Anonymous wrote:The real issue is kids aren't getting the proper education and need to get back to basics. The no textbooks, group projects and discussions and lack of teaching per MCPS mandates is when the academics started to decline.

Both schools and parents need to be held accountable.

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Anonymous wrote:I always thought at some point people would get tired of the MCEA and their similar groups, strong arming the council and the executive to get whatever they want.

I know I pay absolutely no mind to the apple ballot, but it's still a winner.

You'd think with the schools in decline, and them all championing a 10% property tax increase in the middle of high inflation and an economic downturn- that people would change their tune, but I doubt it.

Schools aren't in decline. I think you're confusing this with broad shifts in demographics that have gone on here over the past 2-3 decades. The same kid can do as well today as 30 years ago, maybe even better, but now we're a more diverse group with differing goals and values.

Schools are in decline. We can quibble about the degree of decline but the academic stats and performance are indisputably down from pre-pandemic for sure, and again, we debate the degree of the decline over the previous decade, but there are definitely schools where the decline is more tangible and felt than in others.

Denying this and attempting to paint anyone who feels that MCPS is not where it should as racist is the problem. I'm a black parent, and a product of MCPS myself and I feel the school system is not in a good place and needs to improve. So trot out another talking point because fear of demographic shifts won't work with me.

Anybody of any race or ethnicity can have fear of demographic shifts.

Why would I, as a black person, fear an increase in black and brown students? I volunteer at my black and brown majority school because I know they don't get the support of their majority white counterparts.

Again, pick another talking point. It won't work with me.

I don't know why you would, and I don't know that you do, but I do know that this is a thing. Anybody, from any demographic group, can have bigoted/racist beliefs, including about demographic groups that they themselves belong to.

Statistics aren't bigoted. It's rational to fear increased trouble from a demographic that has higher rates of trouble. That doesn't mean you hate the demographic, or blame everyone in that demographic, and doesn't mean you oppose improving social support that demographic, and doesn't mean you won't accept the risk because other values and concerns are more important.

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Anonymous wrote:I always thought at some point people would get tired of the MCEA and their similar groups, strong arming the council and the executive to get whatever they want.

I know I pay absolutely no mind to the apple ballot, but it's still a winner.

You'd think with the schools in decline, and them all championing a 10% property tax increase in the middle of high inflation and an economic downturn- that people would change their tune, but I doubt it.

Schools aren't in decline. I think you're confusing this with broad shifts in demographics that have gone on here over the past 2-3 decades. The same kid can do as well today as 30 years ago, maybe even better, but now we're a more diverse group with differing goals and values.

Schools are in decline. We can quibble about the degree of decline but the academic stats and performance are indisputably down from pre-pandemic for sure, and again, we debate the degree of the decline over the previous decade, but there are definitely schools where the decline is more tangible and felt than in others.

Denying this and attempting to paint anyone who feels that MCPS is not where it should as racist is the problem. I'm a black parent, and a product of MCPS myself and I feel the school system is not in a good place and needs to improve. So trot out another talking point because fear of demographic shifts won't work with me.

Anybody of any race or ethnicity can have fear of demographic shifts.

Why would I, as a black person, fear an increase in black and brown students? I volunteer at my black and brown majority school because I know they don't get the support of their majority white counterparts.

Again, pick another talking point. It won't work with me.

I don't know why you would, and I don't know that you do, but I do know that this is a thing. Anybody, from any demographic group, can have bigoted/racist beliefs, including about demographic groups that they themselves belong to.

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Anonymous wrote:Back on topic the superintendent and board got knocked down a few pegs today. So MCEA even though they weren’t physically present at the table.

How so?

MCPS/BOE tried to get the committee’s cuts restored by the full council. Not only did that fail, but nine of the council members lectured them on poor performance, transparency, bullying, and fiscal responsibility.

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Anonymous wrote:Back on topic the superintendent and board got knocked down a few pegs today. So MCEA even though they weren’t physically present at the table.

How so?

Anonymous wrote:The real issue is kids aren't getting the proper education and need to get back to basics. The no textbooks, group projects and discussions and lack of teaching per MCPS mandates is when the academics started to decline.

Both schools and parents need to be held accountable.

Anonymous wrote:Back on topic the superintendent and board got knocked down a few pegs today. So MCEA even though they weren’t physically present at the table.

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Anonymous wrote:Back on topic the superintendent and board got knocked down a few pegs today. So MCEA even though they weren’t physically present at the table.

By who? What are you even talking about?

Anonymous wrote:Back on topic the superintendent and board got knocked down a few pegs today. So MCEA even though they weren’t physically present at the table.

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Anonymous wrote:I always thought at some point people would get tired of the MCEA and their similar groups, strong arming the council and the executive to get whatever they want.

I know I pay absolutely no mind to the apple ballot, but it's still a winner.

You'd think with the schools in decline, and them all championing a 10% property tax increase in the middle of high inflation and an economic downturn- that people would change their tune, but I doubt it.

Schools aren't in decline. I think you're confusing this with broad shifts in demographics that have gone on here over the past 2-3 decades. The same kid can do as well today as 30 years ago, maybe even better, but now we're a more diverse group with differing goals and values.

Schools are in decline. We can quibble about the degree of decline but the academic stats and performance are indisputably down from pre-pandemic for sure, and again, we debate the degree of the decline over the previous decade, but there are definitely schools where the decline is more tangible and felt than in others.

Denying this and attempting to paint anyone who feels that MCPS is not where it should as racist is the problem. I'm a black parent, and a product of MCPS myself and I feel the school system is not in a good place and needs to improve. So trot out another talking point because fear of demographic shifts won't work with me.

Anybody of any race or ethnicity can have fear of demographic shifts.

Why would I, as a black person, fear an increase in black and brown students? I volunteer at my black and brown majority school because I know they don't get the support of their majority white counterparts.

Again, pick another talking point. It won't work with me.

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Anonymous wrote:I always thought at some point people would get tired of the MCEA and their similar groups, strong arming the council and the executive to get whatever they want.

I know I pay absolutely no mind to the apple ballot, but it's still a winner.

You'd think with the schools in decline, and them all championing a 10% property tax increase in the middle of high inflation and an economic downturn- that people would change their tune, but I doubt it.

Schools aren't in decline. I think you're confusing this with broad shifts in demographics that have gone on here over the past 2-3 decades. The same kid can do as well today as 30 years ago, maybe even better, but now we're a more diverse group with differing goals and values.

As an MCPS graduate and current parent- I think they absolutely are in decline- with the exception of pockets of very wealthy areas.

I grew up in East County and went to Springbrook, but you could tell a similar story about most schools now besides a select few.

I went to a W but my kids attend east county schools. They're getting a great education which is much better than mine. I think it's because I don't expect the county to raise them and I also spend time with them. Parental involvement helps.