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If OP in fact is alcohol-dependent and/or has an alcohol use disorder, she needs more than just cessation for 30 days to prove to her husband (who might be a rational concerned spouse or might be a controlling whack job or anywhere in between--we haven't heard from her again) that she can. She needs treatment.

Oh--she has been back! And she says she loves and respects him, and she is prepared to accept his concerns regarding the 7% increased risk of breast cancer. So: it's all good. Cool your jets, DCUM.

Was the 7% increase equal to one drink a day?

That small of an increase wouldn't stop me from drinking exactly one drink a day. Neither does my 28 BMI.

Each daily drink is a 7% increase. So two drinks a day would be a 14% increase.

Can you provide the citation for this, please? I’m not finding it.

See links I've provided above (DP). Within the links are other links to the research studies. There is no question that poster's assertion is in line with the science. Sorry! Time to reconsider those daily pours of wine.

You’re not sorry at all, you enjoy being a sanctimonious tw7t.

Science is not sanctimonious, poster.

Being anti-science is more than a little bit sad, especially when it comes to railing against science that points to you drinking your way into an early grave. You are entirely within your rights to make whatever life choices you want to make, but to be angry and bitter and feel the need to call out the science and the messenger who is merely seeking to educate?

I guarantee you that there are at least a dozen posters who read this thread or contributed to it and who didn't have the actual current science on the detrimental effects of even low and moderate alcohol consumption - that science is new within the last few years, after years of messaging low to moderate use is healthy.

I'm sure just as many had their eyes opened regarding alcohol units as measured by health officials in all that research with statistics on frequency of consumption and cancer risk, versus alcohol units as perceived by the average casual drinker. Most low to moderate alcohol drinkers are actually drinking 2-3 times more alcohol units than they realize in terms of how it impacts health.

And of course the newest science based advice, which is to avoid alcohol entirely and cultivate healthier habits for stress or mood management.

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Alcohol

Many studies show women who drink alcohol have an increased risk of breast cancer [23].

A pooled analysis of data from 53 studies found for each alcoholic drink consumed per day, the relative risk of breast cancer increased by about 7% [23].

Women who had 2-3 alcoholic drinks per day had a 20% higher risk of breast cancer than women who didn’t drink alcohol [23].

https://www.komen.org/breast-cancer/risk-factor/alcohol-consumption/

The overall risk of breast cancer is 13%. 20% extra risk would bring that up to 15.6% overall risk. That's assuming the drunks weren't already being factored into the 13% statistic.

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If OP in fact is alcohol-dependent and/or has an alcohol use disorder, she needs more than just cessation for 30 days to prove to her husband (who might be a rational concerned spouse or might be a controlling whack job or anywhere in between--we haven't heard from her again) that she can. She needs treatment.

Oh--she has been back! And she says she loves and respects him, and she is prepared to accept his concerns regarding the 7% increased risk of breast cancer. So: it's all good. Cool your jets, DCUM.

Was the 7% increase equal to one drink a day?

That small of an increase wouldn't stop me from drinking exactly one drink a day. Neither does my 28 BMI.

Each daily drink is a 7% increase. So two drinks a day would be a 14% increase.

Can you provide the citation for this, please? I’m not finding it.

See links I've provided above (DP). Within the links are other links to the research studies. There is no question that poster's assertion is in line with the science. Sorry! Time to reconsider those daily pours of wine.

You’re not sorry at all, you enjoy being a sanctimonious tw7t.

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Anonymous wrote:OP hasn’t said what her one drink is.

I am very petite and I have a few drinks a week. For me, a drink is 4 oz. That’s it. I can feel a buzz with that amount. If I was drinking daily over that amount, I would consider myself an alcoholic and frankly, it would be noticeable.

Without knowing what her tolerance levels are, I would hear her husband out on why he’s concerned. Alcoholism runs in both my and my husbands families and it’s understood that we’d monitor each other.

Yes she did. She said one glass of wine or one hard cider.

If she had posted this in the Food, Cooking and Restaurants Forum, people would be giving her advice on what food to pair with that one glass of red wine.

If she had posted in the Relationships Forum, people would be telling her to dump the controlling a-whole.

But she had to post in the Health Forum, where a bunch of 2024 mask wearing freaks of nature are going to tell her that she's a one drink a day alcoholic because her dumb husband said so, and she's now going to surely get cancer because she's 7% more at risk (taking her from an overall breast cancer risk of 13% to 14%).

One glass doesn’t mean one serving of wine. That she didn’t make it specific or hasn’t chimed in yet to clarify likely means her “glass” is at least a couple of times more than the serving.

Anonymous wrote:In 53 years of living I have yet to see the person whose 'one' daily glass of wine is a four ounce pour.

In the United States, one "standard" drink (or one alcoholic drink equivalent) contains roughly 14 grams of pure alcohol, which is found in: 12 ounces of regular beer, which is usually about 5% alcohol. 5 ounces of wine, which is typically about 12% alcohol. 1.5 ounces of distilled spirits, which is about 40% alcohol.

https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/what-standard-drink#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20one,which%20is%20about%2040%25%20alcohol

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If OP in fact is alcohol-dependent and/or has an alcohol use disorder, she needs more than just cessation for 30 days to prove to her husband (who might be a rational concerned spouse or might be a controlling whack job or anywhere in between--we haven't heard from her again) that she can. She needs treatment.

Oh--she has been back! And she says she loves and respects him, and she is prepared to accept his concerns regarding the 7% increased risk of breast cancer. So: it's all good. Cool your jets, DCUM.

Was the 7% increase equal to one drink a day?

That small of an increase wouldn't stop me from drinking exactly one drink a day. Neither does my 28 BMI.

Each daily drink is a 7% increase. So two drinks a day would be a 14% increase.

Can you provide the citation for this, please? I’m not finding it.

See links I've provided above (DP). Within the links are other links to the research studies. There is no question that poster's assertion is in line with the science. Sorry! Time to reconsider those daily pours of wine.

Alcohol

Many studies show women who drink alcohol have an increased risk of breast cancer [23].

A pooled analysis of data from 53 studies found for each alcoholic drink consumed per day, the relative risk of breast cancer increased by about 7% [23].

Women who had 2-3 alcoholic drinks per day had a 20% higher risk of breast cancer than women who didn’t drink alcohol [23].

https://www.komen.org/breast-cancer/risk-factor/alcohol-consumption/

Alcohol is classified as a Group 1 human carcinogen by IARC. It is causally linked to 7 types of cancer. Besides female breast cancer, it increases the risk of developing oral cavity (mouth), pharynx (throat), oesophagus (gullet), liver, larynx (voice box) and colorectum (large intestine and rectum) cancers.

There is no safe level of alcohol consumption. The risk of breast cancer increases with each unit of alcohol consumed per day. More than 10% of alcohol-attributable cancer cases in the Region arise from drinking just 1 bottle of beer (500 ml) or 2 small glasses of wine (100 ml each) every day. For breast cancer, this is even higher: 1 in 4 alcohol-attributable breast cancer cases in the Region is caused by this amount.

https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/20-10-2021-alcohol-is-one-of-the-biggest-risk-factors-for-breast-cancer#:~:text=The%20risk%20of%20breast%20cancer%20increases%20with%20each%20unit%20of,100%20ml%20each)%20every%20day.

Note that a full 12 oz. bottle of hard cider would actually be 1.25-1.5 units of alcohol, not one unit.

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If OP in fact is alcohol-dependent and/or has an alcohol use disorder, she needs more than just cessation for 30 days to prove to her husband (who might be a rational concerned spouse or might be a controlling whack job or anywhere in between--we haven't heard from her again) that she can. She needs treatment.

Oh--she has been back! And she says she loves and respects him, and she is prepared to accept his concerns regarding the 7% increased risk of breast cancer. So: it's all good. Cool your jets, DCUM.

Was the 7% increase equal to one drink a day?

That small of an increase wouldn't stop me from drinking exactly one drink a day. Neither does my 28 BMI.

Each daily drink is a 7% increase. So two drinks a day would be a 14% increase.

Can you provide the citation for this, please? I’m not finding it.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t drink (it gives me headaches), and my husband does. He will have one or two drinks a few nights a week, and I don’t think he has a “problem.”

But I sometimes do feel frustrated by his drinking habits. The issue is that I’m always dead sober, and when he’s drinking we’re just not mentally in the same space. He’s laughing more easily and is more relaxed, but I’m still just me. If he drank only occasionally (special occasions, occasional dinners out), who cares? But when it’s several times a week, it can feel a little like—I don’t know—we’re not occupying the same space.

So maybe that’s why it bothers your husband. Every single night adds up to kind of a lot.

When my husband watches football he and I are not “mentally in the same space,” but I would not ask him to give up football. You sound horrid. Maybe he drinks because of you.

Anonymous wrote:In 53 years of living I have yet to see the person whose 'one' daily glass of wine is a four ounce pour.

Mine are. I just had one last night. Although, one daily serving for wine is actually 5 oz.

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If OP in fact is alcohol-dependent and/or has an alcohol use disorder, she needs more than just cessation for 30 days to prove to her husband (who might be a rational concerned spouse or might be a controlling whack job or anywhere in between--we haven't heard from her again) that she can. She needs treatment.

Oh--she has been back! And she says she loves and respects him, and she is prepared to accept his concerns regarding the 7% increased risk of breast cancer. So: it's all good. Cool your jets, DCUM.

Was the 7% increase equal to one drink a day?

That small of an increase wouldn't stop me from drinking exactly one drink a day. Neither does my 28 BMI.

Each daily drink is a 7% increase. So two drinks a day would be a 14% increase.

Did you graduate high school? This is not how that works. If you do not understand science at even a basic level, you should probably not comment.

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Anonymous wrote:OP hasn’t said what her one drink is.

I am very petite and I have a few drinks a week. For me, a drink is 4 oz. That’s it. I can feel a buzz with that amount. If I was drinking daily over that amount, I would consider myself an alcoholic and frankly, it would be noticeable.

Without knowing what her tolerance levels are, I would hear her husband out on why he’s concerned. Alcoholism runs in both my and my husbands families and it’s understood that we’d monitor each other.

Yes she did. She said one glass of wine or one hard cider.

If she had posted this in the Food, Cooking and Restaurants Forum, people would be giving her advice on what food to pair with that one glass of red wine.

If she had posted in the Relationships Forum, people would be telling her to dump the controlling a-whole.

But she had to post in the Health Forum, where a bunch of 2024 mask wearing freaks of nature are going to tell her that she's a one drink a day alcoholic because her dumb husband said so, and she's now going to surely get cancer because she's 7% more at risk (taking her from an overall breast cancer risk of 13% to 14%).

That sums it up nicely!

In 53 years of living I have yet to see the person whose 'one' daily glass of wine is a four ounce pour.