Anonymous wrote:I had a friend who did the whole traditional Christian wife thing for 30 years. Then hubs dumped her for a younger woman, screwed her big time in the divorce, and now she is 60 years old and works for minimum wage to scrape together rent on a small apartment. Being dependent on a man is too big a risk.

Anonymous wrote: To be specific the leading cause of death, according to that article above, for females age 1-44 years old is unintentional injuries. Cancer and heart disease over takes that during the later years.

Still I think that the PPs main point still stands. Women are much more likely to die at the hands of their parents, boyfriends and husbands than should be acceptable in our society. Misogyny reins supreme.

Anonymous wrote:Am I really the only trad wife on DCUM

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe this works if you’ve got really average and unremarkable daughters who are super good at domestic tasks? Like I wouldn’t close it off as a path for a girl without other options.

Why do you say “like” so much? (It’s obvious you have posted more than once in this thread.) Do you think it makes you seem, like, remarkable? Although I suppose I AM remarking on you, so well played.

Actually that was my first post and the “like” is meant to be read ironically, since this is such a patently misogynistic idea that truly could— or should— only appeal to the sort of parent who looks at their child and thinks they have very little to offer beyond menial tasks and service.

Why do you consider taking care of children, cooking, and cleaning to be “menial tasks”? As opposed to sitting at a desk making powerpoints, for example.

I maintain that YOUR attitude is what is “patently misogynistic”.

+1. I hate feminist women who look down on women who are homemakers. Isn’t feminism about women having a choice and choosing what works for them?

I don’t see anything wrong I’m providing a loving home for your family and raising kids.

Where do you get the idea that feminism means you have to look up to all women? Do you look up to sex workers? Pole dancers? No? Then why do you think people need to look up to you?

If sex workers and pole dancers like their professions and have decent working conditions and wages, who are we to criticize or look down? Why pole dancer's work is any different than Beyonce or J Lo?

It’s not necessary to look down on a sex worker to think it’s a serious flaw if she says “I’m raising my daughter to be a prostitute”

The people saying corporate jobs aren’t all they’re cracked up to be aren’t wrong, but they have identified the absolutely wrong solution— make your spouse have them.

Teach your kids about saving and investing from preschool. Explain how budgets work and what tradeoffs are. They can work 20 hours a week in a creative job they love if dividends from their stock portfolio provides the rest of the income they need.

Society likes taking taxes from any worker, even from sex workers, pole dancers are not prostitutes.

Many cheating wives are not prostitutes either.
This society teaches people to work, work, work, there's no enough help after your child is out of the womb, right wingers hates giving away food stamps, creating social
Programs, help for families, healthcare is so expensive and college. Really doesn't help Americans
They rather fund wars and keep selling weapons to other countries

They are not pro life, they are pro birth

War is profitable
Make Peace profitable

We gotta teach kids to be empathetic first

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an academically accomplished attorney with a long, varied career all centered on public interest positions.

All my life I've struggled with the inner me, who wanted very much and nothing more than to be home with a bunch of kids and dogs and maybe a cat and a house full of after school friends visits chaos and fun and love.

The career began in victim advocacy with sexual assault and domestic violence victims, then I went to legal aid as an attorney with the same kind of work, then I became a public defender then I became a prosecutor.

Having seen all that I've seen over the decades from the universe of what some (too many) men will do to women and children, and seeing it every single day in the local and not so local news, I take comfort in the path I stumbled on.

I live with the sadness of not having made a family of my own, but free from the anxiety of what the world might do to my children and what their own father might do to all of us.

It's exceedingly dangerous to entrust yourself to a husband.

Sad, and sadly true.

Sad, but also very clearly biased based on PP’s particular line of work…

No. Not really.

The number one leading cause of death for women is violence from their husbands/boyfriends.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an academically accomplished attorney with a long, varied career all centered on public interest positions.

All my life I've struggled with the inner me, who wanted very much and nothing more than to be home with a bunch of kids and dogs and maybe a cat and a house full of after school friends visits chaos and fun and love.

The career began in victim advocacy with sexual assault and domestic violence victims, then I went to legal aid as an attorney with the same kind of work, then I became a public defender then I became a prosecutor.

Having seen all that I've seen over the decades from the universe of what some (too many) men will do to women and children, and seeing it every single day in the local and not so local news, I take comfort in the path I stumbled on.

I live with the sadness of not having made a family of my own, but free from the anxiety of what the world might do to my children and what their own father might do to all of us.

It's exceedingly dangerous to entrust yourself to a husband.

Sad, and sadly true.

Sad, but also very clearly biased based on PP’s particular line of work…

Anonymous wrote:I had a friend who did the whole traditional Christian wife thing for 30 years. Then hubs dumped her for a younger woman, screwed her big time in the divorce, and now she is 60 years old and works for minimum wage to scrape together rent on a small apartment. Being dependent on a man is too big a risk.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe this works if you’ve got really average and unremarkable daughters who are super good at domestic tasks? Like I wouldn’t close it off as a path for a girl without other options.

Why do you say “like” so much? (It’s obvious you have posted more than once in this thread.) Do you think it makes you seem, like, remarkable? Although I suppose I AM remarking on you, so well played.

Actually that was my first post and the “like” is meant to be read ironically, since this is such a patently misogynistic idea that truly could— or should— only appeal to the sort of parent who looks at their child and thinks they have very little to offer beyond menial tasks and service.

Why do you consider taking care of children, cooking, and cleaning to be “menial tasks”? As opposed to sitting at a desk making powerpoints, for example.

I maintain that YOUR attitude is what is “patently misogynistic”.

+1. I hate feminist women who look down on women who are homemakers. Isn’t feminism about women having a choice and choosing what works for them?

I don’t see anything wrong I’m providing a loving home for your family and raising kids.

Where do you get the idea that feminism means you have to look up to all women? Do you look up to sex workers? Pole dancers? No? Then why do you think people need to look up to you?

If sex workers and pole dancers like their professions and have decent working conditions and wages, who are we to criticize or look down? Why pole dancer's work is any different than Beyonce or J Lo?

It’s not necessary to look down on a sex worker to think it’s a serious flaw if she says “I’m raising my daughter to be a prostitute”

The people saying corporate jobs aren’t all they’re cracked up to be aren’t wrong, but they have identified the absolutely wrong solution— make your spouse have them.

Teach your kids about saving and investing from preschool. Explain how budgets work and what tradeoffs are. They can work 20 hours a week in a creative job they love if dividends from their stock portfolio provides the rest of the income they need.

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Anonymous wrote:A man is not a plan.

Lol—
I think what Gen Z is telling us is women have been duped into thinking feminism means the solution to women’s happiness is working 9 to 5 at some job just like the men have been doing.
Newsflash: it sucks!
So maybe a man IS, in fact, a plan. And a good one if it means I don’t have to stare at a computer screen and four cubicle walls my whole adult life.

yeah but men don't want a sucubus.
SAHM is a thing that happens for a bunch of reasons. It's not something most men are like - looking for. why would you? they dont want to stare at 4 walls either!

Most men do want a stay at home wife. You don’t know men.

I have never met a man who wanted this.
and there's a reason that zero very wealthy men have one. all their wives have something going on. sah with nothing else is solidly LMC low COL/ flyover behavior.

What are you talking about? Plenty of rich and UMC families have SAHMs. Some even have a SAHM and a nanny.