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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we should go back to male and female colleges for some things. Would that help at all with the date rapes and so forth? Men and women are very immature the first time they are away from mom and dad. Maybe there should be fewer meetups between them.

All male colleges used to be allowed but women just couldn’t stand it that “all male spaces” existed so now we can’t have nice things any more.

There is no rule against all male colleges. They are still “allowed.” Any private SLAC can be single sex.

Yeah that’s why they don’t exist. 🙄

If you look at the common data sets you will see that more women apply. So it isn’t as if 100 women apply and 100 men apply but we end up with 60 women and 40 men admitted.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD wants school that skews male. You also have to look at str8/gay ratio to see your dating options.

They are all STEM schools...RIT, RPI, etc. that are like 75% male and 25% female.

LOL yeah and WPI--she is interested, now how social are these guys? we have to visit. She is tired of the girl drama at her public school and kind of over it.I am glad she has a good foundation with same sex friendships--very important part of the maturation process.

Engineers sometimes skew a bit more towards introversion, but that is not the same as being anti-social. Also, Any E School will be academically hard, so there will not as much mid-week partying.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a real problem without an easy solution, and the gender imbalance is going to cause a lot of consequences through young women’s lives. But in the short term, colleges need to find ways to shrink the gam. Even if it means admitting boys with lower grades and qualifications and offering generous financial aid.

So you are suggesting preferential admissions and financial support for young men, even though men have historically had greater academic and economic opportunity than women, in the name of achieving gender balance? Seriously?

Last I checked, today's men haven't inherited those advantages. If they did, the ratio wouldn't be what it is.

Just because the temperature used to be too hot doesn't mean you should keep the AC on even when it gets too cold.

Except men are still earning far more despite earning less education.

Not when controlling for career choice, work hours, and experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we should go back to male and female colleges for some things. Would that help at all with the date rapes and so forth? Men and women are very immature the first time they are away from mom and dad. Maybe there should be fewer meetups between them.

All male colleges used to be allowed but women just couldn’t stand it that “all male spaces” existed so now we can’t have nice things any more.

Is this satire? Most straight guys (and girls) don’t want to go to a single sex college, that’s why there aren’t any good men’s colleges. There are excellent women’s colleges like Wellesley and Smith. But lower tier colleges like Sweet Briar struggle. Feel free to send your boy (who is afraid of girls) to Hampton-Sydney.

I have boys in college so can't really contribute here. Except to observe they both had serious girlfriends by the end of freshman year. Which seems a little early but I get the sense that many young women are looking for partners right from the get-go in college. And that probably is a reflection of supply and demand. It also seems pretty common for students to settle into long term relationships early in college rather wait until grad school, which was more the norm in my generation. This is at very selective colleges if that makes any difference. It might vary elsewhere. But I found it notable.

In 2021, a Pew survey found men were more likely than women to say they didn’t go to college because they just didn’t want to or because they didn’t feel they needed more education for the type of job they wanted. Given the need for and gender imbalance in the trades, I am surprised it hasn't been this way longer. Maybe we have more women racking up needless debt for degrees they won't use either?

What’s weird about the gender imbalance in colleges is that the alumni of most of these were either 50% male or majority male for a looooong time.

You’d think that the male child of a college graduate would be MORE likely to qualify and attend college.

So what we likely have is attrition among the sons of college graduates. Why is that happening?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we should go back to male and female colleges for some things. Would that help at all with the date rapes and so forth? Men and women are very immature the first time they are away from mom and dad. Maybe there should be fewer meetups between them.

All male colleges used to be allowed but women just couldn’t stand it that “all male spaces” existed so now we can’t have nice things any more.

There is no rule against all male colleges. They are still “allowed.” Any private SLAC can be single sex.

Exactly. You can have your all-male space, but you can’t nail up a “No Girls Allowed” sign on your clubhouse and expect to pay for it with my tax dollars.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we should go back to male and female colleges for some things. Would that help at all with the date rapes and so forth? Men and women are very immature the first time they are away from mom and dad. Maybe there should be fewer meetups between them.

All male colleges used to be allowed but women just couldn’t stand it that “all male spaces” existed so now we can’t have nice things any more.

There is no rule against all male colleges. They are still “allowed.” Any private SLAC can be single sex.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe we should go back to male and female colleges for some things. Would that help at all with the date rapes and so forth? Men and women are very immature the first time they are away from mom and dad. Maybe there should be fewer meetups between them.

All male colleges used to be allowed but women just couldn’t stand it that “all male spaces” existed so now we can’t have nice things any more.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a real problem without an easy solution, and the gender imbalance is going to cause a lot of consequences through young women’s lives. But in the short term, colleges need to find ways to shrink the gam. Even if it means admitting boys with lower grades and qualifications and offering generous financial aid.

So you are suggesting preferential admissions and financial support for young men, even though men have historically had greater academic and economic opportunity than women, in the name of achieving gender balance? Seriously?

Last I checked, today's men haven't inherited those advantages. If they did, the ratio wouldn't be what it is.

Just because the temperature used to be too hot doesn't mean you should keep the AC on even when it gets too cold.

100%

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Anonymous wrote:Parents need to bar their boys from screens, laziness, and junk food.

Boys should be working out, working hard, playing outside, and studying. It’s our own fault that so many boys suck. Say no to screens and don’t let your boy be a loser.

I agree this is the issue far more than political ideologies. Boys need to be taught to have a strong work ethic and digital distractions need to be quashed early and often. Also, stop privileging travel sports above academics. I know too many boys who feel like their sports commitments matter far more than academics. Um, no.

I don't see how a strong work ethic would increase college enrollment. If anything it might increase the desire to start working hard to earn a living via trades or business ASAP rather than delaying things another 4 years.

I think so too.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD wants school that skews male. You also have to look at str8/gay ratio to see your dating options.

They are all STEM schools...RIT, RPI, etc. that are like 75% male and 25% female.

LOL yeah and WPI--she is interested, now how social are these guys? we have to visit. She is tired of the girl drama at her public school and kind of over it.I am glad she has a good foundation with same sex friendships--very important part of the maturation process.

My son is at WPI. Majority of the male friends I have met of his (ok small sample, maybe 5 or 6?) are all pretty normal, social guys. He isn't really "hang out" type buddies with his 4 roommates but as he said, no one is ever here since we are all so busy---meaning, they aren't just sitting there playing video games alone...Living with one female and one male friend in a house next year. WPI has trended towards 70-30, was 60-40 when he applied but they lost a private donor who was giving big scholarships to more female students and helping the ratio a bit.

I have a kid at WPI too, and they are also very happy with the social life. Lots of friends of verious genders, plenty to do. Very busy. The 7-week terms don't leave a lot of free time, but they are a smart group of students, so they manage to balance and squeeze a lot into a term.

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Anonymous wrote:men who went to college before were middle class, now men who go to college think they are "it", much harder for women to find quality men

its really unfair, no matter what happens guy end up with the advantage--before in jobs and maybe even now, but definitely now in dating

Wait, wtf? Guys clearly do not have an advantage in applying to college (that’s why they’re in the minority) which automatically means a disadvantage in applying to quality jobs but you’re moaning that men have all the advantages? 🙄

They're in the minority because fewer are applying. They're opting to not go to college. They're generally getting in at higher rates.

What's your evidence for the claim that men get in at higher rates (controlling for high school achievement, of course)

And how many students who want to go to college don't get admitted anywhere? There is always a seat somewhere.