Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP again. We don't have access to Naviance/SCOIR data yet. Assuming that HYPSM's are generally super top (close to 4.0 kids) and folks with solid academics and legacy/donor and/or URM type status? If so, is it best for DC to just forget about HYPSM?
Would not waste time with HYPSM. MIT is not happening. And without a significant hook, neither is HYPS.
But the stats are good enough for anywhere else. Make sure those ECs also demonstrate leadership. Sounds like she is more inclined to go to a university rather than a LAC. Spend spring break visiting campuses to get a better sense of fit and what she might like. Maybe go South - Duke, Vanderbilt, WashU. Or to the Midwest - Northwestern, Chicago, Michigan, Notre Dame. Schools in PA - Penn - and NY - Columbia, NYU - can be done over weekends. I think schools in NE like Dartmouth and Cornell should only be visited in winter. The April visits are very deceptive.
It does tend to be advantageous to apply ED. But only do so to a school where you really want to go. Often it just clicks when you visit. And look at where this year's seniors are getting in. That will give you sense of patterns and possibilities.
Op here. Thanks. This is the kind of straightforward (blunt!) advice I needed.
Sorry - more bad news.. my DD at a big 3 had a similar profile to your daughter and was rejected early from a second tier Ivy and we were hooked. Also FORGET Duke or Brown. Unless your child is hooked no one is getting in and even then not a guarantee.
Wow - it’s rough out there. Hooked at second tier Ivy w those stats and rejected? Yikes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP again. We don't have access to Naviance/SCOIR data yet. Assuming that HYPSM's are generally super top (close to 4.0 kids) and folks with solid academics and legacy/donor and/or URM type status? If so, is it best for DC to just forget about HYPSM?
Would not waste time with HYPSM. MIT is not happening. And without a significant hook, neither is HYPS.
But the stats are good enough for anywhere else. Make sure those ECs also demonstrate leadership. Sounds like she is more inclined to go to a university rather than a LAC. Spend spring break visiting campuses to get a better sense of fit and what she might like. Maybe go South - Duke, Vanderbilt, WashU. Or to the Midwest - Northwestern, Chicago, Michigan, Notre Dame. Schools in PA - Penn - and NY - Columbia, NYU - can be done over weekends. I think schools in NE like Dartmouth and Cornell should only be visited in winter. The April visits are very deceptive.
It does tend to be advantageous to apply ED. But only do so to a school where you really want to go. Often it just clicks when you visit. And look at where this year's seniors are getting in. That will give you sense of patterns and possibilities.
Op here. Thanks. This is the kind of straightforward (blunt!) advice I needed.
Sorry - more bad news.. my DD at a big 3 had a similar profile to your daughter and was rejected early from a second tier Ivy and we were hooked. Also FORGET Duke or Brown. Unless your child is hooked no one is getting in and even then not a guarantee.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP again. We don't have access to Naviance/SCOIR data yet. Assuming that HYPSM's are generally super top (close to 4.0 kids) and folks with solid academics and legacy/donor and/or URM type status? If so, is it best for DC to just forget about HYPSM?
Would not waste time with HYPSM. MIT is not happening. And without a significant hook, neither is HYPS.
But the stats are good enough for anywhere else. Make sure those ECs also demonstrate leadership. Sounds like she is more inclined to go to a university rather than a LAC. Spend spring break visiting campuses to get a better sense of fit and what she might like. Maybe go South - Duke, Vanderbilt, WashU. Or to the Midwest - Northwestern, Chicago, Michigan, Notre Dame. Schools in PA - Penn - and NY - Columbia, NYU - can be done over weekends. I think schools in NE like Dartmouth and Cornell should only be visited in winter. The April visits are very deceptive.
It does tend to be advantageous to apply ED. But only do so to a school where you really want to go. Often it just clicks when you visit. And look at where this year's seniors are getting in. That will give you sense of patterns and possibilities.
Op here. Thanks. This is the kind of straightforward (blunt!) advice I needed.
Sorry - more bad news.. my DD at a big 3 had a similar profile to your daughter and was rejected early from a second tier Ivy and we were hooked. Also FORGET Duke or Brown. Unless your child is hooked no one is getting in and even then not a guarantee.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP again. We don't have access to Naviance/SCOIR data yet. Assuming that HYPSM's are generally super top (close to 4.0 kids) and folks with solid academics and legacy/donor and/or URM type status? If so, is it best for DC to just forget about HYPSM?
Would not waste time with HYPSM. MIT is not happening. And without a significant hook, neither is HYPS.
But the stats are good enough for anywhere else. Make sure those ECs also demonstrate leadership. Sounds like she is more inclined to go to a university rather than a LAC. Spend spring break visiting campuses to get a better sense of fit and what she might like. Maybe go South - Duke, Vanderbilt, WashU. Or to the Midwest - Northwestern, Chicago, Michigan, Notre Dame. Schools in PA - Penn - and NY - Columbia, NYU - can be done over weekends. I think schools in NE like Dartmouth and Cornell should only be visited in winter. The April visits are very deceptive.
It does tend to be advantageous to apply ED. But only do so to a school where you really want to go. Often it just clicks when you visit. And look at where this year's seniors are getting in. That will give you sense of patterns and possibilities.
Op here. Thanks. This is the kind of straightforward (blunt!) advice I needed.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Judging from friends’ experiences with their DCs, NMSF doesn’t mean much compared to rest of application
NMSF really doesn't mean anything. And given that schools don't seem to care much about the difference between 1530 and 1570 SAT, why should they care about the NSMF?
Why do you stop at 1570 SAT? Does it make more of a difference if it's over 1570? Just curious.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not uncommon to hear a kid from these schools doing EDI at an ivy and when that doesn’t work go ED2 at UChicago. UChicago seems to really likes kids with this profile and it seems to be better than waiting on an RD that’s not likely to happen.
If DC likes Chicago, this strategy makes the most sense.
Anonymous wrote:Not uncommon to hear a kid from these schools doing EDI at an ivy and when that doesn’t work go ED2 at UChicago. UChicago seems to really likes kids with this profile and it seems to be better than waiting on an RD that’s not likely to happen.
Anonymous wrote:I personally believe after 1500 it does not matter. It is your whole application that matters and your connections.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Judging from friends’ experiences with their DCs, NMSF doesn’t mean much compared to rest of application
NMSF really doesn't mean anything. And given that schools don't seem to care much about the difference between 1530 and 1570 SAT, why should they care about the NSMF?
Anonymous wrote:Not recruited just looked good on the application. He did not want to play competitive sport in college
Anonymous wrote:Very similar GPA and SAT score of 1540
And very competitive in one individual sport
Ed1 Columbia got deferred, no hook
ED2 u Chicago, he got in.