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Anonymous wrote:My kids go to camp all summer. A mix of sleep away and day camps (typically outdoor adventure stuff, rock climbing, kayaking, rafting, wilderness survival).

I don't know. I ask myself. Would I want to stay at home and hang out with some friends and go to the pool or snorkel in the FL keys like my one kid is doing? Or go kayaking every day like another?

I mean I pick the fun vacation stuff.

My childhood summers consisted of generally spending all day inside because it was 115 degrees.

Wait so the parents that rationalized scheduling their kids every move all summer think their kid would do nothing otherwise, yet all these posters say how great their summers were and everything they did and how they enjoyed it with their own friends and family.

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Anonymous wrote:Secondhand smoke, pervasive racism, casual child abuse, institutionalized homophobia, incredibly bad music, shitty movies…

Yeah, the 80s rocked.

My lord get another hobby besides raining on peoples parades. This shit is getting old. Start another thread of you want to talk about how shitty the 80’s were.

We’re talking the truth about the 80s. I easily had five friends I know that were sexually assaulted. Romanticizing about a time and creating an image of it that is unrealistic makes no sense.

SAHM’s Didn’t even let their kids in the house. The kids who were allowed to be in the house watching TV all day were the ones with working moms because the SAHMs moms were like get out drink from the hose.

I knew not one person SA’d but my now 22yr old knows 4 from date rape drugs.

Get a grip

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Um how do you know PP? I didn’t know anyone SA’d either and had sleepovers or went every single weekend. That is such a weird statement to think that.

Did you learn nothing from Me Too? Only recently have women felt empowered to speak out. In the US, 81% of women and 43% of men have reported experiencing some form of sexual harassment and/or assault in their lifetime.

I learned that some women (not all) like to form revisionist versions of embarrassing or regretful decisions that they themselves made that they want to escape responsibility for.

You’re entitled to your opinion. But not alternative facts. Falsie reports for SA do not exceed false reports for other crimes. And indeed the apps are right that SA is very much under reported. This was widely documented and reported on over the last several years.

Anonymous wrote:My kids go to camp all summer. A mix of sleep away and day camps (typically outdoor adventure stuff, rock climbing, kayaking, rafting, wilderness survival).

I don't know. I ask myself. Would I want to stay at home and hang out with some friends and go to the pool or snorkel in the FL keys like my one kid is doing? Or go kayaking every day like another?

I mean I pick the fun vacation stuff.

My childhood summers consisted of generally spending all day inside because it was 115 degrees.

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Anonymous wrote:Secondhand smoke, pervasive racism, casual child abuse, institutionalized homophobia, incredibly bad music, shitty movies…

Yeah, the 80s rocked.

My lord get another hobby besides raining on peoples parades. This shit is getting old. Start another thread of you want to talk about how shitty the 80’s were.

We’re talking the truth about the 80s. I easily had five friends I know that were sexually assaulted. Romanticizing about a time and creating an image of it that is unrealistic makes no sense.

SAHM’s Didn’t even let their kids in the house. The kids who were allowed to be in the house watching TV all day were the ones with working moms because the SAHMs moms were like get out drink from the hose.

I knew not one person SA’d but my now 22yr old knows 4 from date rape drugs.

Get a grip

Yes, you did.

Um how do you know PP? I didn’t know anyone SA’d either and had sleepovers or went every single weekend. That is such a weird statement to think that.

Did you learn nothing from Me Too? Only recently have women felt empowered to speak out. In the US, 81% of women and 43% of men have reported experiencing some form of sexual harassment and/or assault in their lifetime.

I learned that some women (not all) like to form revisionist versions of embarrassing or regretful decisions that they themselves made that they want to escape responsibility for.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how many parents program every one of their kids days now. It’s so sad. We are lucky to live in a neighborhood where kids spend the summers home. Very old school

The difference seems to be all the mothers are working now, in the hey day they were at home. Can't leave the 8yr olds home alone, so, off to camp they go!

Many of the moms in my neighborhood worked. We were the latch key kids before there were summer camp offerings. I started coming home to an empty house at nine and was on my own all summer. There were definitely downsides to having so much freedom but we became very resilient and very independent.

There are no latch key kids now. They are at camp.

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Anonymous wrote:Secondhand smoke, pervasive racism, casual child abuse, institutionalized homophobia, incredibly bad music, shitty movies…

Yeah, the 80s rocked.

My lord get another hobby besides raining on peoples parades. This shit is getting old. Start another thread of you want to talk about how shitty the 80’s were.

We’re talking the truth about the 80s. I easily had five friends I know that were sexually assaulted. Romanticizing about a time and creating an image of it that is unrealistic makes no sense.

SAHM’s Didn’t even let their kids in the house. The kids who were allowed to be in the house watching TV all day were the ones with working moms because the SAHMs moms were like get out drink from the hose.

I knew not one person SA’d but my now 22yr old knows 4 from date rape drugs.

Get a grip

Yes, you did.

Um how do you know PP? I didn’t know anyone SA’d either and had sleepovers or went every single weekend. That is such a weird statement to think that.

Did you learn nothing from Me Too? Only recently have women felt empowered to speak out. In the US, 81% of women and 43% of men have reported experiencing some form of sexual harassment and/or assault in their lifetime.

I learned that some women (not all) like to form revisionist versions of embarrassing or regretful decisions that they themselves made that they want to escape responsibility for.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how many parents program every one of their kids days now. It’s so sad. We are lucky to live in a neighborhood where kids spend the summers home. Very old school

The difference seems to be all the mothers are working now, in the hey day they were at home. Can't leave the 8yr olds home alone, so, off to camp they go!

My mom was a SAHM and I went to 8 weeks of day camp every single summer from the time I was four years old, until I was 14 and old enough to work. I was not going to camp to use it as a daycare.

Ugh that sucks. I guess she hated parenting you

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how many parents program every one of their kids days now. It’s so sad. We are lucky to live in a neighborhood where kids spend the summers home. Very old school

The difference seems to be all the mothers are working now, in the hey day they were at home. Can't leave the 8yr olds home alone, so, off to camp they go!

My mom was a SAHM and I went to 8 weeks of day camp every single summer from the time I was four years old, until I was 14 and old enough to work. I was not going to camp to use it as a daycare.

Oh ok. You're right. Kids aren't programmed today because their parents are working. They are all SAHMs who just can't deal. Glad you cleared that up.

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Anonymous wrote:Secondhand smoke, pervasive racism, casual child abuse, institutionalized homophobia, incredibly bad music, shitty movies…

Yeah, the 80s rocked.

My lord get another hobby besides raining on peoples parades. This shit is getting old. Start another thread of you want to talk about how shitty the 80’s were.

We’re talking the truth about the 80s. I easily had five friends I know that were sexually assaulted. Romanticizing about a time and creating an image of it that is unrealistic makes no sense.

SAHM’s Didn’t even let their kids in the house. The kids who were allowed to be in the house watching TV all day were the ones with working moms because the SAHMs moms were like get out drink from the hose.

I knew not one person SA’d but my now 22yr old knows 4 from date rape drugs.

Get a grip

Yes, you did.

Um how do you know PP? I didn’t know anyone SA’d either and had sleepovers or went every single weekend. That is such a weird statement to think that.

Did you learn nothing from Me Too? Only recently have women felt empowered to speak out. In the US, 81% of women and 43% of men have reported experiencing some form of sexual harassment and/or assault in their lifetime.

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Anonymous wrote:We didn't go to camp except for day camps here or there, but nearly all my summer days until I could work were spent at the pool from morning to night. I'd walk there from my house, meet up with my friends, and spend the entire day swimming and eating from the snack bar. Our pool would have teen nights and we'd hang out for that too and then walk home...in the dark! If I wasn't at the pool, I would be out roaming the neighborhood with friends or playing Nintendo at someone's house or sunbathing (no sunscreen!) and reading my seventeen magazines in the backyard. Both of my parents worked and I had older siblings, so I was on my own most of time. My favorite memory of summer was being out all day and coming back to an ice-cold air conditioned house and drinking a cold diet sprite (since that was the only soda we were allowed to have), turning on Oprah and chilling out in front of the tv. loved those times! now my kids are programmed all summer long at overnight camps and other activities.

Programmed summers are super depressing. I hope the next generation changes that

Until I was 10 I had "unprogrammed" summers... day camps some weeks, a lot of staying at home, wishing my friends would come home from vacations, not talking to most people I had gone to school with, begging my mother to take us to the shitty town beach. no sports, no nothing.

After 10, I went to 8 week summer camp, had tons of friend, went on adventures, camped in the wilderness for days, did ropes courses, rode horses, learned to sail and basically developed all of my recreational interests I had as an adult.

I would rather make sure my kids have a variety of camps and activities to go to—with healthy input from them on what it is, and careful thought to make sure there's lots of interactions with their friends—than having them sit at home and watch youtube shorts, which is what unstructured summer is now.

All the parents that ship their kids off to camp and wipe their hands ALWAYS rationalize their kids would just stare at screens. It just seems like you aren’t good parents and rather not parent your kids or let them have great summers with their own friends at home.

Paying a camp to find friends for your kids is so strange. And all the counselors care about is getting laid. It’s not like they really like working with your kids.

I sent my one of my kids to Camp Hidden Meadows after her best friend begged and they talked about counting used condoms in the woods for fun.

So you weren’t a good enough parent to say no to camp? You know - the place where lazy parents send the kids they don’t love and don’t want to parent? You didn’t want them to have fun with their friends at home that week? Seems like you can’t live up to your own standards.

I think there is a big difference between a week or two of camp vs shipping your kid off to camp for the entire summer. It’s not for me but I wouldn’t send my kids to boarding school either. To each their own.

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Anonymous wrote:Secondhand smoke, pervasive racism, casual child abuse, institutionalized homophobia, incredibly bad music, shitty movies…

Yeah, the 80s rocked.

My lord get another hobby besides raining on peoples parades. This shit is getting old. Start another thread of you want to talk about how shitty the 80’s were.

We’re talking the truth about the 80s. I easily had five friends I know that were sexually assaulted. Romanticizing about a time and creating an image of it that is unrealistic makes no sense.

SAHM’s Didn’t even let their kids in the house. The kids who were allowed to be in the house watching TV all day were the ones with working moms because the SAHMs moms were like get out drink from the hose.

I knew not one person SA’d but my now 22yr old knows 4 from date rape drugs.

Get a grip

Yes, you did.

Um how do you know PP? I didn’t know anyone SA’d either and had sleepovers or went every single weekend. That is such a weird statement to think that.