Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I live near The Plains and have been following this story for sometime.
I don’t think the motivation of the Washers is anti-gay bigotry, that just fuels their rage. I think they’re annoyed with living next to the restaurant that was there long before they moved in. But they’ve turned it into a quest to shut them down and are definitely motivated by culture issues.
However their primary motive now it appears (unclear if this has been it all along), and this belief has been expressed by people more in the know than me, is to make a restaurant (and possibly any other business needing a SUP) totally untenable in that location, drive down the purchase price, buy it, and then provide the property special access to parking, etc and re-apply for a new SUP, thereby instantly raising the property value.
As noted in the article, the family appears to be pretty fly-by-night con artists. They sling high priced annuities, seem to engage in tax fraud (thousands in business lunches for he and his wife??), and have political ambitions. Their son, running for county supervisor, comes across as incredibly fake and disingenuous. He’s fooled the redneck contingent out here that he’s one of them but he’s all hat and no cattle. He’s being led around like a show pony through the county by a contingent of far-right near fascist preppe/property right extremists who have been buying up a ton of property in recent years. The candidate himself bought a farm just recently to “run cattle” but it appears only for instageammable moments. It’s all very contrived. His handlers have a major agenda that have nothing to do with the “conservation” message he has the audacity to run on. They want to be able to have absolute property rights to do what they want on their property - whether it’s subdivide it into tiny lots or have a militia training camp. They’re scary people and Washer is their front man. He has a lot of the long-time conservative residents fooled that he represents their interests, has huge support from younger newer rednecks and the children who never got out of the area from big families out here. His opposition is mostly retirees who moved out here and blue bloods. It used to be that retiree/blue blood faction would carry that district but times have changed and Washer will likely win. Who knows what happens after that but he will undoubtedly use his political position for personal gain.
So, long story short: the gay stuff is relevant but as a subplot, not the main story. The washer family seems to be con artists. This is all about money and power in the county.
Oh, and The Plains is definitely rural… but the commute isn’t that bad.
Someone needs to tell the Post that the gay stuff is not the main story. The headlines, the pictures, paragraphs describing LGBTG activism. The Post is trying to create a narrative that’s not there. It’s as disgusting and bullying as how the Washers conduct themselves.
Correct. The post story has done nothing but whip up support for the Washers, now being seen as a target for the woke mob.
Speak for yourself. I don’t support them at all and if you are willing to support shady people just to stick it to the libs then you are just another MAGA lost in the wilderness. Dime a dozen.
Cool. You answered my objective statement (the post story is whipping up support and making washers seem like victims) with some weird subjective statement laced with ad hominem attacks… and that’s being very kind to your remarks, because they didn’t actually make much sense.
In what universe is that an objective statement?!?
The post story is whipping up support.
Source: multiple Facebook groups and listservs I am a member of, where this topic has generated far more engagement than any topic in months and it’s all slanted toward washers, involving many new faces who haven’t engaged on the topic previously.
Those are the facts. Your opinion is me telling you that fact makes me a Republican, or something.
BREAKING NEWS: Republican safely ensconced in echo chambers uses echo chambers as proof. Film at 11.
Washer won a race usually won by an independent and now his crew of libertarian, maga, prepper far right whack jobs are running the show.
It’s about time for the anti-magas to wake up to the fact that it’s not all echo chambers and social media buzz.
Yeah, Focazio ran a bad/complacent campaign - but Washer won a race for a position he is entirely unqualified to win, making it abundantly clear he would happily show favoritism to his family’s businesses and his friends if he won, and was still elected because of the support whipped up, in part, because the Washington post and other outside forces came in and tried, yet again, to shame the maga out of people.
If campaigns were left to the people who know the communities and the press got their meddling liberal bias out of everything, the good guys could start winning.
I don’t know, I think the people of Fauquier are smart enough to know what they’re voting for. They elected a clown, and now they’ll get the circus. If the goal was to keep the “liberal elite” out they seem to be doing a very good job- I’d never want people like the Washers as my neighbors. MAGA is usually a sign of rot in a community, so I’d expect that cute little downtown in the Plains to be filled with MLMs, hucksters, and a Dollar General in no time.
What's wrong with a Dollar General?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I live near The Plains and have been following this story for sometime.
I don’t think the motivation of the Washers is anti-gay bigotry, that just fuels their rage. I think they’re annoyed with living next to the restaurant that was there long before they moved in. But they’ve turned it into a quest to shut them down and are definitely motivated by culture issues.
However their primary motive now it appears (unclear if this has been it all along), and this belief has been expressed by people more in the know than me, is to make a restaurant (and possibly any other business needing a SUP) totally untenable in that location, drive down the purchase price, buy it, and then provide the property special access to parking, etc and re-apply for a new SUP, thereby instantly raising the property value.
As noted in the article, the family appears to be pretty fly-by-night con artists. They sling high priced annuities, seem to engage in tax fraud (thousands in business lunches for he and his wife??), and have political ambitions. Their son, running for county supervisor, comes across as incredibly fake and disingenuous. He’s fooled the redneck contingent out here that he’s one of them but he’s all hat and no cattle. He’s being led around like a show pony through the county by a contingent of far-right near fascist preppe/property right extremists who have been buying up a ton of property in recent years. The candidate himself bought a farm just recently to “run cattle” but it appears only for instageammable moments. It’s all very contrived. His handlers have a major agenda that have nothing to do with the “conservation” message he has the audacity to run on. They want to be able to have absolute property rights to do what they want on their property - whether it’s subdivide it into tiny lots or have a militia training camp. They’re scary people and Washer is their front man. He has a lot of the long-time conservative residents fooled that he represents their interests, has huge support from younger newer rednecks and the children who never got out of the area from big families out here. His opposition is mostly retirees who moved out here and blue bloods. It used to be that retiree/blue blood faction would carry that district but times have changed and Washer will likely win. Who knows what happens after that but he will undoubtedly use his political position for personal gain.
So, long story short: the gay stuff is relevant but as a subplot, not the main story. The washer family seems to be con artists. This is all about money and power in the county.
Oh, and The Plains is definitely rural… but the commute isn’t that bad.
Someone needs to tell the Post that the gay stuff is not the main story. The headlines, the pictures, paragraphs describing LGBTG activism. The Post is trying to create a narrative that’s not there. It’s as disgusting and bullying as how the Washers conduct themselves.
Correct. The post story has done nothing but whip up support for the Washers, now being seen as a target for the woke mob.
Speak for yourself. I don’t support them at all and if you are willing to support shady people just to stick it to the libs then you are just another MAGA lost in the wilderness. Dime a dozen.
Cool. You answered my objective statement (the post story is whipping up support and making washers seem like victims) with some weird subjective statement laced with ad hominem attacks… and that’s being very kind to your remarks, because they didn’t actually make much sense.
In what universe is that an objective statement?!?
The post story is whipping up support.
Source: multiple Facebook groups and listservs I am a member of, where this topic has generated far more engagement than any topic in months and it’s all slanted toward washers, involving many new faces who haven’t engaged on the topic previously.
Those are the facts. Your opinion is me telling you that fact makes me a Republican, or something.
BREAKING NEWS: Republican safely ensconced in echo chambers uses echo chambers as proof. Film at 11.
Washer won a race usually won by an independent and now his crew of libertarian, maga, prepper far right whack jobs are running the show.
It’s about time for the anti-magas to wake up to the fact that it’s not all echo chambers and social media buzz.
Yeah, Focazio ran a bad/complacent campaign - but Washer won a race for a position he is entirely unqualified to win, making it abundantly clear he would happily show favoritism to his family’s businesses and his friends if he won, and was still elected because of the support whipped up, in part, because the Washington post and other outside forces came in and tried, yet again, to shame the maga out of people.
If campaigns were left to the people who know the communities and the press got their meddling liberal bias out of everything, the good guys could start winning.
I don’t know, I think the people of Fauquier are smart enough to know what they’re voting for. They elected a clown, and now they’ll get the circus. If the goal was to keep the “liberal elite” out they seem to be doing a very good job- I’d never want people like the Washers as my neighbors. MAGA is usually a sign of rot in a community, so I’d expect that cute little downtown in the Plains to be filled with MLMs, hucksters, and a Dollar General in no time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I live near The Plains and have been following this story for sometime.
I don’t think the motivation of the Washers is anti-gay bigotry, that just fuels their rage. I think they’re annoyed with living next to the restaurant that was there long before they moved in. But they’ve turned it into a quest to shut them down and are definitely motivated by culture issues.
However their primary motive now it appears (unclear if this has been it all along), and this belief has been expressed by people more in the know than me, is to make a restaurant (and possibly any other business needing a SUP) totally untenable in that location, drive down the purchase price, buy it, and then provide the property special access to parking, etc and re-apply for a new SUP, thereby instantly raising the property value.
As noted in the article, the family appears to be pretty fly-by-night con artists. They sling high priced annuities, seem to engage in tax fraud (thousands in business lunches for he and his wife??), and have political ambitions. Their son, running for county supervisor, comes across as incredibly fake and disingenuous. He’s fooled the redneck contingent out here that he’s one of them but he’s all hat and no cattle. He’s being led around like a show pony through the county by a contingent of far-right near fascist preppe/property right extremists who have been buying up a ton of property in recent years. The candidate himself bought a farm just recently to “run cattle” but it appears only for instageammable moments. It’s all very contrived. His handlers have a major agenda that have nothing to do with the “conservation” message he has the audacity to run on. They want to be able to have absolute property rights to do what they want on their property - whether it’s subdivide it into tiny lots or have a militia training camp. They’re scary people and Washer is their front man. He has a lot of the long-time conservative residents fooled that he represents their interests, has huge support from younger newer rednecks and the children who never got out of the area from big families out here. His opposition is mostly retirees who moved out here and blue bloods. It used to be that retiree/blue blood faction would carry that district but times have changed and Washer will likely win. Who knows what happens after that but he will undoubtedly use his political position for personal gain.
So, long story short: the gay stuff is relevant but as a subplot, not the main story. The washer family seems to be con artists. This is all about money and power in the county.
Oh, and The Plains is definitely rural… but the commute isn’t that bad.
Someone needs to tell the Post that the gay stuff is not the main story. The headlines, the pictures, paragraphs describing LGBTG activism. The Post is trying to create a narrative that’s not there. It’s as disgusting and bullying as how the Washers conduct themselves.
Correct. The post story has done nothing but whip up support for the Washers, now being seen as a target for the woke mob.
Speak for yourself. I don’t support them at all and if you are willing to support shady people just to stick it to the libs then you are just another MAGA lost in the wilderness. Dime a dozen.
Cool. You answered my objective statement (the post story is whipping up support and making washers seem like victims) with some weird subjective statement laced with ad hominem attacks… and that’s being very kind to your remarks, because they didn’t actually make much sense.
In what universe is that an objective statement?!?
The post story is whipping up support.
Source: multiple Facebook groups and listservs I am a member of, where this topic has generated far more engagement than any topic in months and it’s all slanted toward washers, involving many new faces who haven’t engaged on the topic previously.
Those are the facts. Your opinion is me telling you that fact makes me a Republican, or something.
BREAKING NEWS: Republican safely ensconced in echo chambers uses echo chambers as proof. Film at 11.
Washer won a race usually won by an independent and now his crew of libertarian, maga, prepper far right whack jobs are running the show.
It’s about time for the anti-magas to wake up to the fact that it’s not all echo chambers and social media buzz.
Yeah, Focazio ran a bad/complacent campaign - but Washer won a race for a position he is entirely unqualified to win, making it abundantly clear he would happily show favoritism to his family’s businesses and his friends if he won, and was still elected because of the support whipped up, in part, because the Washington post and other outside forces came in and tried, yet again, to shame the maga out of people.
If campaigns were left to the people who know the communities and the press got their meddling liberal bias out of everything, the good guys could start winning.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I live near The Plains and have been following this story for sometime.
I don’t think the motivation of the Washers is anti-gay bigotry, that just fuels their rage. I think they’re annoyed with living next to the restaurant that was there long before they moved in. But they’ve turned it into a quest to shut them down and are definitely motivated by culture issues.
However their primary motive now it appears (unclear if this has been it all along), and this belief has been expressed by people more in the know than me, is to make a restaurant (and possibly any other business needing a SUP) totally untenable in that location, drive down the purchase price, buy it, and then provide the property special access to parking, etc and re-apply for a new SUP, thereby instantly raising the property value.
As noted in the article, the family appears to be pretty fly-by-night con artists. They sling high priced annuities, seem to engage in tax fraud (thousands in business lunches for he and his wife??), and have political ambitions. Their son, running for county supervisor, comes across as incredibly fake and disingenuous. He’s fooled the redneck contingent out here that he’s one of them but he’s all hat and no cattle. He’s being led around like a show pony through the county by a contingent of far-right near fascist preppe/property right extremists who have been buying up a ton of property in recent years. The candidate himself bought a farm just recently to “run cattle” but it appears only for instageammable moments. It’s all very contrived. His handlers have a major agenda that have nothing to do with the “conservation” message he has the audacity to run on. They want to be able to have absolute property rights to do what they want on their property - whether it’s subdivide it into tiny lots or have a militia training camp. They’re scary people and Washer is their front man. He has a lot of the long-time conservative residents fooled that he represents their interests, has huge support from younger newer rednecks and the children who never got out of the area from big families out here. His opposition is mostly retirees who moved out here and blue bloods. It used to be that retiree/blue blood faction would carry that district but times have changed and Washer will likely win. Who knows what happens after that but he will undoubtedly use his political position for personal gain.
So, long story short: the gay stuff is relevant but as a subplot, not the main story. The washer family seems to be con artists. This is all about money and power in the county.
Oh, and The Plains is definitely rural… but the commute isn’t that bad.
Someone needs to tell the Post that the gay stuff is not the main story. The headlines, the pictures, paragraphs describing LGBTG activism. The Post is trying to create a narrative that’s not there. It’s as disgusting and bullying as how the Washers conduct themselves.
Correct. The post story has done nothing but whip up support for the Washers, now being seen as a target for the woke mob.
Speak for yourself. I don’t support them at all and if you are willing to support shady people just to stick it to the libs then you are just another MAGA lost in the wilderness. Dime a dozen.
Cool. You answered my objective statement (the post story is whipping up support and making washers seem like victims) with some weird subjective statement laced with ad hominem attacks… and that’s being very kind to your remarks, because they didn’t actually make much sense.
In what universe is that an objective statement?!?
The post story is whipping up support.
Source: multiple Facebook groups and listservs I am a member of, where this topic has generated far more engagement than any topic in months and it’s all slanted toward washers, involving many new faces who haven’t engaged on the topic previously.
Those are the facts. Your opinion is me telling you that fact makes me a Republican, or something.
BREAKING NEWS: Republican safely ensconced in echo chambers uses echo chambers as proof. Film at 11.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The guy is no doubt a jerk. But is this now what passes as a front page story in the Washington Post on a Sunday? It’s like the Post had some insatiable appetite for culture war stories that they try to pump up anything that has the slightest whiff of racism or LGBTQ to it. We’ve officially reached the point where demand for bigotry exceeds the supply of stories.
Yes, and for good reason. The dispute is impairing the town government's ability to function. If you don't think it's newsworthy, there's an easy solution: don't read the article.
Maybe. But that’s not the story the Post published. The story they published is “rural bigot targets gay restaurant for no reason” type story. When in reality the jerk frequented the restaurant himself on many occasions with apparently no one to putting his money in the gay couples pocket. You’ve got to get about ten paragraphs in before it becomes the “impairing the town government” that you claim it is. This headline is highly inflammatory and irresponsible and bears no relation to the story itself. Is there any doubt that if a country western restaurant shared the same parking lot that the same issue would eventually rise with this hot head? Of course they would. There is a reason the Post’s readership is in free fall and it’s in large part to irresponsible journalism such as this. Seriously, this story on the front page of the Sunday Post.
The fact that the hateful religious fundamentalist family is targeting a gay couple is just a complete and total coincidence! Why does WaPo have to be so inflammatory?!
That’s the story that you and the Post desperately want. But few if any actual facts to support that. The guy hates the gay couple so much that he apparently spent thousands of dollars in the restaurant over several years. Wut? Didn’t the media learn anything from the Jessie Smollett incident.
Have you been to The Plains or the Front Porch? I have a bunch of times. There aren’t many options and The Front Porch is one of the best.
And yes, he hates gays. He used the f word in reference to the owner. I don’t know how you get more direct than that. I don’t think that fact that the spent money at one of the only decent places to eat negates their hatred for the owners or self righteous attitude.
He hates them so much that he’s been there 40+ times. Yeah right. He is the rare ultra conservative home schooler prepper who also just happen to love fine dining. C’mon people. If this was a Chic fil A restaurant he’d still be complaining about the trash and parking. That’s just who he is. The Washington Post needs to do better.
But it wasn't a Chic-fil-A. It was The Front Porch, in The Plains, Virginia. This is a particular story about particular neighbors in a particular town in a particular state. Do you think the Washington Post should send reporters out to look for cases of neighbor disputes involving Chic-fil-As, in order to be fair and balanced?
I don’t think neighborhood disputes belong on the front page of the newspaper of record in the capital of our country.
I don't think the Washington Post needs to worry about losing you as a reader, because it's clear that you were not a reader of the Washington Post to begin with.
Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but as a homosexual, no straight man has ever worn the shirt Washer is wearing in those photos.
Classic case of closeted rage. He can't be himself so he takes out his self-hatred on those who are out and proud.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Front Page couple should just lease out the space to another restauranteur if they don't want to deal with the headache of the Washers.
Don't give the Washers the satisfaction of a distressed sale. Make them live next to a restaurant.
PS - why the hell would the Washers even live in a commercial property? I'm sure they are playing all sorts of tax games.
Exactly this. They want to buy as many commercial properties in The Plains for as cheaply as possible and then sell them off to developers. Very scuzzy people.
So your theory is that after spending $40,000 at the restaurant and making it wildly successful that they the decided to pull a complete 180 and instead run some commercial real estate arbitrage scheme involving dead rats? Do you even hear yourself?
The restaurant was wildly successful before the washers ever contemplated moving to the Plains.
Their spending there was out of convenience.
Their scheme is simply opportunistic.
Please get the help you need.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Front Page couple should just lease out the space to another restauranteur if they don't want to deal with the headache of the Washers.
Don't give the Washers the satisfaction of a distressed sale. Make them live next to a restaurant.
PS - why the hell would the Washers even live in a commercial property? I'm sure they are playing all sorts of tax games.
Exactly this. They want to buy as many commercial properties in The Plains for as cheaply as possible and then sell them off to developers. Very scuzzy people.
So your theory is that after spending $40,000 at the restaurant and making it wildly successful that they the decided to pull a complete 180 and instead run some commercial real estate arbitrage scheme involving dead rats? Do you even hear yourself?
The restaurant was wildly successful before the washers ever contemplated moving to the Plains.
Their spending there was out of convenience.
Their scheme is simply opportunistic.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Front Page couple should just lease out the space to another restauranteur if they don't want to deal with the headache of the Washers.
Don't give the Washers the satisfaction of a distressed sale. Make them live next to a restaurant.
PS - why the hell would the Washers even live in a commercial property? I'm sure they are playing all sorts of tax games.
Exactly this. They want to buy as many commercial properties in The Plains for as cheaply as possible and then sell them off to developers. Very scuzzy people.
So your theory is that after spending $40,000 at the restaurant and making it wildly successful that they the decided to pull a complete 180 and instead run some commercial real estate arbitrage scheme involving dead rats? Do you even hear yourself?
DP. The Washers didn't "make the restaurant wildly successful". It was already an established business. I personally doubt the claim that they spent $40,000 there. Didn't they only live there about a year before the place banned them?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Front Page couple should just lease out the space to another restauranteur if they don't want to deal with the headache of the Washers.
Don't give the Washers the satisfaction of a distressed sale. Make them live next to a restaurant.
PS - why the hell would the Washers even live in a commercial property? I'm sure they are playing all sorts of tax games.
Exactly this. They want to buy as many commercial properties in The Plains for as cheaply as possible and then sell them off to developers. Very scuzzy people.
So your theory is that after spending $40,000 at the restaurant and making it wildly successful that they the decided to pull a complete 180 and instead run some commercial real estate arbitrage scheme involving dead rats? Do you even hear yourself?
The restaurant was wildly successful before the washers ever contemplated moving to the Plains.
Their spending there was out of convenience.
Their scheme is simply opportunistic.
+1
They probably tried to butter up the restaurant owners through spending money at their establishment, hoping to get a sweetheart deal on the real estate because "aw shucks we're neighbors, let's get this off your hands so you can retire in peace" (going back to the big hat, no cattle approach). When that didn't work, the Washers went scorched earth.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Front Page couple should just lease out the space to another restauranteur if they don't want to deal with the headache of the Washers.
Don't give the Washers the satisfaction of a distressed sale. Make them live next to a restaurant.
PS - why the hell would the Washers even live in a commercial property? I'm sure they are playing all sorts of tax games.
Exactly this. They want to buy as many commercial properties in The Plains for as cheaply as possible and then sell them off to developers. Very scuzzy people.
So your theory is that after spending $40,000 at the restaurant and making it wildly successful that they the decided to pull a complete 180 and instead run some commercial real estate arbitrage scheme involving dead rats? Do you even hear yourself?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Front Page couple should just lease out the space to another restauranteur if they don't want to deal with the headache of the Washers.
Don't give the Washers the satisfaction of a distressed sale. Make them live next to a restaurant.
PS - why the hell would the Washers even live in a commercial property? I'm sure they are playing all sorts of tax games.
Exactly this. They want to buy as many commercial properties in The Plains for as cheaply as possible and then sell them off to developers. Very scuzzy people.
So your theory is that after spending $40,000 at the restaurant and making it wildly successful that they the decided to pull a complete 180 and instead run some commercial real estate arbitrage scheme involving dead rats? Do you even hear yourself?