Anonymous
10/26/2023 10:02
Subject: Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ID'd as Robert Card. That's the shooter's name.
My joking sympathies to all of the other Robert Cards whose lives are going to be very annoying briefly.
My real sympathies to the families of the deceased and injured. I’m sorry that the GOP loves its gun money more than it appreciates a safe healthy populace.
And more sympathies to thousands of people who are tonight remembering their mass shooting experiences and wondering where their loved ones would be now. May PTSD flares be brief and may good memories comfort them.
Stop it. This is not the time to be talking about gun control, not when people are so emotional.
SCOTUS has clarified that gun ownership is an inalienable right and that using your gun is protected free speech. Democrats always scream for gun control after events like these because they know it’s REPUBLICANS, namely MAGA, who own the vast majority of guns and ammo in America. Asking President Trump and the GOP to support gun control is really asking them to unilaterally disarm. It makes no sense to hand the Democrats such a victory, when gun-aided speech is literally and figuratively MAGA’s Trump card for 2024.
It seems to be never the time to talk about gun control.
Why would gun control ever happen? You can shoot up a classroom full of 8 year olds at Sandy Hook and nothing changes. This is just a regular weekday event here. I'm surprised it is national news at this point. Routine American life.
This made the news because a lot of political and media elites vacation often in Maine
No, this made the news because more than a dozen people were murdered at random. That still makes the news wherever it is.
Anonymous
Anonymous
10/26/2023 09:55
Subject: Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ID'd as Robert Card. That's the shooter's name.
My joking sympathies to all of the other Robert Cards whose lives are going to be very annoying briefly.
My real sympathies to the families of the deceased and injured. I’m sorry that the GOP loves its gun money more than it appreciates a safe healthy populace.
And more sympathies to thousands of people who are tonight remembering their mass shooting experiences and wondering where their loved ones would be now. May PTSD flares be brief and may good memories comfort them.
Stop it. This is not the time to be talking about gun control, not when people are so emotional.
SCOTUS has clarified that gun ownership is an inalienable right and that using your gun is protected free speech. Democrats always scream for gun control after events like these because they know it’s REPUBLICANS, namely MAGA, who own the vast majority of guns and ammo in America. Asking President Trump and the GOP to support gun control is really asking them to unilaterally disarm. It makes no sense to hand the Democrats such a victory, when gun-aided speech is literally and figuratively MAGA’s Trump card for 2024.
It seems to be never the time to talk about gun control.
Why would gun control ever happen? You can shoot up a classroom full of 8 year olds at Sandy Hook and nothing changes. This is just a regular weekday event here. I'm surprised it is national news at this point. Routine American life.
This made the news because a lot of political and media elites vacation often in Maine
Anonymous
10/26/2023 09:52
Subject: Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of comments here and elsewhere about mental health. Well before the point of needing/hoping a mental health professional can derail this type of situation, something within our society is causing unbelievable levels of mental instability in a sizable number of individuals. Why?
There have always been crazy people. They didn't have AR 15s and we didn't have instant mass media.
Also, many of them were medicated and hospitalized for life with no access to weapons of any kind. Consequently, many of them weren't becoming parents and passing on their genetic makeup or attempting to raise children.
Take it up with Reagan.
OMG Reagan was FORTY years ago. You can't blame him forever. There's been plenty of time to change if that's what would help.
He closed down all of the Federal mental health facilities that spurred the homeless crisis we have today. Decisions have consequences. Unless or until the government gets back into the business of housing the chronic and profoundly mentally ill, they have no where else to go.
It's handy to blame Reagan but his actions were by consensus. He just put his name on it.
If we go back to institutions, will they be better than the last ones? Do you know anything about these sorts of institutions, then or now?
Anonymous
10/26/2023 09:50
Subject: Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I want to know what it will take to f**king ban gun ownership.
Tell me what it's going to take.
Sandy Hook didn’t change anything, nothing will. I gave up then. I had no connection to the families except that I was a parent too and I was traumatized. Americans suck.
Amen, if that didn’t change the tide nothing will.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 09:50
Subject: Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of comments here and elsewhere about mental health. Well before the point of needing/hoping a mental health professional can derail this type of situation, something within our society is causing unbelievable levels of mental instability in a sizable number of individuals. Why?
There have always been crazy people. They didn't have AR 15s and we didn't have instant mass media.
Also, many of them were medicated and hospitalized for life with no access to weapons of any kind. Consequently, many of them weren't becoming parents and passing on their genetic makeup or attempting to raise children.
Take it up with Reagan.
OMG Reagan was FORTY years ago. You can't blame him forever. There's been plenty of time to change if that's what would help.
He closed down all of the Federal mental health facilities that spurred the homeless crisis we have today. Decisions have consequences. Unless or until the government gets back into the business of housing the chronic and profoundly mentally ill, they have no where else to go.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 09:50
Subject: Re:Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Abortion is not addressed in the Constitution.
It was for a time and then SCOTUS changed and it wasn't.
Abortion was NEVER in the Constitution. PERIOD.
That’s bc it essentially didn’t exist.
Just like ar15s didn’t.
Tackle it at the state level or amend the Constitution, legally.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 09:50
Subject: Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME
Anonymous wrote:Crap my sister and family are there.
Same. I was just telling her that even though Lewiston is a more dangerous city for Maine, nationally it’s very safe. This sort of flaunts that.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 09:38
Subject: Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of comments here and elsewhere about mental health. Well before the point of needing/hoping a mental health professional can derail this type of situation, something within our society is causing unbelievable levels of mental instability in a sizable number of individuals. Why?
There have always been crazy people. They didn't have AR 15s and we didn't have instant mass media.
Also, many of them were medicated and hospitalized for life with no access to weapons of any kind. Consequently, many of them weren't becoming parents and passing on their genetic makeup or attempting to raise children.
x100000
Agree. We need (many) more mental health institutions that can house and care for people long term, possibly lifetime, and involuntary commitment needs to be easier. They are way way too many mentally unstable people. They can be dangerous with anything, not just guns. Making assault rifles harder to get would help too, but that isn’t the solution. There are too many in circulation already.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 09:36
Subject: Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of comments here and elsewhere about mental health. Well before the point of needing/hoping a mental health professional can derail this type of situation, something within our society is causing unbelievable levels of mental instability in a sizable number of individuals. Why?
There have always been crazy people. They didn't have AR 15s and we didn't have instant mass media.
Also, many of them were medicated and hospitalized for life with no access to weapons of any kind. Consequently, many of them weren't becoming parents and passing on their genetic makeup or attempting to raise children.
Take it up with Reagan.
OMG Reagan was FORTY years ago. You can't blame him forever. There's been plenty of time to change if that's what would help.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 09:34
Subject: Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher in Maine and our schools are closed, even an hour and a half away. It’s a small state, population wise, and this will reverberate all over. We no have so many former students who attend Bates and live near the area. Sad and scared. Really hope they catch this guy soon.
Hugs. Hoping the same. My niece is home from school today.
In Maine as well (about hour from Lewiston) and our schools also closed. Hope you stay safe. I'm glad they are keeping kids/staff home today while this unfolds. Hugs.
Hugs to you both. -PP
Anonymous
10/26/2023 09:33
Subject: Re:Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Serious question — how many people personally affected by mass shootings still prescribe to this rhetoric? Do they change their tune when gun violence comes to their town or school? It just seems easy to say this stuff when you don’t truly think it will happen to you.
Has Steve Scalise changed his tune?
No. He hasn't.
Gabby Giffords continues to advocate for increased gun control - not sure what her stance was before the shooting though.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 09:32
Subject: Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME
Anonymous wrote:The irony is that there are a lot of 2A Republicans in Lewiston and even more in the surrounding rural area. It’s a very purple area - they voted for Biden in 2020 but sent Collins back to the Senate. Very white, lots of guns, but no one seemed to be able to do anything to stop this psychopath.
That’s often the truth in these mass shooter situations. Everyone likes to think they’re Rambo and will be the good guy with a gun that saves the day, but when push comes to shove and fantasy becomes reality, they lose their wits and don’t stand a chance. When are these people going to realize that people train for years for these situations and still crap their pants in the moment?
Anonymous
10/26/2023 09:32
Subject: Re:Huge mass shooting incident in Lewiston, ME
Anonymous wrote:
Serious question — how many people personally affected by mass shootings still prescribe to this rhetoric? Do they change their tune when gun violence comes to their town or school? It just seems easy to say this stuff when you don’t truly think it will happen to you.
Has Steve Scalise changed his tune?