Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 11:23     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:55-year DC resident.

In the 70s-80s-early 90s, the idea that DC would ever build new parks, libraries, schools, repair roads, or any kind of infrastructure was inconceivable. Large parts of the center of the District looked bombed out after the '68 riots and stayed that way for 25 years.

The current uptick in crime is nothing compared to the long-term improvements.

The major change I see is that people in DC's nicest suburbs can't stop whining about how bad they have it.
because I see how Montgomery county has declined. I’m from here. I was born here. It’s a lot worse than it was
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 11:08     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
55-year DC resident.

In the 70s-80s-early 90s, the idea that DC would ever build new parks, libraries, schools, repair roads, or any kind of infrastructure was inconceivable. Large parts of the center of the District looked bombed out after the '68 riots and stayed that way for 25 years.

The current uptick in crime is nothing compared to the long-term improvements.

The major change I see is that people in DC's nicest suburbs can't stop whining about how bad they have it.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 11:04     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
For people who moved here in the 2008 to 2016 time frame, crime is getting worse. It's really about expectations and feelings. Those people were not here when Hains Point was an open air drug market or when 14th Street was a no-go zone unless you were looking for a streetwalker.

Those same people - who moved to DC when they were young and reckless - probably now have some assets, have kids, are more cognizant of safety issues, etc.

Perceptions matter. Irrational feelings drive a lot of voting behavior.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 10:39     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know people who stopped going to dc because if the crime. One of my best friends would go to bars in adams Morgan but got mugged enough in the late 90s early 2000s he stopped going to dc


Too bad. Your friend missed out on lots of fun. Oh well.


What fun? You sure you’re talking about DC?
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 09:40     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe there was more acts of crime in DC in the 80s and 90s. However, the difference between then and now is that many more areas of the city and the suburbs are less safe.


More people feel safe now.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/02/25/police-poll-violence-dc/


And yet, more people feel safe now.


They polled 904 people and claim an error of +/- 4 points. I think it's safe to call that statistical wankery.


I think it's safe to say that you don't know much about statistics.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 09:38     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As usual, this is so dumb. I was out cycling last weekend in Hains Point. It was wonderful. So many people out in the city having a wonderful time. All I could think about was BS posts like this. Where are you and what are you doing to think that DC sucks that bad. It's strange. It's like you watch tv and want it to be true.


Hains point was an open air drug market when I was in high school in the 90s.


Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 09:36     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:I know people who stopped going to dc because if the crime. One of my best friends would go to bars in adams Morgan but got mugged enough in the late 90s early 2000s he stopped going to dc


Too bad. Your friend missed out on lots of fun. Oh well.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 08:53     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know people who stopped going to dc because if the crime. One of my best friends would go to bars in adams Morgan but got mugged enough in the late 90s early 2000s he stopped going to dc


That was the safest time. Much worse now.


You’re surely kidding.
Anonymous
Post 08/31/2023 11:38     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe there was more acts of crime in DC in the 80s and 90s. However, the difference between then and now is that many more areas of the city and the suburbs are less safe.


More people feel safe now.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/02/25/police-poll-violence-dc/


And yet, more people feel safe now.


They polled 904 people and claim an error of +/- 4 points. I think it's safe to call that statistical wankery.


That's just how public opinion surveys work. 904 people in a city the size of D.C. is a pretty large sample, actually.
Anonymous
Post 08/31/2023 10:55     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe there was more acts of crime in DC in the 80s and 90s. However, the difference between then and now is that many more areas of the city and the suburbs are less safe.


More people feel safe now.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/02/25/police-poll-violence-dc/


And yet, more people feel safe now.


They polled 904 people and claim an error of +/- 4 points. I think it's safe to call that statistical wankery.


Even with max margin of error, there was a decrease.
Anonymous
Post 08/31/2023 10:52     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe there was more acts of crime in DC in the 80s and 90s. However, the difference between then and now is that many more areas of the city and the suburbs are less safe.


More people feel safe now.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/02/25/police-poll-violence-dc/


And yet, more people feel safe now.


They polled 904 people and claim an error of +/- 4 points. I think it's safe to call that statistical wankery.
Anonymous
Post 08/31/2023 10:42     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know people who stopped going to dc because if the crime. One of my best friends would go to bars in adams Morgan but got mugged enough in the late 90s early 2000s he stopped going to dc


That was the safest time. Much worse now.


LOL. You're right -- that was the best time to be in DC. I lived in Chinatown then when they just built the new highrise over the metro station, and it was great. Now, not so much.
Anonymous
Post 08/31/2023 09:34     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe there was more acts of crime in DC in the 80s and 90s. However, the difference between then and now is that many more areas of the city and the suburbs are less safe.


More people feel safe now.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/02/25/police-poll-violence-dc/


And yet, more people feel safe now.
Anonymous
Post 08/31/2023 09:22     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:I know people who stopped going to dc because if the crime. One of my best friends would go to bars in adams Morgan but got mugged enough in the late 90s early 2000s he stopped going to dc


That was the safest time. Much worse now.
Anonymous
Post 08/31/2023 09:00     Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
I know people who stopped going to dc because if the crime. One of my best friends would go to bars in adams Morgan but got mugged enough in the late 90s early 2000s he stopped going to dc