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Anonymous wrote:1. Heard many kids say after Covid: I want to be outside, and working with others.

2. That’s a rich kid job, so his HYSP school made him upwardly mobile 😉. Congrats!

3. He’ll be richer for his experiences and have a life that’s fun to talk about.

4. When he’s ready for something else, he’ll do fine.

Nope. Rich kids work high paying jobs.

Nope. They don't have to.

I don't think you know any rich ppl and your view is what typical UMC ppl do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Heard many kids say after Covid: I want to be outside, and working with others.

2. That’s a rich kid job, so his HYSP school made him upwardly mobile 😉. Congrats!

3. He’ll be richer for his experiences and have a life that’s fun to talk about.

4. When he’s ready for something else, he’ll do fine.

Nope. Rich kids work high paying jobs.

Anonymous wrote:1. Heard many kids say after Covid: I want to be outside, and working with others.

2. That’s a rich kid job, so his HYSP school made him upwardly mobile 😉. Congrats!

3. He’ll be richer for his experiences and have a life that’s fun to talk about.

4. When he’s ready for something else, he’ll do fine.

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Anonymous wrote:When you major in useless easy stuff

Now majoring in Math is a useless easy degree?

DP. But yes, it certainly can be. Some of the laziest people I know are mathematicians, pi in the sky and all that, it can very much be a naval gazing humanities degree. To the extent employers think otherwise, that’s a fairly recent development.

But, if graduated without debt, he’ll be self sustaining as a kayak guide, so good enough.

“Ivy League stem degrees” don’t even have labs, nor compare in level of difficulty or skills learned to a earn a math or engineering BS degree from Georgia tech, Carnegie Mellon, MIT, a service academy, CalTech, or top flagship state schools. And certainly can’t hold a candle to math at IIt, Oxbridge, Todai, ecole systems.

Ask anyone that hires or wants the trainability of a true mathematician what they think of the coursework and driven of HYP math major.

Anonymous wrote:1. Heard many kids say after Covid: I want to be outside, and working with others.

2. That’s a rich kid job, so his HYSP school made him upwardly mobile 😉. Congrats!

3. He’ll be richer for his experiences and have a life that’s fun to talk about.

4. When he’s ready for something else, he’ll do fine.

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Anonymous wrote:This is fun and enjoyable and like a gap year. I know a kid who graduated from one of these schools, worked as a backwoods hiking guide for a year, then joined a top tier investment bank.

Interesting point.

Op- find out if the kid secured a job offer and is deferring 12 months.

That is common in banking and consulting during a downturn. They hire 6-12 mos before the summer training program begins and instead of rescinding offers they offer deferrals.

This is happening. Just like in 2001 and 2008/09. Deferred start dates.

Any news articles on that?

WSJ has done a couple.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mckinsey-bain-hire-new-m-b-a-s-but-they-may-not-work-for-months-d805f14b

https://www.wsj.com/articles/jobs-new-college-graduates-2023-labor-market-openings-7195e28

Meant for 2001 & 2008/2009, not 2023

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you major in useless easy stuff

Now majoring in Math is a useless easy degree?

DP. But yes, it certainly can be. Some of the laziest people I know are mathematicians, pi in the sky and all that, it can very much be a naval gazing humanities degree. To the extent employers think otherwise, that’s a fairly recent development.

But, if graduated without debt, he’ll be self sustaining as a kayak guide, so good enough.

“Ivy League stem degrees” don’t even have labs, nor compare in level of difficulty or skills learned to a earn a math or engineering BS degree from Georgia tech, Carnegie Mellon, MIT, a service academy, CalTech, or top flagship state schools. And certainly can’t hold a candle to math at IIt, Oxbridge, Todai, ecole systems.

Ask anyone that hires or wants the trainability of a true mathematician what they think of the coursework and driven of HYP math major.

According to U.S. News & World Report, Princeton ties with MIT for #1 for its Math department. Harvard ties with a few others for #3. https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/mathematics-rankings

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you major in useless easy stuff

Now majoring in Math is a useless easy degree?

DP. But yes, it certainly can be. Some of the laziest people I know are mathematicians, pi in the sky and all that, it can very much be a naval gazing humanities degree. To the extent employers think otherwise, that’s a fairly recent development.

But, if graduated without debt, he’ll be self sustaining as a kayak guide, so good enough.

“Ivy League stem degrees” don’t even have labs, nor compare in level of difficulty or skills learned to a earn a math or engineering BS degree from Georgia tech, Carnegie Mellon, MIT, a service academy, CalTech, or top flagship state schools. And certainly can’t hold a candle to math at IIt, Oxbridge, Todai, ecole systems.

Ask anyone that hires or wants the trainability of a true mathematician what they think of the coursework and driven of HYP math major.

Anonymous wrote:Why do highly credentialed HYPS grads accept crap jobs after graduation?

My neighbor’s son is a senior at a HYPS right now, and she told me that her son just accepted a job offer after graduation. When I asked her what the job is, she told me that her son is moving to Oregon to be a full-time whitewater kayaking instructor.

I was bewildered by this. With a math degree from HYPS, I would assume he’d get a great job offer at graduation.

Oh and for the record, it’s not like he is a rich kid who can rely on his parents — he is solidly middle class and went to his college on a good amount of financial aid.

Anonymous wrote:Why do highly credentialed HYPS grads accept crap jobs after graduation?

My neighbor’s son is a senior at a HYPS right now, and she told me that her son just accepted a job offer after graduation. When I asked her what the job is, she told me that her son is moving to Oregon to be a full-time whitewater kayaking instructor.

I was bewildered by this. With a math degree from HYPS, I would assume he’d get a great job offer at graduation.

Oh and for the record, it’s not like he is a rich kid who can rely on his parents — he is solidly middle class and went to his college on a good amount of financial aid.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is fun and enjoyable and like a gap year. I know a kid who graduated from one of these schools, worked as a backwoods hiking guide for a year, then joined a top tier investment bank.

Interesting point.

Op- find out if the kid secured a job offer and is deferring 12 months.

That is common in banking and consulting during a downturn. They hire 6-12 mos before the summer training program begins and instead of rescinding offers they offer deferrals.

This is happening. Just like in 2001 and 2008/09. Deferred start dates.

Any news articles on that?

WSJ has done a couple.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mckinsey-bain-hire-new-m-b-a-s-but-they-may-not-work-for-months-d805f14b

https://www.wsj.com/articles/jobs-new-college-graduates-2023-labor-market-openings-7195e28

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you major in useless easy stuff

Now majoring in Math is a useless easy degree?

DP. But yes, it certainly can be. Some of the laziest people I know are mathematicians, pi in the sky and all that, it can very much be a naval gazing humanities degree. To the extent employers think otherwise, that’s a fairly recent development.

But, if graduated without debt, he’ll be self sustaining as a kayak guide, so good enough.

“Ivy League stem degrees” don’t even have labs, nor compare in level of difficulty or skills learned to a earn a math or engineering BS degree from Georgia tech, Carnegie Mellon, MIT, a service academy, CalTech, or top flagship state schools. And certainly can’t hold a candle to math at IIt, Oxbridge, Todai, ecole systems.

Ask anyone that hires or wants the trainability of a true mathematician what they think of the coursework and driven of HYP math major.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is fun and enjoyable and like a gap year. I know a kid who graduated from one of these schools, worked as a backwoods hiking guide for a year, then joined a top tier investment bank.

Interesting point.

Op- find out if the kid secured a job offer and is deferring 12 months.

That is common in banking and consulting during a downturn. They hire 6-12 mos before the summer training program begins and instead of rescinding offers they offer deferrals.

This is happening. Just like in 2001 and 2008/09. Deferred start dates.

Any news articles on that?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you major in useless easy stuff

Now majoring in Math is a useless easy degree?

DP. But yes, it certainly can be. Some of the laziest people I know are mathematicians, pi in the sky and all that, it can very much be a naval gazing humanities degree. To the extent employers think otherwise, that’s a fairly recent development.

But, if graduated without debt, he’ll be self sustaining as a kayak guide, so good enough.

“Ivy League stem degrees” don’t even have labs, nor compare in level of difficulty or skills learned to a earn a math or engineering BS degree from Georgia tech, Carnegie Mellon, MIT, a service academy, CalTech, or top flagship state schools. And certainly can’t hold a candle to math at IIt, Oxbridge, Todai, ecole systems.

Ask anyone that hires or wants the trainability of a true mathematician what they think of the coursework and driven of HYP math major.

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Huh? Where are you getting your source.