Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 22:00     Subject: RFK Jr. Running as independent

Anonymous wrote:Confused. Is this rfk spoiler campaign supposed to spoil for Biden or trump?


Pretty sure the intent is for it to hurt Biden but the only people I've ever heard talking favorably about RFK Jr are Republicans so this may well backfire on its architects.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 21:55     Subject: RFK Jr. Running as independent

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find him compelling.

He wants to scale back the military-industrial complex and reduce our involvement in foreign conflicts.

He has a tremendous record of environmentalism.

He is anti-mandate. Most people are not "anti-vaxxers", they are concerned about the government coercion involved with the covid vax.


Our corporations and economy depend on a stable global order. If the US isn't acting as the leader in maintaining that order in the form of helping countries affirm the integrity of their borders and having enough force to minimize the threat of domestic terrorism, no one else will. The result is a netowrk of strongment who actin a a borderless manner to rule. We are already seeing that emerge in Russia, China, Iran and North Korea, where those countries are taking land and threatening their neighbors through aggression.

So yes, in a perfect world with benevolent leaders everywhere, it would be great to reduce the defense spending and reduce the impact of the miltary-industrial complex. We don't live in a perfect world.



+1. The first PP was me as recently as 4-5 years ago. Oof, how naive I was. The above PP is spot on. And I’d add our personal safety and wellbeing to that list. This is where we are and what must be, no matter how much we wish it weren’t so.


The huge portion of America who is being left behind in current system that protects the profitability of our corporations at the expense of our middle class is DONE with the globalization and endless immoral military conflicts that preserve American hegemony.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 21:51     Subject: Re:RFK Jr. Running as independent

Anonymous wrote:


Light on the details but overall positive vision for the future and completely correct take that Americans are done with being manipulated through fear.

Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 21:24     Subject: RFK Jr. Running as independent

Anonymous wrote:Getting kennedyized version of maga American carnage from that. That is another make America great again for white guys view. Things are a lot better than the good old days for minorities, women, lgbqt folks. A lot.

Yes there are loads of problems but throwing the election to trump with your spoiler campaign is a terrible solution and we are on to you.

I’ll wait for a transcript. I’ve had enough of listening to Republicans ramble.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 20:25     Subject: RFK Jr. Running as independent

Getting kennedyized version of maga American carnage from that. That is another make America great again for white guys view. Things are a lot better than the good old days for minorities, women, lgbqt folks. A lot.

Yes there are loads of problems but throwing the election to trump with your spoiler campaign is a terrible solution and we are on to you.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 19:46     Subject: Re:RFK Jr. Running as independent

Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 10:17     Subject: RFK Jr. Running as independent

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find him compelling.

He wants to scale back the military-industrial complex and reduce our involvement in foreign conflicts.

He has a tremendous record of environmentalism.

He is anti-mandate. Most people are not "anti-vaxxers", they are concerned about the government coercion involved with the covid vax.


Our corporations and economy depend on a stable global order. If the US isn't acting as the leader in maintaining that order in the form of helping countries affirm the integrity of their borders and having enough force to minimize the threat of domestic terrorism, no one else will. The result is a netowrk of strongment who actin a a borderless manner to rule. We are already seeing that emerge in Russia, China, Iran and North Korea, where those countries are taking land and threatening their neighbors through aggression.

So yes, in a perfect world with benevolent leaders everywhere, it would be great to reduce the defense spending and reduce the impact of the miltary-industrial complex. We don't live in a perfect world.



+1. The first PP was me as recently as 4-5 years ago. Oof, how naive I was. The above PP is spot on. And I’d add our personal safety and wellbeing to that list. This is where we are and what must be, no matter how much we wish it weren’t so.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 09:40     Subject: RFK Jr. Running as independent

I think it is a campaign designed to foment discord and chaos. The list of likely sources is short.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 09:03     Subject: RFK Jr. Running as independent

Anonymous wrote:He demanded his children (entirely) in the divorce proceeding and broke her down. First wife was caught off guard by the whole thing. According to siblings and family member accounts, RFK Jr was a horrible human being in those years. She felt ganged up on by the family.

He also cheated on her relentlessly with dozens of women and wrote all about it in a journal for her to find. Expect to hear more about this.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 08:44     Subject: RFK Jr. Running as independent

Confused. Is this rfk spoiler campaign supposed to spoil for Biden or trump?
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 08:03     Subject: Re:RFK Jr. Running as independent

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh good lord


To be fair, Jesse Ventura was elected governor of Minnesota that once


Ok but the presidency of something happened to rfk? No.

And speaking as a Minnesotan, Ventura was something of a Trumpesque loose cannon. I wouldn’t like to return to that.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 01:22     Subject: RFK Jr. Running as independent

This.

https://nypost.com/2012/05/20/rfk-jr-rejects-blame-during-eulogy-at-wife-mary-richardson-kennedys-funeral/

I have had friends with parents who committed suicide. Or a sibling. It’s not common at all to blab about it during the eulogy. He is a bizarre person.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 01:18     Subject: RFK Jr. Running as independent

He demanded his children (entirely) in the divorce proceeding and broke her down. First wife was caught off guard by the whole thing. According to siblings and family member accounts, RFK Jr was a horrible human being in those years. She felt ganged up on by the family.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 01:13     Subject: RFK Jr. Running as independent

*Sorry RFK Jr (not “J”)
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2024 01:13     Subject: RFK Jr. Running as independent

What happened to JFK’s first wife? Yikes. I did a deep internet dive and her siblings (all accomplished professionals) HATE him. Publically. They didn’t attend the funeral he put on. He wanted out and turned the legal (and emotional) screws on her.

Geez. Not pretty.