Anonymous
06/05/2023 07:04
Subject: What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:Did this plane cause air traffic patterns to be diverted over DC? I was at the Nats game and noticed multiple planes pass directly overhead landing at National. I hadn’t seen that before, but maybe it’s normal?
I don’t know, but they can’t change the landing patterns. There are only two runways. What you’re describing sounds like the normal approach from the south along the river. It changes depending on the weather as far as which way they are coming.
If there a disruption there would be planes in a holding pattern or being diverted to other runways, but we wouldn’t notice it with regard to planes landing.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 06:57
Subject: What was the big boom?
Did this plane cause air traffic patterns to be diverted over DC? I was at the Nats game and noticed multiple planes pass directly overhead landing at National. I hadn’t seen that before, but maybe it’s normal?
Anonymous
06/05/2023 06:50
Subject: What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: Never fly in a private plane with only 1 pilot…
+100
I wonder if all passengers were passed out or just the pilot.
How does a plane fly 300 miles off course with no one noticing for so long!?!?
It sounds like rapid depressurization which means a copilot also would’ve been incapacitated.
What causes that to happen?
Anonymous
06/05/2023 06:30
Subject: What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How did it go 300 miles in the wrong direction and THEN turn around?
I don't think it went three hundred miles in the wrong direction? Looks like it flew to its destination and then not only didn't land, it turned around. Very weird. I was reading some aviation nerd reddit posts and it sounds like that's a feature of autopilot?
Sorry I must have misread. The reporting is confusing at best.
No, the reporting is not great, you're right about that. In their defense there's not a lot of information. They only found the crash site a couple hours ago.
But you do raise a good point. Was ATC not in contact with this pilot? How did he fly over a very crowded part of the country (I mean he basically flew the bottom half of the NE corridor), not land, and turn back around? It sounds like the Air Force attempted to intercept when he flew over DC the second time - because the first time he flew over Fredericksburg, but the second time he flew directly over DC, which is restricted. When did ATC lose contact with this plane?
The first time is it traveling normally. It doesn’t fly over DC. The turn may have been to set up for approach. Then the incident, then autopilot in a straight line. The last turn is just it running out of fuel and descending.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 04:46
Subject: Re:What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ELIAF what is a sonic boom?
When a plane goes faster than the speed of sound, there is a sonic boom. It’s the doppler effect; all the sound is essentially layered on top of each other and it’s loud AF.
- not a scientist
Also they are banned over the US. They've been banned since 1973 - too many lawsuits about noise and broken windows. This was a real emergency, not a drill.
Are all planes capable of creating sonic boom (even though yes, they are not allowed to)?
No. The (now defunct) concord could, contemporary fighter jets can - I think most if not all civilian and commercial aircraft can’t, but maybe I’m wrong.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 03:21
Subject: What was the big boom?
They were all asphyxiated sounds like
Anonymous
06/05/2023 02:16
Subject: What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: Never fly in a private plane with only 1 pilot…
+100
I wonder if all passengers were passed out or just the pilot.
How does a plane fly 300 miles off course with no one noticing for so long!?!?
It sounds like rapid depressurization which means a copilot also would’ve been incapacitated.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 01:48
Subject: What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:The owner of the plane, whose daughter and granddaughter died the crash, lost another daughter in a scuba diving accident at age 19.
Victoria Landing gets its name from Victoria Rumpel. Victoria was John’s daughter who died tragically at the young age of nineteen in a scuba diving accident. John honors the memory of his daughter with the Victoria Landing name. With that honor comes the responsibility to make Victoria Landing the very best it can be…in commemoration of Victoria and in celebration of everything life can and should be. Life is simply too precious.
https://victorialanding.com/our-history/
Poor family. Truly tragic to have 2 children die before you in separate incidents.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 01:27
Subject: What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ultimately nothing firmly citable... just interesting, and may not pan out. With air defense drills not scheduled until tomorrow, some reports claim a plane also crashed (not the sound) but that the sonic boom was from a plane in pursuit of the crashed plane.
https://twitter.com/killmoenetwork/status/1665448496290230273?s=61&t=PckSN3mS7uR02yTgDc2tCg
How about people not amplify bullshit like this?
I think you owe somebody an apology. The PP you are attacking was correct at about 4 pm.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 00:56
Subject: What was the big boom?
This is wild:
[twitter] https://twitter.com/mikeyoung44/status/1665452593269571584?s=20[/twitter]
The guy who owned the plane is an interesting character. Apparently the wife is in the leadership of the NRA, they are leaving their entire estate to the NRA.
Wtf?
This is going to be prime conspiracy fodder for the RWNJs.
[twitter] https://twitter.com/mikeyoung44/status/1665452593269571584?s=20[/twitter]
The guy who owned the plane is an interesting character. Apparently the wife is in the leadership of the NRA, they are leaving their entire estate to the NRA.
Wtf?
This is going to be prime conspiracy fodder for the RWNJs.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 00:06
Subject: What was the big boom?
They were unconscious and the plane was flying on autopilot?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: Never fly in a private plane with only 1 pilot…
+100
I wonder if all passengers were passed out or just the pilot.
How does a plane fly 300 miles off course with no one noticing for so long!?!?
Anonymous
06/05/2023 00:00
Subject: What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote: Never fly in a private plane with only 1 pilot…
+100
I wonder if all passengers were passed out or just the pilot.
How does a plane fly 300 miles off course with no one noticing for so long!?!?
Anonymous
06/04/2023 23:10
Subject: What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:A feature about the mother of the deceased woman and child, Barbara Rumpel, highlights her passion for shooting sports.
At the Whittington Center, Barbara and John co-mingle with individuals passionate about the shooting sports from around the world. Hearing their stories and how other countries have more limited perspectives on gun ownership helped Barbara understand the importance the legacy of the Founding Fathers left behind.
Whether it’s a passion for protecting our constitutional freedoms, the right to self defense, or the hunting tradition, the Second Amendment speaks to its supporters on a unique and individual basis.
https://www.nrawlf.org/our-members/barbara-rumpel/
People keep reporting on this and it feels...scuzzy to me? Like, big shocker, a rich businessman from Florida would be a right winger. Idk. Don't love their politics but it seems irrelevant and almost like people are treating their politics as part of the story. It's not. The plane had nothing to do with them being NRA members.
Anonymous
06/04/2023 23:04
Subject: What was the big boom?
A feature about the mother of the deceased woman and child, Barbara Rumpel, highlights her passion for shooting sports.
At the Whittington Center, Barbara and John co-mingle with individuals passionate about the shooting sports from around the world. Hearing their stories and how other countries have more limited perspectives on gun ownership helped Barbara understand the importance the legacy of the Founding Fathers left behind.
Whether it’s a passion for protecting our constitutional freedoms, the right to self defense, or the hunting tradition, the Second Amendment speaks to its supporters on a unique and individual basis.
https://www.nrawlf.org/our-members/barbara-rumpel/
At the Whittington Center, Barbara and John co-mingle with individuals passionate about the shooting sports from around the world. Hearing their stories and how other countries have more limited perspectives on gun ownership helped Barbara understand the importance the legacy of the Founding Fathers left behind.
Whether it’s a passion for protecting our constitutional freedoms, the right to self defense, or the hunting tradition, the Second Amendment speaks to its supporters on a unique and individual basis.
https://www.nrawlf.org/our-members/barbara-rumpel/
Anonymous
06/04/2023 22:52
Subject: What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How did it go 300 miles in the wrong direction and THEN turn around?
I don't think it went three hundred miles in the wrong direction? Looks like it flew to its destination and then not only didn't land, it turned around. Very weird. I was reading some aviation nerd reddit posts and it sounds like that's a feature of autopilot?
Sorry I must have misread. The reporting is confusing at best.
No, the reporting is not great, you're right about that. In their defense there's not a lot of information. They only found the crash site a couple hours ago.
But you do raise a good point. Was ATC not in contact with this pilot? How did he fly over a very crowded part of the country (I mean he basically flew the bottom half of the NE corridor), not land, and turn back around? It sounds like the Air Force attempted to intercept when he flew over DC the second time - because the first time he flew over Fredericksburg, but the second time he flew directly over DC, which is restricted. When did ATC lose contact with this plane?