I HATE this ad! It's so cringey!

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Anonymous wrote:The person who thinks all the negativity is from older women is incorrect, I'm one of the pps and I'm Gen X.

You are an older woman.

—another Gen X woman

I wasn't clear, I'm Gen X and I'm supportive of women choosing to do what they want with their own body hair. So I'm older and positive about the girl's appearance. Not all older women on this thread are judging.

Gen X-er posted it’s older millennials and GenXs complaining. Very happy to see an ad where a girl accepts her unconventional features. Definitely not all of us “older women” find the ad offensive/repulsive/gross! My point was the marketing/ad company isn’t trying to get our $$. They want the Gen Z $$.

I would be interested in seeing a breakdown on how this ad is viewed by geriatric millennial women vs Gen X women. I’m likely being overly optimistic in thinking the Gen Xers would have a higher percentage of women who have a “whatever” to “you go girl” attitude, but as a younger (hah!) GenXer my millennial friends are more concerned about fitting into mainstream standards for appearance than my GenX friends. Ancedata, but something I hadn’t really thought of before.

Anonymous wrote:I find it to fascinating that someone made this a post because the ad also makes me VERY uncomfortable and I consider myself a woman that is for body positivity, nonbinary, women with body hair etc. I feel like the more powerful ad would be if she accepts her mustache but I find it so weird she goes from being uncomfortable to going the other direction of being over the top. No teenage is going to walk into school and dance around like that. It just seems bizarrely untrue to life. Had she just kept the mustache without the costume/dance--that would have been touching.

That's my theory of my reaction anyhow....

There is a fantasy like feel to the commercial, so I think it’s not supposed to be truly realistic. At least I think. Ads like this remind me that I’m getting old and that more and more often I’m not going to “get it”. To me, they are a beautiful girl/person who wears makeup well, cares about their clothes, has a fashion point of view, and even though someone tried to make their brows “natural”, those were definitely professionally shaped. So it doesn’t follow that this person wouldn’t wax or bleach if they didn’t like the moustache. And if they have hair because of hormones, then I’m not sure why they would be unhappy with it. It seems like an ad that someone without real knowledge would put together. Like if a person time warped from the 60’s made an ad about coming out as bi to your gay parents. Just off somehow.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it fair to say most women don’t like facial hair and take steps to minimize or remove it?

Yes. A fair and accurate assessment.

Can anyone name a culture on earth where women are considered more beautiful with a mustache?

I think the commercial should have had her embracing her curly hair instead. A lot of women could relate.

India, Italy and Honduras

Do you need more?

India? I don’t think so.
https://www.outlookindia.com/national/meet-kerala-woman-whose-moustache-is-breaking-patriarchal-beauty-standards-in-india-news-212574/amp

Literally an Indian woman wearing facial hair.

That says she is breaking social norms in India and she was made fun of all her life.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it fair to say most women don’t like facial hair and take steps to minimize or remove it?

Yes. A fair and accurate assessment.

Can anyone name a culture on earth where women are considered more beautiful with a mustache?

I think the commercial should have had her embracing her curly hair instead. A lot of women could relate.

India, Italy and Honduras

Do you need more?

India? I don’t think so.
https://www.outlookindia.com/national/meet-kerala-woman-whose-moustache-is-breaking-patriarchal-beauty-standards-in-india-news-212574/amp

Literally an Indian woman wearing facial hair.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it fair to say most women don’t like facial hair and take steps to minimize or remove it?

Yes. A fair and accurate assessment.

Can anyone name a culture on earth where women are considered more beautiful with a mustache?

I think the commercial should have had her embracing her curly hair instead. A lot of women could relate.

India, Italy and Honduras

Do you need more?

India? I don’t think so.
https://www.outlookindia.com/national/meet-kerala-woman-whose-moustache-is-breaking-patriarchal-beauty-standards-in-india-news-212574/amp

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Anonymous wrote:Is it fair to say most women don’t like facial hair and take steps to minimize or remove it?

Yes. A fair and accurate assessment.

Can anyone name a culture on earth where women are considered more beautiful with a mustache?

I think the commercial should have had her embracing her curly hair instead. A lot of women could relate.

India, Italy and Honduras

Do you need more?

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Anonymous wrote:It freaked me out. What was that about? Was it something with trans?

I hadn't seen it until I saw this thread. I'm a trans woman and after watching it, it seems pretty obvious to me that the person in the video is a nonbinary AFAB person, most likely on testosterone. It's clearly queer coded and the person is clearly supposed to be gender nonconforming and almost certainly nonbinary. They could have made it more obvious with something like a trans flag but that's probably too on the nose for cis viewers. I'd wager the only reason that there wasn't a blahaj in the video is because it's an Ikea product. If you're not familiar, it's a large and inexpensive stuffed shark from Ikea that happens to have the same colors as the trans flag and has become a thing in trans culture.

I don’t know. I thought it was about a girl accepting herself as she is with a mustache rather than conform to societal standards, as many women have a mustache if they don’t wax it off. I don’t think everyone nonconforming to societal standards needs to be trans or non-binary. Yes, I’m cis, but also that’s my take on it and the audience is everyone. Maybe it’s vague so we can all take from it as we see fit, and in that case it’s well done. We can all see ourselves in that girl.

I don’t like it mostly because I think, to me, it’s like she wants desperately to find acceptance through buying things on Amazon. It’s just a weird message.

+1

I assumed it was about a woman unlearning toxic beauty standards. Why does everything like this have to mean "queer coded"? This is like how they decided Nymphadora Tonks had to be nonbinary because being a tomboy or an unconventional woman was bigoted.

+1000

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else hate this ad? Please get rid of the mustache and leave Freddie Mercury alone

It's a hateful ad.

Shocking it comes from Amazon.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it fair to say most women don’t like facial hair and take steps to minimize or remove it?

Yes. A fair and accurate assessment.

Can anyone name a culture on earth where women are considered more beautiful with a mustache?

I think the commercial should have had her embracing her curly hair instead. A lot of women could relate.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw on Twitter that the model has booked a campaign with Nike.

In general, this ad is getting really bad feedback. They should just share the shortened version.

Why? Because facial hair on women is offensive to you?

I"m not PP, but while I don't find it offiensive, I do find it very unattractive.

Do you like it?

I do have friends with hair on their face and they are attractive.

Not with a mustache they aren’t.

They are very very pretty actually.

Just like most white women made fun of big butts but alas, now we realize they are amazing.

Anonymous wrote:Is it fair to say most women don’t like facial hair and take steps to minimize or remove it?

It’s fair to say society in the US has told women they are ugly with it so they try to remove it.

Boys are waxing their brows because girls make fun of unibrows.

Is it fair to say most boys don’t GAF about unibrows but wax them due to societal pressure?

Anonymous wrote:Is it fair to say most women don’t like facial hair and take steps to minimize or remove it?

Yes. A fair and accurate assessment.

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Anonymous wrote:The person who thinks all the negativity is from older women is incorrect, I'm one of the pps and I'm Gen X.

I'm a negative elder Millenial.

Sorry, but also an older woman.

Yeah I know that. I'm just stating that we elder millennials maintain exacting standards. Workout, dress up, and don't let everything grow freely. Have some self respect.

I do all of those things, too, but it’s interesting that you equate it with self-respect. It’s just learned behavior, nothing more. Strict adherence to cultural norms is really more about following without questioning, about wanting to fit in. I’d argue that the people who go against the grain really have more self respect.

One of the defining symptoms of depression is not grooming up to normal standards. It's not a far stretch to day that people who don't groom per conventional social standards may be suffering from self worth issues.

I've noticed that in Florida, some women are growing sparse beards and it appears to be a fashion choice. I don't think it enhances their looks but it is a conscious grooming choice, at least. Even in that case, I'm opposed to it. Part of being human is appreciating and seeking beauty. There is something perverse and against the human spirit to actively cultivate ugliness-- in looks, in interior design, etc and then pretend that people are lesser for reacting negatively (as humans do) to ugliness.

Gosh. If some of them are, do you think it might be because people are already telling them they’re ugly/weird/etc. I guarantee you, in a lot of cases where young women have stopped caring about body or facial hair, they were already targets for others’ mean comments. Waxing wasn’t going to get them anywhere. They’re dammed if they do and damned if they don’t, because so many women—the ones with the real self-worth issues—just need someone to cut down to feel ok about themselves.

I find it to fascinating that someone made this a post because the ad also makes me VERY uncomfortable and I consider myself a woman that is for body positivity, nonbinary, women with body hair etc. I feel like the more powerful ad would be if she accepts her mustache but I find it so weird she goes from being uncomfortable to going the other direction of being over the top. No teenage is going to walk into school and dance around like that. It just seems bizarrely untrue to life. Had she just kept the mustache without the costume/dance--that would have been touching.

That's my theory of my reaction anyhow....