Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 16:05     Subject: Re:The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Anonymous wrote:Let’s not ignore Russia’s hateful antiSemitism:



He's not wrong though that ethnic Ukrainians would be better off under Russian rule.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 16:02     Subject: The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't wait for my kids to go to college so I can move from this sinking country. I swear that in another decade, this country will be in ruin.

Domestically, our politics are dividing us. Economically, the wider the gap in income and national debt will give way to violence, crime, general chaos. Government wise, our stuff is already messy with immigration and health care issues, we will only be more of a mess. Foreign policy wise, I'm not as confident that we'll be number 1 or 2 even because we'll be so weak domestically. Let's face it folks - if it wasn't that we were known as a "superpower" in the world, taken into consideration the strength of our country on a domestic level, we are definitely not even top 10 globally. And the days of having 1 or 2 "superpowers" is not really how things are anymore. Globalization is about partnerships and the world is more complex.


And yet, the US and its allies are trying to maintain those partnerships, while Russia, China and others are fighting against them. The US can still prevail, but unless or until we can figure out how government can "regulate" disinformation and how we can get money out of our politics, it will be a tough battle, but one worth fighting.


Prevail at what? Russia China and Iran shouldn’t have become an Alliance in the first place. Russia shouldve been our friend. We pushed them to China by stupidly wanting to expand NATOs borders eastward and stating this In 2008. For what? Europeans don’t like to fight . Why did we have to expand NATO eastward? What for? It was only to provoke Russia. We didn’t like when Russians put soldiers in our backyard in Cuba so how did we ever expect expanding NATO and the EU would make them feel?

Our biggest threat is actually China not Russia and we pushed Russia to China by being stupid . China , a very smart country, must be glad at our foolishness.


Yep, the Thucydides trap says we're going to have to fight China. So the question becomes, if you have an inevitable conflict with China ahead, do you want Russia on your side or theirs?


Russia's already a vassal of China. The way to defend against the Thuycydides Trap is by consolidating with our allies in NATO, ANZAC, and Japorea.


+1

Besides, the Putin regimes mentality will alway be expansionist. You cannot claim the same of the EU. We cannot be allies with Russia.

Or did 40 years of constant war with the UUSR teach you nothing whatsoever?


Forty years of constant war? Bruh, it was called the cold war for a reason.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 15:57     Subject: Re:The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Let’s not ignore Russia’s hateful antiSemitism:

Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 15:56     Subject: The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't wait for my kids to go to college so I can move from this sinking country. I swear that in another decade, this country will be in ruin.

Domestically, our politics are dividing us. Economically, the wider the gap in income and national debt will give way to violence, crime, general chaos. Government wise, our stuff is already messy with immigration and health care issues, we will only be more of a mess. Foreign policy wise, I'm not as confident that we'll be number 1 or 2 even because we'll be so weak domestically. Let's face it folks - if it wasn't that we were known as a "superpower" in the world, taken into consideration the strength of our country on a domestic level, we are definitely not even top 10 globally. And the days of having 1 or 2 "superpowers" is not really how things are anymore. Globalization is about partnerships and the world is more complex.


And yet, the US and its allies are trying to maintain those partnerships, while Russia, China and others are fighting against them. The US can still prevail, but unless or until we can figure out how government can "regulate" disinformation and how we can get money out of our politics, it will be a tough battle, but one worth fighting.


Prevail at what? Russia China and Iran shouldn’t have become an Alliance in the first place. Russia shouldve been our friend. We pushed them to China by stupidly wanting to expand NATOs borders eastward and stating this In 2008. For what? Europeans don’t like to fight . Why did we have to expand NATO eastward? What for? It was only to provoke Russia. We didn’t like when Russians put soldiers in our backyard in Cuba so how did we ever expect expanding NATO and the EU would make them feel?

Our biggest threat is actually China not Russia and we pushed Russia to China by being stupid . China , a very smart country, must be glad at our foolishness.


Yep, the Thucydides trap says we're going to have to fight China. So the question becomes, if you have an inevitable conflict with China ahead, do you want Russia on your side or theirs?


Russia's already a vassal of China. The way to defend against the Thuycydides Trap is by consolidating with our allies in NATO, ANZAC, and Japorea.


+1

Besides, the Putin regimes mentality will alway be expansionist. You cannot claim the same of the EU. We cannot be allies with Russia.

Or did 40 years of constant war with the UUSR teach you nothing whatsoever?
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 15:53     Subject: The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Anonymous wrote:Looks like Russia is up to something…

https://apple.news/AWPlhKA4pQkKkqm3wMqGDPg


Convenient timing, just as Tucker wraps up his visit. I wonder what message he gave to Putin.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 15:48     Subject: Re:The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Anonymous wrote:“Foreign aid is stealing money from poor people in rich countries, and giving it to rich people in poor countries.”
- Ron Paul


Not in this case. Most of the money would stay in the U.S. where defense companies and their workers would get paid to make stuff that helps Ukraine fight off the Russian invasion.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 15:46     Subject: The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Anonymous wrote:Russia should've been our friend.


Not once Putin took over. His ambitions and methods are incompatible with friendship. Once the Russians kick him to the curb, then perhaps.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 15:42     Subject: The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Anonymous wrote:Looks like Russia is up to something…

https://apple.news/AWPlhKA4pQkKkqm3wMqGDPg


There is a lot of fun speculation on this out there (orbital nukes, anti-satellite weaponry, rods from gods, etc...), but given the timing of this aid package, its probably a nothingburger wrapped in hysteria to keep the money flowing.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 15:29     Subject: Re:The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Putin invaded Crimea in 2014 so this Ukraine war is nothing new but the difference is back then the scam for money didn’t work.

Ukraine was headed by a corrupt oligarch at the time, that’s why we didn’t want to support them.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 15:26     Subject: The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Looks like Russia is up to something…

https://apple.news/AWPlhKA4pQkKkqm3wMqGDPg
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 15:20     Subject: The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So depressing as we grind toward WW3.


Yeah maybe if we let Russia take the Ukraine this will all stop.


Okay Neville
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 15:17     Subject: The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't wait for my kids to go to college so I can move from this sinking country. I swear that in another decade, this country will be in ruin.

Domestically, our politics are dividing us. Economically, the wider the gap in income and national debt will give way to violence, crime, general chaos. Government wise, our stuff is already messy with immigration and health care issues, we will only be more of a mess. Foreign policy wise, I'm not as confident that we'll be number 1 or 2 even because we'll be so weak domestically. Let's face it folks - if it wasn't that we were known as a "superpower" in the world, taken into consideration the strength of our country on a domestic level, we are definitely not even top 10 globally. And the days of having 1 or 2 "superpowers" is not really how things are anymore. Globalization is about partnerships and the world is more complex.


And yet, the US and its allies are trying to maintain those partnerships, while Russia, China and others are fighting against them. The US can still prevail, but unless or until we can figure out how government can "regulate" disinformation and how we can get money out of our politics, it will be a tough battle, but one worth fighting.


Prevail at what? Russia China and Iran shouldn’t have become an Alliance in the first place. Russia shouldve been our friend. We pushed them to China by stupidly wanting to expand NATOs borders eastward and stating this In 2008. For what? Europeans don’t like to fight . Why did we have to expand NATO eastward? What for? It was only to provoke Russia. We didn’t like when Russians put soldiers in our backyard in Cuba so how did we ever expect expanding NATO and the EU would make them feel?

Our biggest threat is actually China not Russia and we pushed Russia to China by being stupid . China , a very smart country, must be glad at our foolishness.


Yep, the Thucydides trap says we're going to have to fight China. So the question becomes, if you have an inevitable conflict with China ahead, do you want Russia on your side or theirs?


Russia's already a vassal of China. The way to defend against the Thuycydides Trap is by consolidating with our allies in NATO, ANZAC, and Japorea.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 15:12     Subject: The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't wait for my kids to go to college so I can move from this sinking country. I swear that in another decade, this country will be in ruin.

Domestically, our politics are dividing us. Economically, the wider the gap in income and national debt will give way to violence, crime, general chaos. Government wise, our stuff is already messy with immigration and health care issues, we will only be more of a mess. Foreign policy wise, I'm not as confident that we'll be number 1 or 2 even because we'll be so weak domestically. Let's face it folks - if it wasn't that we were known as a "superpower" in the world, taken into consideration the strength of our country on a domestic level, we are definitely not even top 10 globally. And the days of having 1 or 2 "superpowers" is not really how things are anymore. Globalization is about partnerships and the world is more complex.


And yet, the US and its allies are trying to maintain those partnerships, while Russia, China and others are fighting against them. The US can still prevail, but unless or until we can figure out how government can "regulate" disinformation and how we can get money out of our politics, it will be a tough battle, but one worth fighting.


Prevail at what? Russia China and Iran shouldn’t have become an Alliance in the first place. Russia shouldve been our friend. We pushed them to China by stupidly wanting to expand NATOs borders eastward and stating this In 2008. For what? Europeans don’t like to fight . Why did we have to expand NATO eastward? What for? It was only to provoke Russia. We didn’t like when Russians put soldiers in our backyard in Cuba so how did we ever expect expanding NATO and the EU would make them feel?

Our biggest threat is actually China not Russia and we pushed Russia to China by being stupid . China , a very smart country, must be glad at our foolishness.


Yep, the Thucydides trap says we're going to have to fight China. So the question becomes, if you have an inevitable conflict with China ahead, do you want Russia on your side or theirs?
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 14:56     Subject: The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't wait for my kids to go to college so I can move from this sinking country. I swear that in another decade, this country will be in ruin.

Domestically, our politics are dividing us. Economically, the wider the gap in income and national debt will give way to violence, crime, general chaos. Government wise, our stuff is already messy with immigration and health care issues, we will only be more of a mess. Foreign policy wise, I'm not as confident that we'll be number 1 or 2 even because we'll be so weak domestically. Let's face it folks - if it wasn't that we were known as a "superpower" in the world, taken into consideration the strength of our country on a domestic level, we are definitely not even top 10 globally. And the days of having 1 or 2 "superpowers" is not really how things are anymore. Globalization is about partnerships and the world is more complex.


And yet, the US and its allies are trying to maintain those partnerships, while Russia, China and others are fighting against them. The US can still prevail, but unless or until we can figure out how government can "regulate" disinformation and how we can get money out of our politics, it will be a tough battle, but one worth fighting.


Prevail at what? Russia China and Iran shouldn’t have become an Alliance in the first place. Russia shouldve been our friend. We pushed them to China by stupidly wanting to expand NATOs borders eastward and stating this In 2008. For what? Europeans don’t like to fight . Why did we have to expand NATO eastward? What for? It was only to provoke Russia. We didn’t like when Russians put soldiers in our backyard in Cuba so how did we ever expect expanding NATO and the EU would make them feel?

Our biggest threat is actually China not Russia and we pushed Russia to China by being stupid . China , a very smart country, must be glad at our foolishness.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2024 14:18     Subject: The Senate passed a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan

Anonymous wrote:I can't wait for my kids to go to college so I can move from this sinking country. I swear that in another decade, this country will be in ruin.

Domestically, our politics are dividing us. Economically, the wider the gap in income and national debt will give way to violence, crime, general chaos. Government wise, our stuff is already messy with immigration and health care issues, we will only be more of a mess. Foreign policy wise, I'm not as confident that we'll be number 1 or 2 even because we'll be so weak domestically. Let's face it folks - if it wasn't that we were known as a "superpower" in the world, taken into consideration the strength of our country on a domestic level, we are definitely not even top 10 globally. And the days of having 1 or 2 "superpowers" is not really how things are anymore. Globalization is about partnerships and the world is more complex.


And yet, the US and its allies are trying to maintain those partnerships, while Russia, China and others are fighting against them. The US can still prevail, but unless or until we can figure out how government can "regulate" disinformation and how we can get money out of our politics, it will be a tough battle, but one worth fighting.