Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are we seeing the same video? The woman filming is sadistically enjoying provoking that crazy person. You can hear in her voice that she is enjoying causing someone else pain.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?
Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.
There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.
You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.
You are a liar like the white woman in the film. You think if you keep repeating the same lie, people will begin to believe it.
The black woman was NOT provoking the white woman. The white woman would not leave the black woman alone.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The woman filming is the Karen in this incidentAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are we seeing the same video? The woman filming is sadistically enjoying provoking that crazy person. You can hear in her voice that she is enjoying causing someone else pain.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?
Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.
There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.
You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.
You are a liar like the white woman in the film. You think if you keep repeating the same lie, people will begin to believe it.
The black woman was NOT provoking the white woman. The white woman would not leave the black woman alone.
Your Karen meter is broken and needs recalibration.
Black karen got what she deserved by provoking and harassing someone in public. Live and learn.
You are alien. No such thing as a Black Karen.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The woman filming is the Karen in this incidentAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are we seeing the same video? The woman filming is sadistically enjoying provoking that crazy person. You can hear in her voice that she is enjoying causing someone else pain.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?
Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.
There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.
You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.
You are a liar like the white woman in the film. You think if you keep repeating the same lie, people will begin to believe it.
The black woman was NOT provoking the white woman. The white woman would not leave the black woman alone.
Your Karen meter is broken and needs recalibration.
Black karen got what she deserved by provoking and harassing someone in public. Live and learn.
She deserved a big payday?
Anonymous wrote:Says she has mental illness and her disability contributed to her behavior, which was filmed and went viral.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12559355/Victoria-Secret-Karen-abigail-elphick-meltdown-video.html
Interesting twist and a useful reminder that the impulse to film everything and, worse, distribute it in the hope of vigilante justice, is rife with legal risk.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The woman filming is the Karen in this incidentAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are we seeing the same video? The woman filming is sadistically enjoying provoking that crazy person. You can hear in her voice that she is enjoying causing someone else pain.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?
Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.
There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.
You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.
You are a liar like the white woman in the film. You think if you keep repeating the same lie, people will begin to believe it.
The black woman was NOT provoking the white woman. The white woman would not leave the black woman alone.
Your Karen meter is broken and needs recalibration.
Black karen got what she deserved by provoking and harassing someone in public. Live and learn.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The woman filming is the Karen in this incidentAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are we seeing the same video? The woman filming is sadistically enjoying provoking that crazy person. You can hear in her voice that she is enjoying causing someone else pain.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?
Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.
There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.
You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.
You are a liar like the white woman in the film. You think if you keep repeating the same lie, people will begin to believe it.
The black woman was NOT provoking the white woman. The white woman would not leave the black woman alone.
Your Karen meter is broken and needs recalibration.
Black karen got what she deserved by provoking and harassing someone in public. Live and learn.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The woman filming is the Karen in this incidentAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are we seeing the same video? The woman filming is sadistically enjoying provoking that crazy person. You can hear in her voice that she is enjoying causing someone else pain.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?
Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.
There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.
You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.
You are a liar like the white woman in the film. You think if you keep repeating the same lie, people will begin to believe it.
The black woman was NOT provoking the white woman. The white woman would not leave the black woman alone.
Your Karen meter is broken and needs recalibration.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are we seeing the same video? The woman filming is sadistically enjoying provoking that crazy person. You can hear in her voice that she is enjoying causing someone else pain.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?
Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.
There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.
You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.
You are a liar like the white woman in the film. You think if you keep repeating the same lie, people will begin to believe it.
The black woman was NOT provoking the white woman. The white woman would not leave the black woman alone.
There is 3 minutes of video followed by another 7 minutes that says the filmer was provoking the crazy woman.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are we seeing the same video? The woman filming is sadistically enjoying provoking that crazy person. You can hear in her voice that she is enjoying causing someone else pain.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?
Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.
There is a difference between security cameras and some jacka** with a phone who films you against your will and posts it on social media. Huge difference. The filmer in this case deserves to be sued. She's a fraud looking to exploit race relations and a mentally ill woman to pad her wallet. She is disgusting.
You're a disgusting racist. The mentally ill woman is a manipulative faker.
You are a liar like the white woman in the film. You think if you keep repeating the same lie, people will begin to believe it.
The black woman was NOT provoking the white woman. The white woman would not leave the black woman alone.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As the mother of kids with disabilities, the woman's behavior may be explained by her disability, it does not excuse it.
Does having a breakdown caused by the fact that she is moderately autistic (yes, I know this as a fact as a relative who's known her all her life) with depression and anxiety merit her and her entire family receiving death and rape threats for years?
If you say "yes", you are revolting.