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Anonymous wrote:I think the best part of this thread is saying white men aren’t attacked followed by a clause that clearly attacks white men. Love the irony!

Because “attacked” doesn’t have the same meaning as “criticized”.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow what planet is that guy living on where he thinks everything is a matriarch and how can I get there?

I hear my husband say stuff like no one takes care of him, or that no one cares if he is sad, or that it doesn’t matter if you are a good person, people only care about what you can do for them. And I think, “yeah. Welcome to being an adult.”

But I think he imagines that there is this other subset of people who are just loved and cared for unconditionally without anything being expected of them in return. I don’t know who exactly he thinks these people are (other than children) or who is doing all of this caring (men?). But it feels real to him.

That other subset is called "women". And the reason is because they are more inherently biologically valuable.

Way to invalidate your husbands feelings.

Who does he think takes care of women or cares if they are sick or sad? The kids? Their boss? Him? Who?

Society takes care of women, because they are more biologically valuable. That's why women consume the lion's share of social services and are generally treated more sympathetically in times of vulnerability.

A man has to become valuable, because he is not born with the same degree of intrinsic value as a woman. Your husband is describing the weight of contingent value that he feels. The safety nets won't care as much about him.

You lost me right there.

Not sure why you're getting lost. By and large, men have always been treated as more expendable by society.

You are clearly living on a different planet. How many cultures kill baby boys intentionally?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow what planet is that guy living on where he thinks everything is a matriarch and how can I get there?

I hear my husband say stuff like no one takes care of him, or that no one cares if he is sad, or that it doesn’t matter if you are a good person, people only care about what you can do for them. And I think, “yeah. Welcome to being an adult.”

But I think he imagines that there is this other subset of people who are just loved and cared for unconditionally without anything being expected of them in return. I don’t know who exactly he thinks these people are (other than children) or who is doing all of this caring (men?). But it feels real to him.

That other subset is called "women". And the reason is because they are more inherently biologically valuable.

Way to invalidate your husbands feelings.

Who does he think takes care of women or cares if they are sick or sad? The kids? Their boss? Him? Who?

Society takes care of women, because they are more biologically valuable. That's why women consume the lion's share of social services and are generally treated more sympathetically in times of vulnerability.

WTH? This is a load of crappola.

A man has to become valuable, because he is not born with the same degree of intrinsic value as a woman. Your husband is describing the weight of contingent value that he feels. The safety nets won't care as much about him.

In most cultures women are not valued. They are considered less than.

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Anonymous wrote:White men are losing their privileges, so they are creating false narratives and fighting back to regain their privilege.

I work at a federal agency that is clearly all White, older, tall men in positions of authority. If you asked anyone one of them about the threat of DEIA, they will tell you it's true without looking around the room. It's actually laughable.

I think you’re half right. I don’t think white men are actually losing their privilege, I think that more people are falling into the headings which have always “justified” white male privilege. We’ve never been so crass as to *say* (at least since the sixties) that Jim is in this job because he’s a white guy, it’s always been
…Jim went to Harvard/was in my fraternity
…Jim did an internship at _______
…Jim is close to Senior Leader Bob

But now that more women go to elite universities, internships aggressively recruit for diversity (often for the effort to appear diverse by still) and Senior Leader Bob has been getting all these compliments for his mentorship of women, Jim is no longer in the *only* category capable of becoming privileged and suddenly there’s competition for this first time.

White men are losing their privileges, so they are creating false narratives and fighting back to regain their privilege.

I work at a federal agency that is clearly all White, older, tall men in positions of authority. If you asked anyone one of them about the threat of DEIA, they will tell you it's true without looking around the room. It's actually laughable.

Anonymous wrote:White men are losing their privileges, so they are creating false narratives and fighting back to regain their privilege.

I work at a federal agency that is clearly all White, older, tall men in positions of authority. If you asked anyone one of them about the threat of DEIA, they will tell you it's true without looking around the room. It's actually laughable.

Anonymous wrote:I think the best part of this thread is saying white men aren’t attacked followed by a clause that clearly attacks white men. Love the irony!

Anonymous wrote:I'm not so sure about that...but the one thing I'm sure of, is that heterosexual white men are the single most attacked and hated group in large cities right now...