I posted previously and I am actually thinking OP must be a troll with the Duke revelation. There is too much weirdness since the nephew could theoretically just get a finance job via the Duke network.

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are delusional if you believe a big stable job is squarely in the hands of op

No one thinks a big stable job is squarely in the hands of OP.

That's part of why people think OP is being so absurd. At best, her DH can pass around a resume, get him a foot in the door job. But that's the foot in the door job that the nephew needs. That's the kind of nepotism that is common. No one is taking a community college D-student and getting them a job at McKinsey. But people do, all the time, look out for family and friends, pass along resumes, do 15 minute networking chats, ask around their organizations, ask around their networks, set up a risk-free internship, etc. This is the kind of nepotism that is omnipresent. It's barely nepotism. It's just... how jobs and hiring works.

Some of you are delusional if you believe a big stable job is squarely in the hands of op

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Anonymous wrote:My DS recently received a job offer from an investment company. He was selected over five qualified Ivy grads, according to his boss, because he is a D1 athlete at a state school, think of Purdue or Indiana, and was sponsored by an EVP of the company who also played the same sport at the same school as DS. Would he get that job without connections? Of course NOT.

What is his GPA? He had no relevant training or summer internships? And OP's niece or nephew is not a Division 1 Big Ten varsity athlete.

GPA: 2.9

Major: business administration

Summer internships: He did have an internship, an 11-week program, in the summer of his sophomore and junior year with two different investment firms from an alumni in the athletic department. They also gave him six weeks off to train for his sports so that he could get ready for fall season, but he still got paid for those six weeks that he didn't work. He got those internships through connections

So he plays what seems like a varsity sports and is majoring in… what economics? Pretty sure Duke doesn’t have an undergrad business major.

Let me guess. His tuition is dependent on playing the sport, I’m guessing the MC BIL can’t afford full freight tuition.

If you don’t see how far your nephew has come, I really want to hear your story of academic and career success, since you also came from less than?

PP with a student-athlete son is not OP.

Anonymous wrote:Life isn’t always fair but envy will get you nowhere. All that matters is that you accept where you are, figure out where you want to be, and then do what you can, today and everyday, to hold your head high and keep moving forward.

That’s not all that matters. The
How about lend a helping hand along the way?
You’d be better off quoting some Rascal Flats lyrics.

Anonymous wrote:OP managed to rise above the circumstances of her origins by marrying a wealthy man and now wants to make sure the ladder is firmly kicked out from under her.

Buh Buh Buh her DH got all As and earned his position! (No mention of his station in life before school and working though, she has been silent on that)

OP managed to rise above the circumstances of her origins by marrying a wealthy man and now wants to make sure the ladder is firmly kicked out from under her.

Life isn’t always fair but envy will get you nowhere. All that matters is that you accept where you are, figure out where you want to be, and then do what you can, today and everyday, to hold your head high and keep moving forward.

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else spit their drink when OP said MC nephew was graduating from Duke?

I am impressed he got in and navigated Duke as a MC student. I would be super proud. Maybe OP doesn't know Duke is a top school.

What is MC? Middle class?

(no way this kid is middle class, btw. Class is more than money. anybody with connections to paid internships and post grad jobs has upper class social capital, period.)

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else spit their drink when OP said MC nephew was graduating from Duke?

I am impressed he got in and navigated Duke as a MC student. I would be super proud. Maybe OP doesn't know Duke is a top school.

YES! From the way she initially described him I thought he would be graduating with a 2.5 GPA from some school I've never heard of. DUKE!!??

This is literally why people don’t get ahead. Middle class 4eva! Some other colleague’s nephew will gladly take that lower tier job. And I highly doubt he’ll come with a degree from Duke (which has value, weak grades and all).

Did anyone else spit their drink when OP said MC nephew was graduating from Duke?

I am impressed he got in and navigated Duke as a MC student. I would be super proud. Maybe OP doesn't know Duke is a top school.

OP is a horrible person. Just putting that out there.

Every company knows an endorsement for a kid or a kids friend or a nephew or the son or daughter of a tennis buddy doesn’t mean that kid is equipped to do the job. But entry level is entry level and most companies would rather hire someone who knows someone than a complete unknown.

My son is graduating in May, an average student, didn’t do any internships and is using and expanding his network to get a job. He’s had offers from everywhere he has applied to. And most of those jobs were due to who he knows, not what he knows. It’s how the world works.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS recently received a job offer from an investment company. He was selected over five qualified Ivy grads, according to his boss, because he is a D1 athlete at a state school, think of Purdue or Indiana, and was sponsored by an EVP of the company who also played the same sport at the same school as DS. Would he get that job without connections? Of course NOT.

What is his GPA? He had no relevant training or summer internships? And OP's niece or nephew is not a Division 1 Big Ten varsity athlete.

GPA: 2.9

Major: business administration

Summer internships: He did have an internship, an 11-week program, in the summer of his sophomore and junior year with two different investment firms from an alumni in the athletic department. They also gave him six weeks off to train for his sports so that he could get ready for fall season, but he still got paid for those six weeks that he didn't work. He got those internships through connections

So he plays what seems like a varsity sports and is majoring in… what economics? Pretty sure Duke doesn’t have an undergrad business major.

Let me guess. His tuition is dependent on playing the sport, I’m guessing the MC BIL can’t afford full freight tuition.

If you don’t see how far your nephew has come, I really want to hear your story of academic and career success, since you also came from less than?

Duke has an Economics B.A. But if I'm reading Government Scorecard data correctly, the average Duke graduate several years after graduation only makes $97,000. OP says her nephew is a mediocre student. So a mediocre student should be handed a job paying more than their harder working classmates will hope to make four or five years from now? Doesn't seem right.

The purpose of this is to point out that connections are likely the determining factor in hiring someone, even if that candidate is not as qualified as other candidates. Connections matter A LOT. To suggest otherwise is completely delusional. FWIW, DS graduated with a not very useful degree in business administration.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS recently received a job offer from an investment company. He was selected over five qualified Ivy grads, according to his boss, because he is a D1 athlete at a state school, think of Purdue or Indiana, and was sponsored by an EVP of the company who also played the same sport at the same school as DS. Would he get that job without connections? Of course NOT.

What is his GPA? He had no relevant training or summer internships? And OP's niece or nephew is not a Division 1 Big Ten varsity athlete.

GPA: 2.9

Major: business administration

Summer internships: He did have an internship, an 11-week program, in the summer of his sophomore and junior year with two different investment firms from an alumni in the athletic department. They also gave him six weeks off to train for his sports so that he could get ready for fall season, but he still got paid for those six weeks that he didn't work. He got those internships through connections

So he plays what seems like a varsity sports and is majoring in… what economics? Pretty sure Duke doesn’t have an undergrad business major.

Let me guess. His tuition is dependent on playing the sport, I’m guessing the MC BIL can’t afford full freight tuition.

If you don’t see how far your nephew has come, I really want to hear your story of academic and career success, since you also came from less than?

Duke has an Economics B.A. But if I'm reading Government Scorecard data correctly, the average Duke graduate several years after graduation only makes $97,000. OP says her nephew is a mediocre student. So a mediocre student should be handed a job paying more than their harder working classmates will hope to make four or five years from now? Doesn't seem right.

My point was Op said major in “business administration” which doesn’t exist. Maybe economics true, which is a hard major. And he is in a varsity sport. Why not let DH evaluate if he is “hard working” enough, he definitely doesn’t seem like a schlub.