachers to get boys on the whole to not mess it up for everyone. There is obviously a bigger conversation to be had here. I also have younger girls… you know who the kids I hear about are when the whole class has recess taken away? They are 100% of the time boys. No, not all boys, and that is why I believe this is a parenting issue more than a gender issue.

Umm... definitely a gender issue.

You can have 3 boys raised by the same 2 parents (like mine) with completely different personalities, behaviors and outcomes. I have one who probably lost a few recesses in his day, one who knew how to enjoy school and hang with the "cool" kids, being social without ever getting in trouble, and one whose only complaint from the teachers was that he needed to quit sneaking books during class, as they talked about what a joy he was to have in class. All with the exact same parents.

Would you like parents of boys to start shaming your parenting when one of your lovely girls transforms overnight to that 13 year old girl, completely disregarding nature's effects on gender, hormones, energy needs, learning styles, social peer pressures and centuries of socialization?

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Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

Maybe you should ask your children what they prefer? I asked my daughters - one that has gone through sex ed in elementary school, and one who gets it next year and both said they would feel more comfortable in a group of girls with a female instructor. My older daughter said boys were already such jerks about sex ed that it would be horrible if they had to go through it together. I trust my kids. You and the school board should, too.

As a mom to a 12yo girl I have mixed feelings about this. I too asked my daughter who similarly said the boys are jerks. In my ideal classroom and hers…the teachers would shut that BS down…but obviously parents have failed to do so and it is HARD for teachers to get boys on the whole to not mess it up for everyone. There is obviously a bigger conversation to be had here. I also have younger girls… you know who the kids I hear about are when the whole class has recess taken away? They are 100% of the time boys. No, not all boys, and that is why I believe this is a parenting issue more than a gender issue.

Yep

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

Maybe you should ask your children what they prefer? I asked my daughters - one that has gone through sex ed in elementary school, and one who gets it next year and both said they would feel more comfortable in a group of girls with a female instructor. My older daughter said boys were already such jerks about sex ed that it would be horrible if they had to go through it together. I trust my kids. You and the school board should, too.

As a mom to a 12yo girl I have mixed feelings about this. I too asked my daughter who similarly said the boys are jerks. In my ideal classroom and hers…the teachers would shut that BS down…but obviously parents have failed to do so and it is HARD for teachers to get boys on the whole to not mess it up for everyone. There is obviously a bigger conversation to be had here. I also have younger girls… you know who the kids I hear about are when the whole class has recess taken away? They are 100% of the time boys. No, not all boys, and that is why I believe this is a parenting issue more than a gender issue.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was not a survey. There was an email address in 2023 that anti-LGBTQ people spammed nationwide ("we need to get the whole country involved in FCPS" was Jeff Hoffmann's quote). Even then it had a only a couple of thousand responses. The written comments were almost all non-responsive and just gross anti-LGBTQ hate. The total number of people who said that they were "FCPS Parents" was fewer than 40. There are around 360,000 parents in FCPS. 40/360000 is not 80%. Fake number, fake news. This junk piece of "data" needs to end here.

Raises hand. I am an FCPS parent and responded to the FLE survey about combining genders. I said there were many problems with the idea, including some specifics, and they shouldn't do it.

And they didn't make the change, as they had said they would.

A survey is a scientific instrument that determines information about a population. There was no such thing. There was a Google Form that certain candidates for school board worked to be spammed nationally. Sure, there were some responses from within the county. Most of the responses to the open-access Google Form that you are calling a survey came from outside Fairfax County.

Explain how spammers allegedly accessed the student’s and staff’s accounts because their responses, which overwhelmingly opposed the proposed changes, were done through the secured laptops issued by the county, and NO ONE other than the students and staff had accessed to their devices. The fact of the matter is that your theory falls apart because students and staff comprised 2/3 of the input, proving that there was not such outside intrusion.

Anonymous wrote:Make it 'opt-in' solves the issue.

THIS^^^^

Pilot one "opt in" coed class per school with informed consent that the parents must sign that details the topics that will be taught in the grade.

Also include that the teacher will possibly be the opposite sex of the child, so gorls might be taught menstruation and nocturnal emissions from Mr. Frank the PE teacher.

Then keep track of how many parents opt their kids into the coed class.

I suspect the number of parents choosing coed over single sex/traditional gender will be close to zero.

Anonymous wrote:I heard that they are going to pilot the new program at low-income schools, with minimal parental involvement, to build a business case to expand it county wide without a vote, but rather, as an expansion of a current practice.

From whom have you heard that this will be done at "low-income schools?" That is a truly shocking thing if it is true.

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Anonymous wrote:There was not a survey. There was an email address in 2023 that anti-LGBTQ people spammed nationwide ("we need to get the whole country involved in FCPS" was Jeff Hoffmann's quote). Even then it had a only a couple of thousand responses. The written comments were almost all non-responsive and just gross anti-LGBTQ hate. The total number of people who said that they were "FCPS Parents" was fewer than 40. There are around 360,000 parents in FCPS. 40/360000 is not 80%. Fake number, fake news. This junk piece of "data" needs to end here.

Raises hand. I am an FCPS parent and responded to the FLE survey about combining genders. I said there were many problems with the idea, including some specifics, and they shouldn't do it.

And they didn't make the change, as they had said they would.

A survey is a scientific instrument that determines information about a population. There was no such thing. There was a Google Form that certain candidates for school board worked to be spammed nationally. Sure, there were some responses from within the county. Most of the responses to the open-access Google Form that you are calling a survey came from outside Fairfax County.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

In the survey last year, the kids had a far higher response against coed sex ed than the parents and teachers.

the kids do not want combined sex ed

We need to quit letting creeps and predators like this poster from getting so much control over our kids and public school.

What a nasty comment. You are also wrong. It was kids and parents who asked for this. The survey results were unfortunately overwhelmed by folks who didn't want FLE in school at all. There is no way to tell if the "students" who responded were actually students, so your statement is meaningless.

That’s not true at all. They also had focus groups in person and asked the kids - they and the kids didn’t want to be with the opposite gender for the lessons.

You are correct in that they had focus groups. Those focus groups showed that students overwhelmingly supported the idea of integrated Family Life Education. You are conflating an open-access Google Form that is incorrectly called a "survey" here with the focus groups. Your statement is true that there were focus groups. Your statement is exactly the opposite of what those focus groups found. Where is your information coming from?

Make it 'opt-in' solves the issue.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

Maybe you should ask your children what they prefer? I asked my daughters - one that has gone through sex ed in elementary school, and one who gets it next year and both said they would feel more comfortable in a group of girls with a female instructor. My older daughter said boys were already such jerks about sex ed that it would be horrible if they had to go through it together. I trust my kids. You and the school board should, too.

The people pushing coed sex ed don't have kids in fcps so tgeir focus is entirely a political agenda, not anything kid centric.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t an upcoming vote. They’ve decided to keep genders separate for next year thankfully.

It looks like they are combining genders for family life education in the pilot program.

The low income ESOL families have some of the most traditional families.

This is a twrrible idea.

If fcps is going to combine boys and girls for sex ed, it needs to be in the wealthiest bluest communities in northern Virginia, not the poor immigrant communities.

Pilot it in the wealthy neighborhoods with the greatest percentage of democrat votes. I am sure those neighborhoods will be thrilled to have boys and hirls together for 5th-8th grade sex ed.

OMG boys and girls learning about boobies together and boy parts. OMG OMG OMG OMG
OMB boys and girls learning how to talk to each other about sex omg omg omg

Kids are smarter than parents.

Maybe you should ask your children what they prefer? I asked my daughters - one that has gone through sex ed in elementary school, and one who gets it next year and both said they would feel more comfortable in a group of girls with a female instructor. My older daughter said boys were already such jerks about sex ed that it would be horrible if they had to go through it together. I trust my kids. You and the school board should, too.