Anonymous
Post 03/02/2024 21:52     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

I ate oatmeal for breakfast on a daily basis while losing 45 pounds over the course of 7 or 8 months. I made it with a splash of milk and added fresh berries.

I don't find oatmeal particularly filling (I dont find ANY food particularly filling - my appetite is crazy) - I just like oatmeal. I've kept the weight off for 3 years and still eat it regularly.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2024 08:44     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

I think everyone’s body is slightly different in terms of dietary reactions. I seem to be sensitive to gluten in breads and cereals. If I eat a lot of them I start to gain weight and feel pretty crappy. But when I eat oatmeal everyday for breakfast I magically lose weight! I think it fills me up with non-gluten calories so I eat less bread throughout the day. I’m also a big nut and seed person that I mix in (almonds, pumpkins seeds, etc) so that probably helps.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2024 08:35     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

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Anonymous wrote:They make me hungry and also make me fart up a storm. As they do not even taste good to me I much rather have some Greek yoghurt or eggs and some berries or Ezekiel bread for fiber. You should at the minimum have some protein with those oats.


A serving of oats (the old fashioned kind) has 6 grams of protein and 4 grams of fiber. This is without adding anything at all to it. It isn’t like OP is eating a slice of Wonder Bread for breakfast


Not impressed by that. I try to have at least 25g of protein in my breakfast. But as I said, my main issue with oats is that they don’t fill me up and cause me digestive issues.


FYI 25 grams of protein is about the maximum your body could even absorb in one sitting, so going over that amount is a complete waste and you’ll just be peeing it out and overworking your kidneys for the privilege.


This is complete BS. There are studies that show you can absorb about that much for muscle protein synthesis. But there are other tissues in your body that require protein. And what you don’t use for those gets simply used as energy. Nothing gets wasted. Protein is good for you and you need more if it as you age. Your kidneys will be fine.


Hmmm… well I have a lifetime of experience with CKD and I can tell you from experience that your kidneys very well may NOT be fine. But sure, it’s BS because whatever fad nutritionists you’re into on tiktok or some inane podcast are constantly bloviating about protein. I’ll pass your enlightening take on to some of my nephrologist and renal dietician friends.


It’s virtually impossible to put yourself into kidney disease or failure from consuming too much protein. That would take some serious effort. Sure it’s possible, just like anything is possible.



It’s not that consuming too much protein will CAUSE CKD, but a significant portion of the population already had kidney disease and they don’t even know it - and consuming excess protein will absolutely exacerbate the condition and hasten the kidney decline.

So a blanket statement such as “ your kidneys will be fine” is patently ridiculous and incorrect.


NP. I’m in the medical field and can say this is correct. Especially in middle age and beyond when blood pressure starts to creep up.
Anonymous
Post 02/29/2024 11:38     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

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Anonymous wrote:They make me hungry and also make me fart up a storm. As they do not even taste good to me I much rather have some Greek yoghurt or eggs and some berries or Ezekiel bread for fiber. You should at the minimum have some protein with those oats.


A serving of oats (the old fashioned kind) has 6 grams of protein and 4 grams of fiber. This is without adding anything at all to it. It isn’t like OP is eating a slice of Wonder Bread for breakfast


Not impressed by that. I try to have at least 25g of protein in my breakfast. But as I said, my main issue with oats is that they don’t fill me up and cause me digestive issues.


FYI 25 grams of protein is about the maximum your body could even absorb in one sitting, so going over that amount is a complete waste and you’ll just be peeing it out and overworking your kidneys for the privilege.


This is complete BS. There are studies that show you can absorb about that much for muscle protein synthesis. But there are other tissues in your body that require protein. And what you don’t use for those gets simply used as energy. Nothing gets wasted. Protein is good for you and you need more if it as you age. Your kidneys will be fine.


Hmmm… well I have a lifetime of experience with CKD and I can tell you from experience that your kidneys very well may NOT be fine. But sure, it’s BS because whatever fad nutritionists you’re into on tiktok or some inane podcast are constantly bloviating about protein. I’ll pass your enlightening take on to some of my nephrologist and renal dietician friends.


I am glad you manage to have friends. You could have probably more of them if you avoided attacking everyone who disagrees with you.


My completely benign PSA was met with a response of “this is complete BS” and I am the bad guy? Kidney disease sucks - I genuinely would like to help people avoid the worst effects of it if possible, even if providing factual information is an “attack” in your world.

This isn’t a matter if disagreeing with you - you were just objectively wrong. Sorry you can’t handle being corrected. And spouting potentially dangerous misinformation on a topic of which you are clearly ignorant.
Anonymous
Post 02/29/2024 11:30     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

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Anonymous wrote:They make me hungry and also make me fart up a storm. As they do not even taste good to me I much rather have some Greek yoghurt or eggs and some berries or Ezekiel bread for fiber. You should at the minimum have some protein with those oats.


A serving of oats (the old fashioned kind) has 6 grams of protein and 4 grams of fiber. This is without adding anything at all to it. It isn’t like OP is eating a slice of Wonder Bread for breakfast


Not impressed by that. I try to have at least 25g of protein in my breakfast. But as I said, my main issue with oats is that they don’t fill me up and cause me digestive issues.


FYI 25 grams of protein is about the maximum your body could even absorb in one sitting, so going over that amount is a complete waste and you’ll just be peeing it out and overworking your kidneys for the privilege.


This is complete BS. There are studies that show you can absorb about that much for muscle protein synthesis. But there are other tissues in your body that require protein. And what you don’t use for those gets simply used as energy. Nothing gets wasted. Protein is good for you and you need more if it as you age. Your kidneys will be fine.


Hmmm… well I have a lifetime of experience with CKD and I can tell you from experience that your kidneys very well may NOT be fine. But sure, it’s BS because whatever fad nutritionists you’re into on tiktok or some inane podcast are constantly bloviating about protein. I’ll pass your enlightening take on to some of my nephrologist and renal dietician friends.


I am glad you manage to have friends. You could have probably more of them if you avoided attacking everyone who disagrees with you.
Anonymous
Post 02/29/2024 11:26     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

Your genetics are your genetics. A bowl of oatmeal will not change that fact. My great-grandfather lived to 105 and never ate oatmeal, but he smoked.

We're surrounded by pollutants in everything we eat/drink.

Just portion control for thinness. No amount of "organic" blueberries on your oatmeal or your "chia pudding" will deter your genetic predisposition.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 23:27     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

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Anonymous wrote:They make me hungry and also make me fart up a storm. As they do not even taste good to me I much rather have some Greek yoghurt or eggs and some berries or Ezekiel bread for fiber. You should at the minimum have some protein with those oats.


A serving of oats (the old fashioned kind) has 6 grams of protein and 4 grams of fiber. This is without adding anything at all to it. It isn’t like OP is eating a slice of Wonder Bread for breakfast


Not impressed by that. I try to have at least 25g of protein in my breakfast. But as I said, my main issue with oats is that they don’t fill me up and cause me digestive issues.


FYI 25 grams of protein is about the maximum your body could even absorb in one sitting, so going over that amount is a complete waste and you’ll just be peeing it out and overworking your kidneys for the privilege.


This is complete BS. There are studies that show you can absorb about that much for muscle protein synthesis. But there are other tissues in your body that require protein. And what you don’t use for those gets simply used as energy. Nothing gets wasted. Protein is good for you and you need more if it as you age. Your kidneys will be fine.


Hmmm… well I have a lifetime of experience with CKD and I can tell you from experience that your kidneys very well may NOT be fine. But sure, it’s BS because whatever fad nutritionists you’re into on tiktok or some inane podcast are constantly bloviating about protein. I’ll pass your enlightening take on to some of my nephrologist and renal dietician friends.


It’s virtually impossible to put yourself into kidney disease or failure from consuming too much protein. That would take some serious effort. Sure it’s possible, just like anything is possible.



It’s not that consuming too much protein will CAUSE CKD, but a significant portion of the population already had kidney disease and they don’t even know it - and consuming excess protein will absolutely exacerbate the condition and hasten the kidney decline.

So a blanket statement such as “ your kidneys will be fine” is patently ridiculous and incorrect.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 22:27     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

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Anonymous wrote:Rolled oats are quite easy and quick to cook in microwave and, I believe, a better source of fiber. A cup of oats, cup of water, 90 sec in microwave. Add nuts and berries and you’re good. Super easy.


That's two servings no?


NP. My steel cut oats serving is 1/4 cup. 1 cup of oats sounds crazy huge. Also in general the oats to water ratio should be 1:2.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 22:24     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

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Anonymous wrote:They make me hungry and also make me fart up a storm. As they do not even taste good to me I much rather have some Greek yoghurt or eggs and some berries or Ezekiel bread for fiber. You should at the minimum have some protein with those oats.


A serving of oats (the old fashioned kind) has 6 grams of protein and 4 grams of fiber. This is without adding anything at all to it. It isn’t like OP is eating a slice of Wonder Bread for breakfast


Not impressed by that. I try to have at least 25g of protein in my breakfast. But as I said, my main issue with oats is that they don’t fill me up and cause me digestive issues.


FYI 25 grams of protein is about the maximum your body could even absorb in one sitting, so going over that amount is a complete waste and you’ll just be peeing it out and overworking your kidneys for the privilege.


This is complete BS. There are studies that show you can absorb about that much for muscle protein synthesis. But there are other tissues in your body that require protein. And what you don’t use for those gets simply used as energy. Nothing gets wasted. Protein is good for you and you need more if it as you age. Your kidneys will be fine.


Hmmm… well I have a lifetime of experience with CKD and I can tell you from experience that your kidneys very well may NOT be fine. But sure, it’s BS because whatever fad nutritionists you’re into on tiktok or some inane podcast are constantly bloviating about protein. I’ll pass your enlightening take on to some of my nephrologist and renal dietician friends.


It’s virtually impossible to put yourself into kidney disease or failure from consuming too much protein. That would take some serious effort. Sure it’s possible, just like anything is possible.

Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 22:09     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

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Anonymous wrote:They make me hungry and also make me fart up a storm. As they do not even taste good to me I much rather have some Greek yoghurt or eggs and some berries or Ezekiel bread for fiber. You should at the minimum have some protein with those oats.


A serving of oats (the old fashioned kind) has 6 grams of protein and 4 grams of fiber. This is without adding anything at all to it. It isn’t like OP is eating a slice of Wonder Bread for breakfast


Not impressed by that. I try to have at least 25g of protein in my breakfast. But as I said, my main issue with oats is that they don’t fill me up and cause me digestive issues.


FYI 25 grams of protein is about the maximum your body could even absorb in one sitting, so going over that amount is a complete waste and you’ll just be peeing it out and overworking your kidneys for the privilege.


This is complete BS. There are studies that show you can absorb about that much for muscle protein synthesis. But there are other tissues in your body that require protein. And what you don’t use for those gets simply used as energy. Nothing gets wasted. Protein is good for you and you need more if it as you age. Your kidneys will be fine.


Hmmm… well I have a lifetime of experience with CKD and I can tell you from experience that your kidneys very well may NOT be fine. But sure, it’s BS because whatever fad nutritionists you’re into on tiktok or some inane podcast are constantly bloviating about protein. I’ll pass your enlightening take on to some of my nephrologist and renal dietician friends.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 10:05     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

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Anonymous wrote:They make me hungry and also make me fart up a storm. As they do not even taste good to me I much rather have some Greek yoghurt or eggs and some berries or Ezekiel bread for fiber. You should at the minimum have some protein with those oats.


A serving of oats (the old fashioned kind) has 6 grams of protein and 4 grams of fiber. This is without adding anything at all to it. It isn’t like OP is eating a slice of Wonder Bread for breakfast


Bob's Red Mill has a new variety called Protein Oats. It's a different kind of oats that has 9g of protein per serving. I've seen it for sale at Whole Foods.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2024 10:40     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

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Anonymous wrote:They make me hungry and also make me fart up a storm. As they do not even taste good to me I much rather have some Greek yoghurt or eggs and some berries or Ezekiel bread for fiber. You should at the minimum have some protein with those oats.


A serving of oats (the old fashioned kind) has 6 grams of protein and 4 grams of fiber. This is without adding anything at all to it. It isn’t like OP is eating a slice of Wonder Bread for breakfast


Not impressed by that. I try to have at least 25g of protein in my breakfast. But as I said, my main issue with oats is that they don’t fill me up and cause me digestive issues.


FYI 25 grams of protein is about the maximum your body could even absorb in one sitting, so going over that amount is a complete waste and you’ll just be peeing it out and overworking your kidneys for the privilege.


This is complete BS. There are studies that show you can absorb about that much for muscle protein synthesis. But there are other tissues in your body that require protein. And what you don’t use for those gets simply used as energy. Nothing gets wasted. Protein is good for you and you need more if it as you age. Your kidneys will be fine.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2024 10:34     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

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Anonymous wrote:They make me hungry and also make me fart up a storm. As they do not even taste good to me I much rather have some Greek yoghurt or eggs and some berries or Ezekiel bread for fiber. You should at the minimum have some protein with those oats.


A serving of oats (the old fashioned kind) has 6 grams of protein and 4 grams of fiber. This is without adding anything at all to it. It isn’t like OP is eating a slice of Wonder Bread for breakfast


Not impressed by that. I try to have at least 25g of protein in my breakfast. But as I said, my main issue with oats is that they don’t fill me up and cause me digestive issues.


FYI 25 grams of protein is about the maximum your body could even absorb in one sitting, so going over that amount is a complete waste and you’ll just be peeing it out and overworking your kidneys for the privilege.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2024 15:57     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They make me hungry and also make me fart up a storm. As they do not even taste good to me I much rather have some Greek yoghurt or eggs and some berries or Ezekiel bread for fiber. You should at the minimum have some protein with those oats.


A serving of oats (the old fashioned kind) has 6 grams of protein and 4 grams of fiber. This is without adding anything at all to it. It isn’t like OP is eating a slice of Wonder Bread for breakfast


Not impressed by that. I try to have at least 25g of protein in my breakfast. But as I said, my main issue with oats is that they don’t fill me up and cause me digestive issues.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2024 14:21     Subject: Is it true plain oatmeal, steel cut or otherwise, is not actually a healthy breakfast?

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Anonymous wrote:It is grains. Grains are healthy if part of a healthy diet overall. It is a little too much carb loading for the morning for me, but maybe not for you. What else do you eat?


How many g of carbs a day should a thin middle aged woman have per day? I’m asking sincerely. And is there something problematic about too many carbs in the morning especially?

44 g carbs oatmeal + 30 g carbs banana = way too carbs many for breakfast?


For me to maintain a normal BMI, I eat less than 50g carbs most days. If I want to lose weight, it’s under 30.
do you get kidney stones?