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Post 05/17/2024 15:31     Subject: Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

Justice Alito, that neutral caller of balls and strikes, gives an exclusive response to Fox News.

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Post 05/17/2024 14:28     Subject: Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

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Anonymous wrote:He has a right to free speech because, get this, Supreme Court justices are US citizens.

It’s his private property.


Must be why he blamed it on his wife.

Just like Menendez. I guess blaming the wife is the one thing the right and left can agree on.


Why is it so hard to believe the wife turned the flag upside down?


Why is it so hard to believe that he knows this is a terrible look and he's throwing her under the bus?



This. I was married to a guy in a public role/job that came with a ton of rules and I was well aware that I needed to be mindful of them too. Optics matter. Professionalism matters.


So, not allowed to disagree publicly with your husband?


My husband was too professional to even express a political opinion. As it should be. He didn’t discuss politics with anyone. His own children didn’t even know where he stood politically until he retired. I shared my opinions with my friends but would never publicly take a position, no. I didn’t volunteer on campaigns until he retired. I can’t emphasize this enough but that is how it should be for roles that are non partisan and it’s sad that this seems to shock people.


That is your choice and it is not shocking at all. Mrs. Alito was allowed to make a different choice.

Do you have the same criticism for Judge Merchant donating to Biden?


The fact that you think we have choices is more evidence that you don’t understand anything we’re saying about rules, ethics, and professional conduct. Yes, it was her choice to create bad optics that make her husband look unethical and unprofessional. I mean, everyone can choose to violate rules, norms, and professional conduct, okay. That’s not a pass. But it was probably him and let’s face it, this is not the only evidence of his lack of integrity and ethics.


NYT and CNN raising this issue now is all about getting Alito to recuse for the upcoming J6 cases. I’m pointing out the stunning hypocrisy of people being OK with judge Merchan not recusing and the stunning hypocrisy of those who [/b]think the little woman should just keep her opinions to herself.
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We can explain it to you but we can’t make you understand it. Spouses of people in non-partisan leadership positions, regardless of their sex or gender, should not be this dumb about professional conduct and yes, they CAN do things that get the person fired.

But let’s stop pretending she did it alone. How about we stop believing it’s always the woman’s fault? He’s not just unethical, he’s a coward.


You don’t have to keep “explaining” things to people who understand you perfectly well. They just disagree with you.


Nope. You’re trying to make it a “little woman” issue and it’s not. You’re being dishonest.


I believe Alito. That does not make me dishonest.


But it does make you delusional.


I’m pretty sure that the inability to deal with people who disagree with you is a symptom of a personality disorder.


You are not entitled to your own facts.


What in the world are you talking about? I am not making up any facts. Justice Alito says his wife put it up. You say he’s lying. My opinion is that I believe him. To suggest that his wife couldn’t have done that is to deny her agency. That’s a bit sexist, don’t you think?


You think he simply never saw the front of his house in the time it was up?! Who cares who put it up - this gdforsaken flag was up at a Sup Ct justice's house. That's INSANE.


Mrs. Alito is not a Supreme Court justice. Maybe he respects her and doesn’t try to control her the way you would like?


“As numerous legal ethics experts told the New York Times, like other federal judges, Supreme Court justices should avoid any appearance of partisanship or bias that would lead to Americans questioning their judgment.”
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Post 05/17/2024 14:25     Subject: Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

I have difficulty believing his wife did this alone. When I was in HS, seniors were responsible for raising and lowering US Flag every day and it took two people. Those flags are heavy and the grommets only on the correct edge to raise flag.

Liar, liar, pants on fire!
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Post 05/17/2024 14:25     Subject: Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

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Anonymous wrote:"I had no involvement whatsoever in the flying of the flag," Alito told the Times in an emailed statement. "It was briefly placed by Mrs. Alito in response to a neighbor’s use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-justice-alitos-home-flew-us-flag-upside-down-following-jan-6-nyt/ar-BB1mwSIQ?ocid=BingNewsSerp

His wife probably hung it that way accidentally. Why is this even a story in 2024??



Really?

Alito is 74. He married his wife in 1985 when she was a law librarian. Will estimate that she is 62 at a minimum. I'm 62. I'm pretty progressive. I also learned about how to hang a flag when I was a Girl Scout at 10 as well as how not to. Even if Mrs. Alito wasn't a Scout, I can't imagine that she made it through the '60s and '70s w/o hearing about flag etiquette. Seriously.

DH was a political appointee at one point early in his career. You better believe that if I ran a flag up the pole and realized it was upside down, I would have brought that flag down stat lest there be any repercussions for a perceived unpatriotic act at the home of a political appointee.

And who runs the flag up the pole without then looking at it once its at the top - no one.

The fact that this flag was up for days tells you everything that we need to know about how Alito views the ethics of his job.



And Justice A-hole served in the military for years.


It’s not just his house.


So your spouse installs swastika on your lawn, and when it's suggested this looks bad for you you're like, "I cannot *possibly* be responsible for the swastikas that my spouse has installed on my lawn. And I have a job that requires me to have excellent judgment! Did I mention people have to trust my excellent judgment for my job, one of the most important jobs in the country, to have any legitimacy. What's the problem?


The whole line of defense of "his wife is free to do whatever she wants" is absolutely absurd. If I hung up a sh!tty looking decoration in front of our house, my spouse would kindly tell me to take it down...and vice versa. This "control-based" defense is so disingenuous.
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Post 05/17/2024 14:22     Subject: Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

Anonymous wrote:Alito absolutely has the right to fly his flag upside down and support the steal. He also should recuse himself from any legal cases before him on this issue since he already has a judgement on the matter. It’s only ethical.


The right? Sure. Does this demonstrate bats*** levels of bad judgment? Yes it does!

I'd say this is pretty clear evidence this person does not have the mental wherewithal to be in this job. Age related? Maybe. Whatever it is, this is nuts he could think it's appropriate or ok.

And lol at the "it's not just his house" thing. Sure, yes, not just his house. But ALSO his house. It reflects him.
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Post 05/17/2024 14:20     Subject: Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

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Anonymous wrote:"I had no involvement whatsoever in the flying of the flag," Alito told the Times in an emailed statement. "It was briefly placed by Mrs. Alito in response to a neighbor’s use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-justice-alitos-home-flew-us-flag-upside-down-following-jan-6-nyt/ar-BB1mwSIQ?ocid=BingNewsSerp

His wife probably hung it that way accidentally. Why is this even a story in 2024??



Really?

Alito is 74. He married his wife in 1985 when she was a law librarian. Will estimate that she is 62 at a minimum. I'm 62. I'm pretty progressive. I also learned about how to hang a flag when I was a Girl Scout at 10 as well as how not to. Even if Mrs. Alito wasn't a Scout, I can't imagine that she made it through the '60s and '70s w/o hearing about flag etiquette. Seriously.

DH was a political appointee at one point early in his career. You better believe that if I ran a flag up the pole and realized it was upside down, I would have brought that flag down stat lest there be any repercussions for a perceived unpatriotic act at the home of a political appointee.

And who runs the flag up the pole without then looking at it once its at the top - no one.

The fact that this flag was up for days tells you everything that we need to know about how Alito views the ethics of his job.



And Justice A-hole served in the military for years.


It’s not just his house.


So your spouse installs swastika on your lawn, and when it's suggested this looks bad for you you're like, "I cannot *possibly* be responsible for the swastikas that my spouse has installed on my lawn. And I have a job that requires me to have excellent judgment! Did I mention people have to trust my excellent judgment for my job, one of the most important jobs in the country, to have any legitimacy. What's the problem?
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Post 05/17/2024 14:20     Subject: Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

Anonymous wrote:https://dnyuz.com/2024/05/16/at-justice-alitos-house-a-stop-the-steal-symbol-on-display/

How are Alito and Thomas still on the court?


Life time appointment and John Roberts is the most ineffective Chief Justice of all time. It is my personal hope that Bush 41 and Bush 43 rot in Hell for their SC appointments of these two.
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Post 05/17/2024 14:12     Subject: Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason this is in the news today when it happened 3+ years ago is to trash Alito before the ruling comes out on Trump’s immunity.


And? He deserves to be absolutely trashed over this. It shouldn’t have taken this long for this act to have been revealed.


Alito should be impeached for actions leading to a “loss in public trust”
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Post 05/17/2024 14:10     Subject: Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

Anonymous wrote:The only reason this is in the news today when it happened 3+ years ago is to trash Alito before the ruling comes out on Trump’s immunity.


And? He deserves to be absolutely trashed over this. It shouldn’t have taken this long for this act to have been revealed.
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Post 05/17/2024 13:49     Subject: Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

The only reason this is in the news today when it happened 3+ years ago is to trash Alito before the ruling comes out on Trump’s immunity.
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Post 05/17/2024 13:35     Subject: Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

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Anonymous wrote:"I had no involvement whatsoever in the flying of the flag," Alito told the Times in an emailed statement. "It was briefly placed by Mrs. Alito in response to a neighbor’s use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-justice-alitos-home-flew-us-flag-upside-down-following-jan-6-nyt/ar-BB1mwSIQ?ocid=BingNewsSerp

His wife probably hung it that way accidentally. Why is this even a story in 2024??



Then why did Alito claim it was in response to the neighbor?


It was purposely hung upside down but reading comprehension probably isn’t the strong suit of anyone defending this.
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Post 05/17/2024 13:18     Subject: Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

Anonymous wrote:"I had no involvement whatsoever in the flying of the flag," Alito told the Times in an emailed statement. "It was briefly placed by Mrs. Alito in response to a neighbor’s use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-justice-alitos-home-flew-us-flag-upside-down-following-jan-6-nyt/ar-BB1mwSIQ?ocid=BingNewsSerp

His wife probably hung it that way accidentally. Why is this even a story in 2024??



Then why did Alito claim it was in response to the neighbor?
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Post 05/17/2024 13:03     Subject: Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

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Anonymous wrote:He has a right to free speech because, get this, Supreme Court justices are US citizens.

It’s his private property.


Must be why he blamed it on his wife.

Just like Menendez. I guess blaming the wife is the one thing the right and left can agree on.


Why is it so hard to believe the wife turned the flag upside down?


Why is it so hard to believe that he knows this is a terrible look and he's throwing her under the bus?



This. I was married to a guy in a public role/job that came with a ton of rules and I was well aware that I needed to be mindful of them too. Optics matter. Professionalism matters.


So, not allowed to disagree publicly with your husband?


My husband was too professional to even express a political opinion. As it should be. He didn’t discuss politics with anyone. His own children didn’t even know where he stood politically until he retired. I shared my opinions with my friends but would never publicly take a position, no. I didn’t volunteer on campaigns until he retired. I can’t emphasize this enough but that is how it should be for roles that are non partisan and it’s sad that this seems to shock people.


That is your choice and it is not shocking at all. Mrs. Alito was allowed to make a different choice.

Do you have the same criticism for Judge Merchant donating to Biden?


You’re equating a campaign donation with an insurrectionist flag? How are you okay with what you wrote?


There is no insurrection flag. It was the US flag flown upside down.

Which is a symbol of insurrectionists.


It’s also been used by Vietnam war protesters, progressives fighting the overturn of Roe vs Wade, BLM supporters. It’s a symbol of distress or rebellion against the government. Either way, it’s not some separate flag and words matter.

Who was flying the flag in this manner in January 2021? “Progressives fighting the overturn of Roe vs Wade”?


Not sure how that is relevant to Justice Alito's behavior. But what his behavour shows is how much of a partisan hack he is. Not worthy of any respect. Just a smart political sleezeball.


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Just another corrupt hack. No wonder the Rs love him.
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Post 05/17/2024 12:59     Subject: Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

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Anonymous wrote:He has a right to free speech because, get this, Supreme Court justices are US citizens.

It’s his private property.


Must be why he blamed it on his wife.

Just like Menendez. I guess blaming the wife is the one thing the right and left can agree on.


Why is it so hard to believe the wife turned the flag upside down?


Why is it so hard to believe that he knows this is a terrible look and he's throwing her under the bus?



This. I was married to a guy in a public role/job that came with a ton of rules and I was well aware that I needed to be mindful of them too. Optics matter. Professionalism matters.


So, not allowed to disagree publicly with your husband?


My husband was too professional to even express a political opinion. As it should be. He didn’t discuss politics with anyone. His own children didn’t even know where he stood politically until he retired. I shared my opinions with my friends but would never publicly take a position, no. I didn’t volunteer on campaigns until he retired. I can’t emphasize this enough but that is how it should be for roles that are non partisan and it’s sad that this seems to shock people.


That is your choice and it is not shocking at all. Mrs. Alito was allowed to make a different choice.

Do you have the same criticism for Judge Merchant donating to Biden?


The fact that you think we have choices is more evidence that you don’t understand anything we’re saying about rules, ethics, and professional conduct. Yes, it was her choice to create bad optics that make her husband look unethical and unprofessional. I mean, everyone can choose to violate rules, norms, and professional conduct, okay. That’s not a pass. But it was probably him and let’s face it, this is not the only evidence of his lack of integrity and ethics.


NYT and CNN raising this issue now is all about getting Alito to recuse for the upcoming J6 cases. I’m pointing out the stunning hypocrisy of people being OK with judge Merchan not recusing and the stunning hypocrisy of those who [/b]think the little woman should just keep her opinions to herself.
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We can explain it to you but we can’t make you understand it. Spouses of people in non-partisan leadership positions, regardless of their sex or gender, should not be this dumb about professional conduct and yes, they CAN do things that get the person fired.

But let’s stop pretending she did it alone. How about we stop believing it’s always the woman’s fault? He’s not just unethical, he’s a coward.


You don’t have to keep “explaining” things to people who understand you perfectly well. They just disagree with you.


Nope. You’re trying to make it a “little woman” issue and it’s not. You’re being dishonest.


I believe Alito. That does not make me dishonest.


But it does make you delusional.


I’m pretty sure that the inability to deal with people who disagree with you is a symptom of a personality disorder.


You are not entitled to your own facts.


What in the world are you talking about? I am not making up any facts. Justice Alito says his wife put it up. You say he’s lying. My opinion is that I believe him. To suggest that his wife couldn’t have done that is to deny her agency. That’s a bit sexist, don’t you think?


You think he simply never saw the front of his house in the time it was up?! Who cares who put it up - this gdforsaken flag was up at a Sup Ct justice's house. That's INSANE.


Mrs. Alito is not a Supreme Court justice. Maybe he respects her and doesn’t try to control her the way you would like?

And many of us have explained how spouses of governmental employees have had to follow certain rules of behavior. If Mr and Mrs Alito want to support the insurrectionists, then he needs to step down.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2024 12:58     Subject: Re:Alito displayed a “stop the steal” symbol at his home

Once again the MAGAs supporting this are conflating what is a law (with fines or imprisonment as a repercussion) and what is unethical and inappropriate behavior for an employee of the U.S. government in a non partisan job.

Whether or not the behavior was illegal is irrelevant.

And yes, the little woman or man of the house has to get on board lest the appearance of impropriety attach itself to the spouse employed by the U.S. government.

I know Trump is a big fan of doing whatever he wants and arguing that it’s not illegal, but the success of our country to date has rested on people acting for the common good and following norms and acting civilly.