Anonymous
10/05/2023 19:12
Subject: What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My Favorites: Labradors, German Shepherds, and Dachshunds
Don’t like: Goldendoodles, Yorkies, and Poodles
Favorite: GS, Beagles, Yorkies, Bichon, Cavalier types. Most big dogs.
Dislike: Anything drooly, anything that sheds or poodles/poodle mixes.
Also, most pits are good - it is the owners of some dogs (big and small) that are awful and irresponsible.
So are you saying that pitts have such awful, irresponsible owners that mauling/killing is reasonable "misbehavior" from a dog?
I seriously doubt that these parents were so awful, they trained their pitts to kill their own children
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/tennessee-mom-in-hospital-after-trying-to-save-her-two-young-children-from-fatal-family-dog-mauling/
That the owners of this dog trained it to kill children?
https://people.com/florida-boy-mauled-death-pit-bull-mix-7560578
Or that the grandma trained this dog to kill her grandson?
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dog-kills-2-year-old-virginia-boy-in-maryland
If I were to be an "awful, irresponsible owner", and decide to stop training my dog for so long she decides to go on a rampage, she's likely to jump on the table and steal food, rummage through the trash, bark for way too long at random people that walk by my house, and chew my kids' toys. No matter how much I ignore her, or let her stop respecting boundaries, or neglect training her, she will not kill or maul people. I would never do that, but if I did she'd be horrible to live with, but she is not a killer. I don't have to train her to not maul people, just like those other owners did not have to train their pitts to kill their children. It is normal for untrained dogs to jump, bark, steal food, chase cars, chew toys, dig holes, etc... It is not normal for untrained dogs to kill/maim people, no matter how awful or irresponsible the owners are.
You'll never get a good faith response to this, though the stats don't lie. You'll get some BS about how a Golden Retriever can and will also rip 3 toddlers to shred and eat their corpses despite this happening...never.
And you won't be honest either. People misread dogs signs all the time. They say " they gave no warning sign" but they don't know them. Children under 10 are the most vulnerable.
Parents let their kids get away with mistreating animals...some dogs are more forgiving than others. But then thats on the owner for not training the kids, not keeping the dog safe. Or chosing the wrong dog.
At our block party two big kids were trying to ride their dog..I told them to stop.
Again, since "pit bull" mixes have alot of breeds what makes you so sure that you can blame the "pit" and not the other working dog breeds for the attack?
I don't care of the owners missed 100s of subtle "signs" from their dogs, you should not have to be a professional animal behaviorist to own a pet. If I missed behavior signals, or even chose to ignore those signals from my dog, she would eventually either retreat to her bed or she would be obnoxious. She'd steal food, she'd get over excited and jump on people, she'd refuse to respond to cues, she might even growl or bite. But she would never (and I 1000% guarantee this) maul or kill a child. She is not gamey, she has inherent bite inhibition, and ultimately she is a domestic pet from a line of domestic pets.
Dogs should also be giving a series of escalating "signals". A domestic pet should not go from lip licking, whale eyes, look aways, and yawns to mauling/killing. There is not a single parent that is telling their child to go snuggle with a growling, air snapping, hackles raised dog, let alone a dog that is biting, making contact with a person's body and releasing. By the time a dog is ready to maul and kill, they should have been giving off multiple "stay away", red zone, obvious behavior signs. We are not talking about a single bite from a stressed dog, we are talking about dogs that literally pull people apart. If pitbulls' danger signals are so subtle that people tend to misread them, and then the mauling/killing is a surprise, then these are not dogs that 99% of people should ever have in the house.
I am a pet owner. I am not a trainer. I am not an animal behaviorist but, I read and have taken my dog to obedience training from the age of 3 months. We do agility. We do tricks. He just got his AKC novice trick certificate. We have had private lessons because I want to know the best way to communicate with my dog. We have a great relationship. And he is a American pit bull terrier/Siberian husky mix .
If you choose to bring an animal in your home and don't know the signs that the dog does not like what you are doing than you are the problem. Dogs give signs all the time to other dogs when they are playing. If the dog is also well tuned in than the dog will understand the subtle signs so the dog does not have to escalate.
Example: Two dogs playing at a dog park. Two dogs are playing nicely or so it seems. Then one dog starts sniffing the ground or turning away. That is a sign the dog should stop playing and give the other dog a break. If the dog keeps knocking it over or continues to hump or harass then the dog will try "air' snapping. If that doesn't work than a fight might break out. This is why dog parks are a disaster.
I am talking about ALL dogs. If you don't want a "pit" bull that's fine but, please understand that dogs have rights too. It isn't cute when your kid puts stickers all over their body or pull their tails. This is basic information and if all dog owners knew this than more people wouldn't abandon their dogs.
Here is information from the AKC https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/advice/how-to-read-dog-body-language/
Anonymous
10/05/2023 15:20
Subject: Re:What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
^^ I am the previous poster. And I apologize for all the extra commas. I use voice text and I must pause when talking, which makes my voice texting feature add a comma.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 13:56
Subject: Re:What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Love poodles! Not doodles, good, old-fashioned poodles. I love the look of a German Shepherd, not the ones with the sloping back, but the ones that look more like a Belgian shepherd But I know that I don't have the skills to actually own one of those dogs.
Hate pit bulls, any pit-bull mix, and any of those other dogs that have a reputation of violence. Like Cane Corsos and like.
And for the poster, who seems intent on defending Pitt Bulls every time it came up in this thread, yes, even one percent pitt is too much for me. I am the poster that wants to eradicate them by attrition. If they are all spayed and neutered, no more pitt bull puppies. a very humane way to get rid of the breed. And one of the reasons that this breed in particular is being called out by me, is because of posters like you that no matter how dangerous they are, they want to share what lovely dogs they are. We don't get the same response from people who are German Shepherd or Doberman enthusiasts. They know that it takes a certain kind of owner to have one of those type of dogs. Pitbull owners are just over the top and think that anybody can own them. And that's why we have the problem we have with that breed. So blame yourself for making people hate the breed.
Hello. First of all, there is ONE t in pit. Second I'm sure in the past when Doberman or German Shepherds were/are being vilified they would strongly defend them. But, remember we didn't have the internet when they were seem as "bad" dogs so you can not compare my defending them.
Remember there are FIVE breeds that make up pit bull dogs. I think they are the only dog breed that has that many and with mixes you have many many more variations.
"Here are the five breeds: American pit bull terriers, Staffordshire terriers, American Bully, Staffordshire bull terriers and Staffordshire bull terriers .
https://www.thesprucepets.com/pitbull-dog-breeds-4843994pit bull" types now and then.
You have your first amendment right to say your opinion on how YOU hate the breeds and wish they weren't here BUT I also have the right to MY opinion and I will defend them. No where did I say that these dogs are for everyone. The same way German Shepherds are not for everyone. But, I am not for banning them or wishing they didn't exist. Remember your history. German Shepherds and Belgian Malinois were used as police dogs to attack Civil Right movement protesters and also by Nazis to attack Jews and other people. They have the right to exist as do "Pit bull' types and the mixes.
Are there dogs that attack and do serious harm to people, children and pets. Yes. But, first if a dog is 33 percent pit and other dogs that are "tough" German Shepherds etc how do you know that it isn't that part that makes them aggressive?
And lastly, poorly trained dogs and abused dogs can not be held responsible for what the humans put them through. If you chain your dog to the back yard, never feeding them or taking care of their physical or emotional needs and then train them to fight you cannot expect them to be animals that know how to live in harmony with the world.
So in the end while I have the ability to see that some animals harm other people etc there are good "pit bulls" who have been heroes. Your denial of this is just as stubborn as me defending them. So, as long as I can type I will say my opinion and defend these dogs.
I don't care if you respond but, you do not have the right to silence me.
the double 't' and its continued use after being corrected multiple times is just emblematic of their overall low threshold of information and critical thought.
Or their spell check auto changes it Regardless of how it us spelled, pit bulls are not appropriate pets. The pit in pit bull is because the dog was bred to fight in a pit. That is a fighting dog. Not a herder or any other type of working breed.
I have to say, based on this thread alone, the owners or enthusiasts match the dog breed.
But neither "Pitt" nor "Pitt Bull" or "Pittbull" are words so that doesn't explain it.
Like I said, low capacity of information and critical thought.
Due to their history, some can be aggressive toward dogs but human aggression was not only something that wasn't selected for, it was a trait that was avoided due to the nature of the "sport".
The fact that you are focused on spelling errors to prove a point about low capacity, thought yet are unable to understand that dog breeds provide people with behaviors they can expect from each dog breed based on the work, they were bred to do. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, pitbulls were bred to fight. Like a retriever is bred to have a soft mouth and to retrieve game. A terrier is bred to either kill rats, or to go into holes or whatever the particular breed it was bred for. Some toy dogs were bred simply to be lap dogs for the wealthy, great Pyrenees dogs were bred to be independent thinkers and guard livestock, a border collie was bred to herd livestock. And so on so a pitbull is just doing what it was bred to do. And that means it is not a pet. People are buying them as pets since dogfighting is illegal, as it should be. So that breed needs to be completely eradicated. There's no need to have a breed that is not bred for loyalty, not bred to do anything other than to fight, and to win a fight.
And who cares whether it is one T or two Ts? That is such an inconsequential thing to focus on. There's a whole thread in the off-topic section that might interest you where posters are sharing which words they have a difficult time, remembering how to spell.
Whatever the case, you are showing that you are as tenacious as the breed you are enthusiastic about. You are just as unlikable as the dogs you like.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 13:28
Subject: What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Favorites: Newfoundlands, Goldens and labs, Berners, st. Bernards. Big gentle dogs are the best!
Dislikes: anything doodle (poodles are fine, just not my cup of tea). Unfortunately some bad experiences have colored my opinion of pit and pit mixes as well.
Sad that a few dogs color your opinion on so many dogs! Guilty until proven innocent, right?
Nah, for pits it's more like, assume every one is a loaded gun and handle appropriately.
Profiling isnt cool. There is no such dog as a pitbull. How do you know it is the American lit bull terrier that madethe attack and not the chow or German Sheperd in them? And dont forget these dogs are the most abused
Don’t care. They are all useless dogs.
tell me what teacup yorkies do
They don’t murder people.
Ah but we are talking about how "useful" one is. You could have said the teacup Yorkies are useful for companion. Just like pit bulls. Btw, again humans murder and yet we don't condemn every human!
Here is a fair and balanced review of "pit bull" types: https://www.rover.com/blog/important-pit-bull-facts/
My pit bull mix ( also has Australian Shepherd) which can also have problems with socializations! Yes yes but, they don't MAUL anyone! But they can be problem dogs:
https://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/reviews/australianshepherds.html
Jobs that pit bulls have been used for therapy dogs, police dogs, dogs that sniff out bombs or drugs and members of the family/companion!
https://saveabull.com/pit-bulls-workforce
Don’t care. Pitbulls are ugly and dangerous.
+1
+1 no idea why anyone would want one.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 10:26
Subject: What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My Favorites: Labradors, German Shepherds, and Dachshunds
Don’t like: Goldendoodles, Yorkies, and Poodles
Favorite: GS, Beagles, Yorkies, Bichon, Cavalier types. Most big dogs.
Dislike: Anything drooly, anything that sheds or poodles/poodle mixes.
Also, most pits are good - it is the owners of some dogs (big and small) that are awful and irresponsible.
So are you saying that pitts have such awful, irresponsible owners that mauling/killing is reasonable "misbehavior" from a dog?
I seriously doubt that these parents were so awful, they trained their pitts to kill their own children
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/tennessee-mom-in-hospital-after-trying-to-save-her-two-young-children-from-fatal-family-dog-mauling/
That the owners of this dog trained it to kill children?
https://people.com/florida-boy-mauled-death-pit-bull-mix-7560578
Or that the grandma trained this dog to kill her grandson?
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dog-kills-2-year-old-virginia-boy-in-maryland
If I were to be an "awful, irresponsible owner", and decide to stop training my dog for so long she decides to go on a rampage, she's likely to jump on the table and steal food, rummage through the trash, bark for way too long at random people that walk by my house, and chew my kids' toys. No matter how much I ignore her, or let her stop respecting boundaries, or neglect training her, she will not kill or maul people. I would never do that, but if I did she'd be horrible to live with, but she is not a killer. I don't have to train her to not maul people, just like those other owners did not have to train their pitts to kill their children. It is normal for untrained dogs to jump, bark, steal food, chase cars, chew toys, dig holes, etc... It is not normal for untrained dogs to kill/maim people, no matter how awful or irresponsible the owners are.
You'll never get a good faith response to this, though the stats don't lie. You'll get some BS about how a Golden Retriever can and will also rip 3 toddlers to shred and eat their corpses despite this happening...never.
And you won't be honest either. People misread dogs signs all the time. They say " they gave no warning sign" but they don't know them. Children under 10 are the most vulnerable.
Parents let their kids get away with mistreating animals...some dogs are more forgiving than others. But then thats on the owner for not training the kids, not keeping the dog safe. Or chosing the wrong dog.
At our block party two big kids were trying to ride their dog..I told them to stop.
Again, since "pit bull" mixes have alot of breeds what makes you so sure that you can blame the "pit" and not the other working dog breeds for the attack?
I don't care of the owners missed 100s of subtle "signs" from their dogs, you should not have to be a professional animal behaviorist to own a pet. If I missed behavior signals, or even chose to ignore those signals from my dog, she would eventually either retreat to her bed or she would be obnoxious. She'd steal food, she'd get over excited and jump on people, she'd refuse to respond to cues, she might even growl or bite. But she would never (and I 1000% guarantee this) maul or kill a child. She is not gamey, she has inherent bite inhibition, and ultimately she is a domestic pet from a line of domestic pets.
Dogs should also be giving a series of escalating "signals". A domestic pet should not go from lip licking, whale eyes, look aways, and yawns to mauling/killing. There is not a single parent that is telling their child to go snuggle with a growling, air snapping, hackles raised dog, let alone a dog that is biting, making contact with a person's body and releasing. By the time a dog is ready to maul and kill, they should have been giving off multiple "stay away", red zone, obvious behavior signs. We are not talking about a single bite from a stressed dog, we are talking about dogs that literally pull people apart. If pitbulls' danger signals are so subtle that people tend to misread them, and then the mauling/killing is a surprise, then these are not dogs that 99% of people should ever have in the house.
+1 to all of this. Plus, people with dogs, including pits, do not just keep them in their homes. They take them out of the house, they walk them on the street, go to the park, to the dog park, etc. Unless you keep your dog sequestered at home, which almost no one does, you can't guarantee that they will only interact with people and other dogs who are skilled in recognizing that dog's signs and triggers.
There are so many pits and pit mixes in my neighborhood, and sometimes I even see them off leash, and it makes me so angry. I have a small child. She is extremely cautious around dogs but with a dog... you just never know. I was once attacked by a dog at someone else's house because I was in the kitchen washing dishes and the dog walked into the room, didn't recognize me, and attacked me. I didn't do anything to the dog, he was just reaction to "stranger in house." It was terrifying.
Yes, that dog's owner was to blame but trust me, when a dog is coming at you with their teeth, the fact that it's the owner's fault for failing to train, socialize, or restrain their dog properly doesn't matter. You're just scared for your life.
People should not be allowed to keep dogs as pets who are inclined to kill people. Full. Stop.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 10:20
Subject: Re:What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Love poodles! Not doodles, good, old-fashioned poodles. I love the look of a German Shepherd, not the ones with the sloping back, but the ones that look more like a Belgian shepherd But I know that I don't have the skills to actually own one of those dogs.
Hate pit bulls, any pit-bull mix, and any of those other dogs that have a reputation of violence. Like Cane Corsos and like.
And for the poster, who seems intent on defending Pitt Bulls every time it came up in this thread, yes, even one percent pitt is too much for me. I am the poster that wants to eradicate them by attrition. If they are all spayed and neutered, no more pitt bull puppies. a very humane way to get rid of the breed. And one of the reasons that this breed in particular is being called out by me, is because of posters like you that no matter how dangerous they are, they want to share what lovely dogs they are. We don't get the same response from people who are German Shepherd or Doberman enthusiasts. They know that it takes a certain kind of owner to have one of those type of dogs. Pitbull owners are just over the top and think that anybody can own them. And that's why we have the problem we have with that breed. So blame yourself for making people hate the breed.
Hello. First of all, there is ONE t in pit. Second I'm sure in the past when Doberman or German Shepherds were/are being vilified they would strongly defend them. But, remember we didn't have the internet when they were seem as "bad" dogs so you can not compare my defending them.
Remember there are FIVE breeds that make up pit bull dogs. I think they are the only dog breed that has that many and with mixes you have many many more variations.
"Here are the five breeds: American pit bull terriers, Staffordshire terriers, American Bully, Staffordshire bull terriers and Staffordshire bull terriers .
https://www.thesprucepets.com/pitbull-dog-breeds-4843994pit bull" types now and then.
You have your first amendment right to say your opinion on how YOU hate the breeds and wish they weren't here BUT I also have the right to MY opinion and I will defend them. No where did I say that these dogs are for everyone. The same way German Shepherds are not for everyone. But, I am not for banning them or wishing they didn't exist. Remember your history. German Shepherds and Belgian Malinois were used as police dogs to attack Civil Right movement protesters and also by Nazis to attack Jews and other people. They have the right to exist as do "Pit bull' types and the mixes.
Are there dogs that attack and do serious harm to people, children and pets. Yes. But, first if a dog is 33 percent pit and other dogs that are "tough" German Shepherds etc how do you know that it isn't that part that makes them aggressive?
And lastly, poorly trained dogs and abused dogs can not be held responsible for what the humans put them through. If you chain your dog to the back yard, never feeding them or taking care of their physical or emotional needs and then train them to fight you cannot expect them to be animals that know how to live in harmony with the world.
So in the end while I have the ability to see that some animals harm other people etc there are good "pit bulls" who have been heroes. Your denial of this is just as stubborn as me defending them. So, as long as I can type I will say my opinion and defend these dogs.
I don't care if you respond but, you do not have the right to silence me.
the double 't' and its continued use after being corrected multiple times is just emblematic of their overall low threshold of information and critical thought.
Or their spell check auto changes it Regardless of how it us spelled, pit bulls are not appropriate pets. The pit in pit bull is because the dog was bred to fight in a pit. That is a fighting dog. Not a herder or any other type of working breed.
I have to say, based on this thread alone, the owners or enthusiasts match the dog breed.
But neither "Pitt" nor "Pitt Bull" or "Pittbull" are words so that doesn't explain it.
Like I said, low capacity of information and critical thought.
Due to their history, some can be aggressive toward dogs but human aggression was not only something that wasn't selected for, it was a trait that was avoided due to the nature of the "sport".
Thank you, pp
Anonymous
10/05/2023 09:45
Subject: Re:What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Love poodles! Not doodles, good, old-fashioned poodles. I love the look of a German Shepherd, not the ones with the sloping back, but the ones that look more like a Belgian shepherd But I know that I don't have the skills to actually own one of those dogs.
Hate pit bulls, any pit-bull mix, and any of those other dogs that have a reputation of violence. Like Cane Corsos and like.
And for the poster, who seems intent on defending Pitt Bulls every time it came up in this thread, yes, even one percent pitt is too much for me. I am the poster that wants to eradicate them by attrition. If they are all spayed and neutered, no more pitt bull puppies. a very humane way to get rid of the breed. And one of the reasons that this breed in particular is being called out by me, is because of posters like you that no matter how dangerous they are, they want to share what lovely dogs they are. We don't get the same response from people who are German Shepherd or Doberman enthusiasts. They know that it takes a certain kind of owner to have one of those type of dogs. Pitbull owners are just over the top and think that anybody can own them. And that's why we have the problem we have with that breed. So blame yourself for making people hate the breed.
Hello. First of all, there is ONE t in pit. Second I'm sure in the past when Doberman or German Shepherds were/are being vilified they would strongly defend them. But, remember we didn't have the internet when they were seem as "bad" dogs so you can not compare my defending them.
Remember there are FIVE breeds that make up pit bull dogs. I think they are the only dog breed that has that many and with mixes you have many many more variations.
"Here are the five breeds: American pit bull terriers, Staffordshire terriers, American Bully, Staffordshire bull terriers and Staffordshire bull terriers .
https://www.thesprucepets.com/pitbull-dog-breeds-4843994pit bull" types now and then.
You have your first amendment right to say your opinion on how YOU hate the breeds and wish they weren't here BUT I also have the right to MY opinion and I will defend them. No where did I say that these dogs are for everyone. The same way German Shepherds are not for everyone. But, I am not for banning them or wishing they didn't exist. Remember your history. German Shepherds and Belgian Malinois were used as police dogs to attack Civil Right movement protesters and also by Nazis to attack Jews and other people. They have the right to exist as do "Pit bull' types and the mixes.
Are there dogs that attack and do serious harm to people, children and pets. Yes. But, first if a dog is 33 percent pit and other dogs that are "tough" German Shepherds etc how do you know that it isn't that part that makes them aggressive?
And lastly, poorly trained dogs and abused dogs can not be held responsible for what the humans put them through. If you chain your dog to the back yard, never feeding them or taking care of their physical or emotional needs and then train them to fight you cannot expect them to be animals that know how to live in harmony with the world.
So in the end while I have the ability to see that some animals harm other people etc there are good "pit bulls" who have been heroes. Your denial of this is just as stubborn as me defending them. So, as long as I can type I will say my opinion and defend these dogs.
I don't care if you respond but, you do not have the right to silence me.
the double 't' and its continued use after being corrected multiple times is just emblematic of their overall low threshold of information and critical thought.
Or their spell check auto changes it Regardless of how it us spelled, pit bulls are not appropriate pets. The pit in pit bull is because the dog was bred to fight in a pit. That is a fighting dog. Not a herder or any other type of working breed.
I have to say, based on this thread alone, the owners or enthusiasts match the dog breed.
But neither "Pitt" nor "Pitt Bull" or "Pittbull" are words so that doesn't explain it.
Like I said, low capacity of information and critical thought.
Due to their history, some can be aggressive toward dogs but human aggression was not only something that wasn't selected for, it was a trait that was avoided due to the nature of the "sport".
Anonymous
10/05/2023 09:08
Subject: What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My Favorites: Labradors, German Shepherds, and Dachshunds
Don’t like: Goldendoodles, Yorkies, and Poodles
Favorite: GS, Beagles, Yorkies, Bichon, Cavalier types. Most big dogs.
Dislike: Anything drooly, anything that sheds or poodles/poodle mixes.
Also, most pits are good - it is the owners of some dogs (big and small) that are awful and irresponsible.
So are you saying that pitts have such awful, irresponsible owners that mauling/killing is reasonable "misbehavior" from a dog?
I seriously doubt that these parents were so awful, they trained their pitts to kill their own children
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/tennessee-mom-in-hospital-after-trying-to-save-her-two-young-children-from-fatal-family-dog-mauling/
That the owners of this dog trained it to kill children?
https://people.com/florida-boy-mauled-death-pit-bull-mix-7560578
Or that the grandma trained this dog to kill her grandson?
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dog-kills-2-year-old-virginia-boy-in-maryland
If I were to be an "awful, irresponsible owner", and decide to stop training my dog for so long she decides to go on a rampage, she's likely to jump on the table and steal food, rummage through the trash, bark for way too long at random people that walk by my house, and chew my kids' toys. No matter how much I ignore her, or let her stop respecting boundaries, or neglect training her, she will not kill or maul people. I would never do that, but if I did she'd be horrible to live with, but she is not a killer. I don't have to train her to not maul people, just like those other owners did not have to train their pitts to kill their children. It is normal for untrained dogs to jump, bark, steal food, chase cars, chew toys, dig holes, etc... It is not normal for untrained dogs to kill/maim people, no matter how awful or irresponsible the owners are.
You'll never get a good faith response to this, though the stats don't lie. You'll get some BS about how a Golden Retriever can and will also rip 3 toddlers to shred and eat their corpses despite this happening...never.
And you won't be honest either. People misread dogs signs all the time. They say " they gave no warning sign" but they don't know them. Children under 10 are the most vulnerable.
Parents let their kids get away with mistreating animals...some dogs are more forgiving than others. But then thats on the owner for not training the kids, not keeping the dog safe. Or chosing the wrong dog.
At our block party two big kids were trying to ride their dog..I told them to stop.
Again, since "pit bull" mixes have alot of breeds what makes you so sure that you can blame the "pit" and not the other working dog breeds for the attack?
I don't care of the owners missed 100s of subtle "signs" from their dogs, you should not have to be a professional animal behaviorist to own a pet. If I missed behavior signals, or even chose to ignore those signals from my dog, she would eventually either retreat to her bed or she would be obnoxious. She'd steal food, she'd get over excited and jump on people, she'd refuse to respond to cues, she might even growl or bite. But she would never (and I 1000% guarantee this) maul or kill a child. She is not gamey, she has inherent bite inhibition, and ultimately she is a domestic pet from a line of domestic pets.
Dogs should also be giving a series of escalating "signals". A domestic pet should not go from lip licking, whale eyes, look aways, and yawns to mauling/killing. There is not a single parent that is telling their child to go snuggle with a growling, air snapping, hackles raised dog, let alone a dog that is biting, making contact with a person's body and releasing. By the time a dog is ready to maul and kill, they should have been giving off multiple "stay away", red zone, obvious behavior signs. We are not talking about a single bite from a stressed dog, we are talking about dogs that literally pull people apart. If pitbulls' danger signals are so subtle that people tend to misread them, and then the mauling/killing is a surprise, then these are not dogs that 99% of people should ever have in the house.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 08:24
Subject: What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
neighbor has a male golden that hasn't been fixed. That dog is mean. Gets out all the time, chase after you growling and showing teeth. I don't think they ever spent anytime training or exercising the dog
Anonymous
10/05/2023 07:34
Subject: What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My Favorites: Labradors, German Shepherds, and Dachshunds
Don’t like: Goldendoodles, Yorkies, and Poodles
Favorite: GS, Beagles, Yorkies, Bichon, Cavalier types. Most big dogs.
Dislike: Anything drooly, anything that sheds or poodles/poodle mixes.
Also, most pits are good - it is the owners of some dogs (big and small) that are awful and irresponsible.
So are you saying that pitts have such awful, irresponsible owners that mauling/killing is reasonable "misbehavior" from a dog?
I seriously doubt that these parents were so awful, they trained their pitts to kill their own children
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/tennessee-mom-in-hospital-after-trying-to-save-her-two-young-children-from-fatal-family-dog-mauling/
That the owners of this dog trained it to kill children?
https://people.com/florida-boy-mauled-death-pit-bull-mix-7560578
Or that the grandma trained this dog to kill her grandson?
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dog-kills-2-year-old-virginia-boy-in-maryland
If I were to be an "awful, irresponsible owner", and decide to stop training my dog for so long she decides to go on a rampage, she's likely to jump on the table and steal food, rummage through the trash, bark for way too long at random people that walk by my house, and chew my kids' toys. No matter how much I ignore her, or let her stop respecting boundaries, or neglect training her, she will not kill or maul people. I would never do that, but if I did she'd be horrible to live with, but she is not a killer. I don't have to train her to not maul people, just like those other owners did not have to train their pitts to kill their children. It is normal for untrained dogs to jump, bark, steal food, chase cars, chew toys, dig holes, etc... It is not normal for untrained dogs to kill/maim people, no matter how awful or irresponsible the owners are.
You'll never get a good faith response to this, though the stats don't lie. You'll get some BS about how a Golden Retriever can and will also rip 3 toddlers to shred and eat their corpses despite this happening...never.
And you won't be honest either. People misread dogs signs all the time. They say " they gave no warning sign" but they don't know them. Children under 10 are the most vulnerable.
Parents let their kids get away with mistreating animals...some dogs are more forgiving than others. But then thats on the owner for not training the kids, not keeping the dog safe. Or chosing the wrong dog.
At our block party two big kids were trying to ride their dog..I told them to stop.
Again, since "pit bull" mixes have alot of breeds what makes you so sure that you can blame the "pit" and not the other working dog breeds for the attack?
Anonymous
10/05/2023 07:27
Subject: What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I like any dog that has a good human who isn't a selfish a-hole.
If a dog isn't trained ( any dog) is he the a-hole or the owner who should know better?
It's the owner's fault and so the owner is the A-hole not the dog
Um. Yeah. That's what PP said. The phrase "who isn't a selfish a-hole" modifies the noun "human".
You are right.
Anonymous
10/04/2023 22:42
Subject: What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
I love my golden and I just got a Cav King Charles and I'm in luuuuv with her. She's the best snuggler. It also helps that her poops are so teeny!
Anonymous
10/04/2023 22:36
Subject: What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I like any dog that has a good human who isn't a selfish a-hole.
If a dog isn't trained ( any dog) is he the a-hole or the owner who should know better?
It's the owner's fault and so the owner is the A-hole not the dog
Um. Yeah. That's what PP said. The phrase "who isn't a selfish a-hole" modifies the noun "human".
Anonymous
10/04/2023 22:33
Subject: What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
I like Boxers
Anonymous
10/04/2023 22:29
Subject: What is your favorite dog, and what are dogs you don’t like?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My Favorites: Labradors, German Shepherds, and Dachshunds
Don’t like: Goldendoodles, Yorkies, and Poodles
Favorite: GS, Beagles, Yorkies, Bichon, Cavalier types. Most big dogs.
Dislike: Anything drooly, anything that sheds or poodles/poodle mixes.
Also, most pits are good - it is the owners of some dogs (big and small) that are awful and irresponsible.
So are you saying that pitts have such awful, irresponsible owners that mauling/killing is reasonable "misbehavior" from a dog?
I seriously doubt that these parents were so awful, they trained their pitts to kill their own children
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/tennessee-mom-in-hospital-after-trying-to-save-her-two-young-children-from-fatal-family-dog-mauling/
That the owners of this dog trained it to kill children?
https://people.com/florida-boy-mauled-death-pit-bull-mix-7560578
Or that the grandma trained this dog to kill her grandson?
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dog-kills-2-year-old-virginia-boy-in-maryland
If I were to be an "awful, irresponsible owner", and decide to stop training my dog for so long she decides to go on a rampage, she's likely to jump on the table and steal food, rummage through the trash, bark for way too long at random people that walk by my house, and chew my kids' toys. No matter how much I ignore her, or let her stop respecting boundaries, or neglect training her, she will not kill or maul people. I would never do that, but if I did she'd be horrible to live with, but she is not a killer. I don't have to train her to not maul people, just like those other owners did not have to train their pitts to kill their children. It is normal for untrained dogs to jump, bark, steal food, chase cars, chew toys, dig holes, etc... It is not normal for untrained dogs to kill/maim people, no matter how awful or irresponsible the owners are.
You'll never get a good faith response to this, though the stats don't lie. You'll get some BS about how a Golden Retriever can and will also rip 3 toddlers to shred and eat their corpses despite this happening...never.