Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My daughter and all her friends wore short dresses, and they all wore mini-biker shorts underneath. NBD.
Same. Some bitter old biddies on this thread.
Or just moms who actually parent and care about the well-being and confidence of their girls? We don't pimp our girls out as pre-teens.
Are you saying your daughter has confidence issues? I am glad you admitted that. In that case, I agree she should not wear a little mini dress!! Many of our daughters feel confident and comfortable wearing short homecoming dresses.
I live in a warm climate and kids wear shorts, tank tops, halters all the time. Plus, bathing suits and bikinis the whole summer. There is not the sense one should cover up her body. Perhaps it’s cultural, I don’t know, but please don’t extract your situation and apply it to others.
Your DD can wear whatever she likes. What most PPs are saying is that we are all judged for what we wear and teen girls are no exception. I see a teen girl dressed per your description and I usually think that they are vapid and don't have much to offer. In my experience, that has not been far off the mark and I've told my DD that you can usually tell which girls have something to offer and those that don't. If you're wrapped up in selling yourself as a sexual object don't be surprised when you are not viewed as anything else. The idea is to try to instill a greater sense of self worth for young girls and promote the idea that they have a purpose beyond male attention seeking. No one has said to cover your entire body. We're not pushing burkas. But the masses seem to think that the Kim Kardashians of this world are a great role model for girls and that's precisely the issue. Girls (and their mothers) support the notion that women have no place in this world unless you've sold yourself half naked. Shame.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for girls nowadays who feel pressure to look “hot” vs “classy”.
I’m trying to teach my DD that you can be stylish and fashionable without showing T&A.
If you don’t want to be objectified, don’t put all of your objects on display.
Most of these girls by me are wearing very un-sexy clothes the rest of the time. Oversized giant sweatshirts and shirts that cover shorts. They look totally different one night for homecoming, but the rest of the time its giant shirts, pajama bottoms, and sloppy hair. So what if they want to get glammed up one night a year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for girls nowadays who feel pressure to look “hot” vs “classy”.
I’m trying to teach my DD that you can be stylish and fashionable without showing T&A.
If you don’t want to be objectified, don’t put all of your objects on display.
Most of these girls by me are wearing very un-sexy clothes the rest of the time. Oversized giant sweatshirts and shirts that cover shorts. They look totally different one night for homecoming, but the rest of the time it’s giant shirts, pajama bottoms, and sloppy hair. So what if they want to get glammed up one night a year?
Glammed up doesn’t have to mean revealing.
I wonder why the men and boys aren’t racing to attend formal events in their underclothes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for girls nowadays who feel pressure to look “hot” vs “classy”.
I’m trying to teach my DD that you can be stylish and fashionable without showing T&A.
If you don’t want to be objectified, don’t put all of your objects on display.
Most of these girls by me are wearing very un-sexy clothes the rest of the time. Oversized giant sweatshirts and shirts that cover shorts. They look totally different one night for homecoming, but the rest of the time it’s giant shirts, pajama bottoms, and sloppy hair. So what if they want to get glammed up one night a year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As many parents are out there who judge girls for wearing very skimpy clothing, there are equal numbers of parents who judge their girls for *not* dressing up in whatever is fashionable or sexy.
It's lose-lose if you are a girl. We don't do this to our boys.
This is just not true. EVERYONE is judged on how they look, including adults and children. If you wear a polished suit and present yourself professionally, you are given more deference than a disheveled person who cannot muster a clean appearance. Boys, likewise, are judged whether they are fat or thin, wearing designer clothes or tattered rags, or presenting too urban. If a boy came into class with baggy pants showing his underwear, gold chains, skinhead, goth gear, or any other trend, society at large would make assumptions about their education, class, and background.
I won't hire someone who cannot dress professional for in-person or zoom whether it be male or female. The idea that ONLY females are judged is such nonsense. It just so happens that females are the most likely of the two sexes to be dressed half naked, which makes this issue come up more often. I don't know any men who dress in short shorts, tank tops, or clothes with holes in it. No heels, makeup, plastic surgery lifts or implants. These trends are all female promoted by females.
I won't hire someone who can't use adverbs.
And I won’t hire someone who says things like “presenting too urban.”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for girls nowadays who feel pressure to look “hot” vs “classy”.
I’m trying to teach my DD that you can be stylish and fashionable without showing T&A.
If you don’t want to be objectified, don’t put all of your objects on display.
Most of these girls by me are wearing very un-sexy clothes the rest of the time. Oversized giant sweatshirts and shirts that cover shorts. They look totally different one night for homecoming, but the rest of the time its giant shirts, pajama bottoms, and sloppy hair. So what if they want to get glammed up one night a year?
They can look glam without looking like streetwalkers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My daughter and all her friends wore short dresses, and they all wore mini-biker shorts underneath. NBD.
Same. Some bitter old biddies on this thread.
Or just moms who actually parent and care about the well-being and confidence of their girls? We don't pimp our girls out as pre-teens.
Are you saying your daughter has confidence issues? I am glad you admitted that. In that case, I agree she should not wear a little mini dress!! Many of our daughters feel confident and comfortable wearing short homecoming dresses.
I live in a warm climate and kids wear shorts, tank tops, halters all the time. Plus, bathing suits and bikinis the whole summer. There is not the sense one should cover up her body. Perhaps it’s cultural, I don’t know, but please don’t extract your situation and apply it to others.
Your DD can wear whatever she likes. What most PPs are saying is that we are all judged for what we wear and teen girls are no exception. I see a teen girl dressed per your description and I usually think that they are vapid and don't have much to offer. In my experience, that has not been far off the mark and I've told my DD that you can usually tell which girls have something to offer and those that don't. If you're wrapped up in selling yourself as a sexual object don't be surprised when you are not viewed as anything else. The idea is to try to instill a greater sense of self worth for young girls and promote the idea that they have a purpose beyond male attention seeking. No one has said to cover your entire body. We're not pushing burkas. But the masses seem to think that the Kim Kardashians of this world are a great role model for girls and that's precisely the issue. Girls (and their mothers) support the notion that women have no place in this world unless you've sold yourself half naked. Shame.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for girls nowadays who feel pressure to look “hot” vs “classy”.
I’m trying to teach my DD that you can be stylish and fashionable without showing T&A.
If you don’t want to be objectified, don’t put all of your objects on display.
Most of these girls by me are wearing very un-sexy clothes the rest of the time. Oversized giant sweatshirts and shirts that cover shorts. They look totally different one night for homecoming, but the rest of the time its giant shirts, pajama bottoms, and sloppy hair. So what if they want to get glammed up one night a year?
Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for girls nowadays who feel pressure to look “hot” vs “classy”.
I’m trying to teach my DD that you can be stylish and fashionable without showing T&A.
If you don’t want to be objectified, don’t put all of your objects on display.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My daughter and all her friends wore short dresses, and they all wore mini-biker shorts underneath. NBD.
Same. Some bitter old biddies on this thread.
Or just moms who actually parent and care about the well-being and confidence of their girls? We don't pimp our girls out as pre-teens.
Are you saying your daughter has confidence issues? I am glad you admitted that. In that case, I agree she should not wear a little mini dress!! Many of our daughters feel confident and comfortable wearing short homecoming dresses.
I live in a warm climate and kids wear shorts, tank tops, halters all the time. Plus, bathing suits and bikinis the whole summer. There is not the sense one should cover up her body. Perhaps it’s cultural, I don’t know, but please don’t extract your situation and apply it to others.
Your DD can wear whatever she likes. What most PPs are saying is that we are all judged for what we wear and teen girls are no exception. I see a teen girl dressed per your description and I usually think that they are vapid and don't have much to offer. In my experience, that has not been far off the mark and I've told my DD that you can usually tell which girls have something to offer and those that don't. If you're wrapped up in selling yourself as a sexual object don't be surprised when you are not viewed as anything else. The idea is to try to instill a greater sense of self worth for young girls and promote the idea that they have a purpose beyond male attention seeking. No one has said to cover your entire body. We're not pushing burkas. But the masses seem to think that the Kim Kardashians of this world are a great role model for girls and that's precisely the issue. Girls (and their mothers) support the notion that women have no place in this world unless you've sold yourself half naked. Shame.