Anonymous wrote:Maybe Pitzer

Pitzer as a safety?

Washington College

Anonymous wrote:I would consider Skidmore.

+1 for skidmore

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why folks think Haverford is too much of a reach for this kid? My junior DS is very interested in H, has 1510, is top 5% of class. Is it too reach-y for him?

Has a good shot if he applies ED.

People will still call it a reach because it's a reach for everyone because of low acceptance rates and holistic review. Your DS sounds like he would have a good shot ED, but it's still not a sure thing.

Haverford gives a small full pay bump.

How the hell do you know?

Yikes.

Np but my understanding from Haverford is that although it was a controversial move on campus, it’s used only on the margins as they finalize their class and ensure they have enough financial aid dollars.

A quick google search revealed reporting from Inside Higher Ed:
“ The college will evaluate all applicants as it has in the past (at least for those from the U.S.), without regard to financial need. The college will also determine the size of its financial aid budget for the year. And as long as there is money in the budget, the college will admit applicants as it has done in the past. But the college projects that it will run out of aid money before admitting the entire class and that the last 10-15 students admitted (at a college that typically enrolls about 350 freshmen) will be those who can be admitted without going outside the aid budget.

Haverford officials stress that, some years, there may be enough money so that all of those admitted are selected without going to what is called need-aware admissions.”

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why folks think Haverford is too much of a reach for this kid? My junior DS is very interested in H, has 1510, is top 5% of class. Is it too reach-y for him?

Has a good shot if he applies ED.

People will still call it a reach because it's a reach for everyone because of low acceptance rates and holistic review. Your DS sounds like he would have a good shot ED, but it's still not a sure thing.

Haverford gives a small full pay bump.

How the hell do you know?

Dp, but I assume the pp was referring to the fact that Haverford is need aware, not need blind

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why folks think Haverford is too much of a reach for this kid? My junior DS is very interested in H, has 1510, is top 5% of class. Is it too reach-y for him?

Do you guys have Naviance? At our affluent public school a very top kid might get in every few years, but because it is a tiny school overall, very top kids more commonly get rejected. Hav is small even by SLAC standards. The class of 2025 is 49% people of color. 11% first gen. They admit less than a thousand kids for a class of about 400. They also need to field sports teams. I am not saying it is impossible but there are just not a lot of slots.

The kid in question has a great ACT, a 4.2 (good but not s standout gpa), and no/minimal ECs. I do not think it is likely based on that info.

I am surprised by the 49% people of color. Are other SLAC this diverse?

Many selective ones are

Yes. It is a huge priority for many SLACS, especially in recent years. Amherst is also 49% students of color, and 17% first gen. Bowdoin is 42% (and that’s in an area that might be less appealing for students of color). 21% are first gen.

This is why SLACS are a hard admit if your child is neither first gen nor a person of color nor a recruited athlete nor applying ED.

Curious where you think a male who is half Asian half Caucasian fits in. We are being told by our school counselor to use the mixed race option to increase chances - but they said he could technically choose any of the three options (white,Caucasian, mixed).

It doesn't matter what you chose, this info won’t be shared with colleges before they make an admission decision as a result of the Supreme Court decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why folks think Haverford is too much of a reach for this kid? My junior DS is very interested in H, has 1510, is top 5% of class. Is it too reach-y for him?

Has a good shot if he applies ED.

People will still call it a reach because it's a reach for everyone because of low acceptance rates and holistic review. Your DS sounds like he would have a good shot ED, but it's still not a sure thing.

Haverford gives a small full pay bump.

How the hell do you know?

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why folks think Haverford is too much of a reach for this kid? My junior DS is very interested in H, has 1510, is top 5% of class. Is it too reach-y for him?

Do you guys have Naviance? At our affluent public school a very top kid might get in every few years, but because it is a tiny school overall, very top kids more commonly get rejected. Hav is small even by SLAC standards. The class of 2025 is 49% people of color. 11% first gen. They admit less than a thousand kids for a class of about 400. They also need to field sports teams. I am not saying it is impossible but there are just not a lot of slots.

The kid in question has a great ACT, a 4.2 (good but not s standout gpa), and no/minimal ECs. I do not think it is likely based on that info.

I am surprised by the 49% people of color. Are other SLAC this diverse?

Many selective ones are

Yes. It is a huge priority for many SLACS, especially in recent years. Amherst is also 49% students of color, and 17% first gen. Bowdoin is 42% (and that’s in an area that might be less appealing for students of color). 21% are first gen.

This is why SLACS are a hard admit if your child is neither first gen nor a person of color nor a recruited athlete nor applying ED.

Curious where you think a male who is half Asian half Caucasian fits in. We are being told by our school counselor to use the mixed race option to increase chances - but they said he could technically choose any of the three options (white,Caucasian, mixed).

you should obviously say he is mixed race because he is.

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why folks think Haverford is too much of a reach for this kid? My junior DS is very interested in H, has 1510, is top 5% of class. Is it too reach-y for him?

Do you guys have Naviance? At our affluent public school a very top kid might get in every few years, but because it is a tiny school overall, very top kids more commonly get rejected. Hav is small even by SLAC standards. The class of 2025 is 49% people of color. 11% first gen. They admit less than a thousand kids for a class of about 400. They also need to field sports teams. I am not saying it is impossible but there are just not a lot of slots.

The kid in question has a great ACT, a 4.2 (good but not s standout gpa), and no/minimal ECs. I do not think it is likely based on that info.

I am surprised by the 49% people of color. Are other SLAC this diverse?

Many selective ones are

Yes. It is a huge priority for many SLACS, especially in recent years. Amherst is also 49% students of color, and 17% first gen. Bowdoin is 42% (and that’s in an area that might be less appealing for students of color). 21% are first gen.

This is why SLACS are a hard admit if your child is neither first gen nor a person of color nor a recruited athlete nor applying ED.

Curious where you think a male who is half Asian half Caucasian fits in. We are being told by our school counselor to use the mixed race option to increase chances - but they said he could technically choose any of the three options (white,Caucasian, mixed).

Is there still an “option” to choose from given the SCOTUS decision?

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why folks think Haverford is too much of a reach for this kid? My junior DS is very interested in H, has 1510, is top 5% of class. Is it too reach-y for him?

Do you guys have Naviance? At our affluent public school a very top kid might get in every few years, but because it is a tiny school overall, very top kids more commonly get rejected. Hav is small even by SLAC standards. The class of 2025 is 49% people of color. 11% first gen. They admit less than a thousand kids for a class of about 400. They also need to field sports teams. I am not saying it is impossible but there are just not a lot of slots.

The kid in question has a great ACT, a 4.2 (good but not s standout gpa), and no/minimal ECs. I do not think it is likely based on that info.

I am surprised by the 49% people of color. Are other SLAC this diverse?

Many selective ones are

Yes. It is a huge priority for many SLACS, especially in recent years. Amherst is also 49% students of color, and 17% first gen. Bowdoin is 42% (and that’s in an area that might be less appealing for students of color). 21% are first gen.

This is why SLACS are a hard admit if your child is neither first gen nor a person of color nor a recruited athlete nor applying ED.

Curious where you think a male who is half Asian half Caucasian fits in. We are being told by our school counselor to use the mixed race option to increase chances - but they said he could technically choose any of the three options (white,Caucasian, mixed).

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why folks think Haverford is too much of a reach for this kid? My junior DS is very interested in H, has 1510, is top 5% of class. Is it too reach-y for him?

Do you guys have Naviance? At our affluent public school a very top kid might get in every few years, but because it is a tiny school overall, very top kids more commonly get rejected. Hav is small even by SLAC standards. The class of 2025 is 49% people of color. 11% first gen. They admit less than a thousand kids for a class of about 400. They also need to field sports teams. I am not saying it is impossible but there are just not a lot of slots.

The kid in question has a great ACT, a 4.2 (good but not s standout gpa), and no/minimal ECs. I do not think it is likely based on that info.

I am surprised by the 49% people of color. Are other SLAC this diverse?

Many selective ones are

Yes. It is a huge priority for many SLACS, especially in recent years. Amherst is also 49% students of color, and 17% first gen. Bowdoin is 42% (and that’s in an area that might be less appealing for students of color). 21% are first gen.

This is why SLACS are a hard admit if your child is neither first gen nor a person of color nor a recruited athlete nor applying ED.

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why folks think Haverford is too much of a reach for this kid? My junior DS is very interested in H, has 1510, is top 5% of class. Is it too reach-y for him?

Has a good shot if he applies ED.

People will still call it a reach because it's a reach for everyone because of low acceptance rates and holistic review. Your DS sounds like he would have a good shot ED, but it's still not a sure thing.

Haverford gives a small full pay bump.

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why folks think Haverford is too much of a reach for this kid? My junior DS is very interested in H, has 1510, is top 5% of class. Is it too reach-y for him?

Do you guys have Naviance? At our affluent public school a very top kid might get in every few years, but because it is a tiny school overall, very top kids more commonly get rejected. Hav is small even by SLAC standards. The class of 2025 is 49% people of color. 11% first gen. They admit less than a thousand kids for a class of about 400. They also need to field sports teams. I am not saying it is impossible but there are just not a lot of slots.

The kid in question has a great ACT, a 4.2 (good but not s standout gpa), and no/minimal ECs. I do not think it is likely based on that info.

I am surprised by the 49% people of color. Are other SLAC this diverse?

Many selective ones are

Anonymous wrote:Maybe Pitzer

Not a safety and needs to demonstrate interest in social justice

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why folks think Haverford is too much of a reach for this kid? My junior DS is very interested in H, has 1510, is top 5% of class. Is it too reach-y for him?

Do you guys have Naviance? At our affluent public school a very top kid might get in every few years, but because it is a tiny school overall, very top kids more commonly get rejected. Hav is small even by SLAC standards. The class of 2025 is 49% people of color. 11% first gen. They admit less than a thousand kids for a class of about 400. They also need to field sports teams. I am not saying it is impossible but there are just not a lot of slots.

The kid in question has a great ACT, a 4.2 (good but not s standout gpa), and no/minimal ECs. I do not think it is likely based on that info.

I am surprised by the 49% people of color. Are other SLAC this diverse?