Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 18:27     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

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She is your daughter & you have a right & a duty to be concerned.

Have a polite & calm discussion with your daughter.


Totally agree with this advice. Your instincts are right, and this is a red alert... No one loves your kid like you and her dad do. I would lovingly and calmly find out what her thinking is. Help her to see she is a beautiful human being -- inside and out -- and that fashion, how we groom, etc. communicates who we are within the current cultural context. We all don uniforms of sorts... What uniform is she trying to wear? Yes, fashions change, but what is the message she is signaling right now through this fashion choice? The uniform she chooses will also shape how she sees herself.

Ask what she thinks she's saying by not shaving. Then find out where this is coming from. Who or what has caused her to develop this philosophy? Someone from school? A friend? Someone on social media? Why does the source's opinion matter?

At best, maybe she's just afraid she'll cut herself with the razor. Who even likes to shave, right? At worst, someone could be lying to her about who she is as a young woman, and she has taken her first steps down a dangerous path. Save your child from the disaster you sense could be ahead.




Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 18:25     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a personal question and you kept pressing. Stop being critical.


She is your daughter & you have a right & a duty to be concerned.

Have a polite & calm discussion with your daughter.


+1. If nothing else it's poor hygiene and looks dirty. I put it in the same category of - you must shower, you must wash your hair, you must keep yourself clean and presentable looking.

I wouldn't push right off the bat, but I would start a conversation and let her know that this is something that, as an adult, she needs to take care of.


No, it isn’t, and I sure hope you apply these exact same standards to boys.


DP but I would prefer my son shaved his armpits. I don’t insist because I have no idea what’s common among boys his age.


Why would you prefer that? I shave but shaving increases the risk of infection and has no actual health benefits. It's much better to just wash with soap.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 18:24     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

Anonymous wrote:It’s so weird that one poster never came back to answer why body hair is unhygienic for girls, but fine for boys 🤔


Agreed. SO weird. Wonder why that is?
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 18:22     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It’s a personal question and you kept pressing. Stop being critical.


She is your daughter & you have a right & a duty to be concerned.

Have a polite & calm discussion with your daughter.


+1. If nothing else it's poor hygiene and looks dirty. I put it in the same category of - you must shower, you must wash your hair, you must keep yourself clean and presentable looking.

I wouldn't push right off the bat, but I would start a conversation and let her know that this is something that, as an adult, she needs to take care of.


No, it isn’t, and I sure hope you apply these exact same standards to boys.


DP but I would prefer my son shaved his armpits. I don’t insist because I have no idea what’s common among boys his age.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 18:20     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

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Anonymous wrote:You need to get over it OP, maybe she will go back to shaving, or maybe she won't. Either way, it's her body, her choice.


If she was 25, I would agree with you. At 15, she needs maternal guidance.


Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 18:20     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It’s a personal question and you kept pressing. Stop being critical.


She is your daughter & you have a right & a duty to be concerned.

Have a polite & calm discussion with your daughter.


+1. If nothing else it's poor hygiene and looks dirty. I put it in the same category of - you must shower, you must wash your hair, you must keep yourself clean and presentable looking.

I wouldn't push right off the bat, but I would start a conversation and let her know that this is something that, as an adult, she needs to take care of.


No, it isn’t, and I sure hope you apply these exact same standards to boys.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 18:19     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

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Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!


This article is mostly about armpit hair but OPs daughter is hardly alone, younger women are shaving less than we did
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/gen-z-gals-on-growing-out-body-hair-its-sexy-and-empowering/"35 percent of Americans have no preference if women shave or not, while 7 percent said they should not shave. For respondents between the ages of 18 and 35, female fur proved to be even less of an issue, with a majority confessing that they either find armpit hair attractive or don’t care if a woman has it."


I’d like to meet a man openly admitting he prefers no hair in our turbulent times


Don’t worry, there are plenty of Andrew Tates out there


Hm, fewer than you think, or at least those who are open about it. Even a DH won’t always tell his DW he prefers when she shaves.


Nope. There are way more Andrew Tate fans than you could imagine. And even a non-radical 16-year old boy who doesn’t have great social graces will have no problem loudly proclaiming that he thinks leg hair on girls is gross.

I will say though that I personally would never say to my daughter “hey fyi boys like it when you do like this” with the heavy implication that they should do it. Boys also like tight clothes, right?

Luckily plenty of girls don’t care what that type of boy wants



Disagree. They care, plenty.


Sure. Insecure girls or girls who like dude-bros care. Many many girls and women don't care. Personally I'd like to attract a person who accepts me for who I am and appreciates how I like to express myself.


But you’d like someone who is good looking, not socially awkward, earns a good salary?
-DP


Ha!
Unless she's hooking ip with someone in sales, there is no correlation.
Now a full head of hair..



I am a woman but if I were a good looking high earning male, why would I date someone who isn’t shaving if there are so many women who do? Sure I could be struck by the lightning of love but let’s be realistic? Sorry if I am not progressive enough


Fifteen is too young to worry about this, but regardless, women who do things like sport hairy legs, dye their hair purple, wear doc martins, etc. are not on the lookout for a high-earning male. They will not be shocked to learn that men gunning for c-suite positions passed them over for blonde with smooth legs in heels.


Eh, first woman who comes to mind when you say purple hair and Docs is a college friend who married a c-suite tech guy. So.


Ugh, I knew somebody would say something like this. Silly of me to not put "generally" or "majority" or something in there.

But yes, does she shave her legs? Also, was she actually out to marry a rich man or did she just happen to marry a rich man?
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 18:18     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s a personal question and you kept pressing. Stop being critical.


She is your daughter & you have a right & a duty to be concerned.

Have a polite & calm discussion with your daughter.


ROFL
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 18:16     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

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Anonymous wrote:What I would say:
Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!


This article is mostly about armpit hair but OPs daughter is hardly alone, younger women are shaving less than we did
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/gen-z-gals-on-growing-out-body-hair-its-sexy-and-empowering/"35 percent of Americans have no preference if women shave or not, while 7 percent said they should not shave. For respondents between the ages of 18 and 35, female fur proved to be even less of an issue, with a majority confessing that they either find armpit hair attractive or don’t care if a woman has it."


I’d like to meet a man openly admitting he prefers no hair in our turbulent times


Don’t worry, there are plenty of Andrew Tates out there


Hm, fewer than you think, or at least those who are open about it. Even a DH won’t always tell his DW he prefers when she shaves.


Nope. There are way more Andrew Tate fans than you could imagine. And even a non-radical 16-year old boy who doesn’t have great social graces will have no problem loudly proclaiming that he thinks leg hair on girls is gross.

I will say though that I personally would never say to my daughter “hey fyi boys like it when you do like this” with the heavy implication that they should do it. Boys also like tight clothes, right?

Luckily plenty of girls don’t care what that type of boy wants



Disagree. They care, plenty.


Sure. Insecure girls or girls who like dude-bros care. Many many girls and women don't care. Personally I'd like to attract a person who accepts me for who I am and appreciates how I like to express myself.


But you’d like someone who is good looking, not socially awkward, earns a good salary?
-DP


Ha!
Unless she's hooking ip with someone in sales, there is no correlation.
Now a full head of hair..



I am a woman but if I were a good looking high earning male, why would I date someone who isn’t shaving if there are so many women who do? Sure I could be struck by the lightning of love but let’s be realistic? Sorry if I am not progressive enough


Fifteen is too young to worry about this, but regardless, women who do things like sport hairy legs, dye their hair purple, wear doc martins, etc. are not on the lookout for a high-earning male. They will not be shocked to learn that men gunning for c-suite positions passed them over for blonde with smooth legs in heels.


Eh, first woman who comes to mind when you say purple hair and Docs is a college friend who married a c-suite tech guy. So.

But did she shave her legs?!
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 18:14     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

Anonymous wrote:Serious question, are people really looking that closely at people’s legs at the pool or beach? Because that’s really gross on many levels. Secondly, who cares if someone has hair or not?


Sometimes you can’t help but notice
Also I think a lot of people care, for a number of reasons
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 18:13     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:What I would say:
Look, I can tell you that no matter what they say, and especially what other girls or women say, most boys and men prefer shaved. Now, I am not saying you should make sacrifices to be liked by boys better. All I am saying is that’s a well known fact, it’s just not ok to say it outright anymore because equality and all that. It is up to you how to deal with the knowledge I shared with you, I am not going to come back to this conversation unless you bring it up, and thank you for listening despite feeling uncomfortable!


This article is mostly about armpit hair but OPs daughter is hardly alone, younger women are shaving less than we did
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/gen-z-gals-on-growing-out-body-hair-its-sexy-and-empowering/"35 percent of Americans have no preference if women shave or not, while 7 percent said they should not shave. For respondents between the ages of 18 and 35, female fur proved to be even less of an issue, with a majority confessing that they either find armpit hair attractive or don’t care if a woman has it."


I’d like to meet a man openly admitting he prefers no hair in our turbulent times


Don’t worry, there are plenty of Andrew Tates out there


Hm, fewer than you think, or at least those who are open about it. Even a DH won’t always tell his DW he prefers when she shaves.


Nope. There are way more Andrew Tate fans than you could imagine. And even a non-radical 16-year old boy who doesn’t have great social graces will have no problem loudly proclaiming that he thinks leg hair on girls is gross.

I will say though that I personally would never say to my daughter “hey fyi boys like it when you do like this” with the heavy implication that they should do it. Boys also like tight clothes, right?

Luckily plenty of girls don’t care what that type of boy wants



Disagree. They care, plenty.


Sure. Insecure girls or girls who like dude-bros care. Many many girls and women don't care. Personally I'd like to attract a person who accepts me for who I am and appreciates how I like to express myself.


But you’d like someone who is good looking, not socially awkward, earns a good salary?
-DP


Ha!
Unless she's hooking ip with someone in sales, there is no correlation.
Now a full head of hair..



I am a woman but if I were a good looking high earning male, why would I date someone who isn’t shaving if there are so many women who do? Sure I could be struck by the lightning of love but let’s be realistic? Sorry if I am not progressive enough


Fifteen is too young to worry about this, but regardless, women who do things like sport hairy legs, dye their hair purple, wear doc martins, etc. are not on the lookout for a high-earning male. They will not be shocked to learn that men gunning for c-suite positions passed them over for blonde with smooth legs in heels.


I was one of those. For the longest time I didn’t realize it really shaped my dating pool. Maybe others are smarter but I just wish I changed earlier
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 18:10     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

Anonymous wrote:Just read the OP. Hope this is a troll. Horrible mother if not.


Wtf kind of hostility towards the op is this? Do you feel better now, after accusing op of being a troll and a horrible mother, even though you know nothing about her? She never said she even gave her daughter an opinion about not shaving, she only offered to get razors if she needed them. What is wrong with people anymore?
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 17:53     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

Just read the OP. Hope this is a troll. Horrible mother if not.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 17:47     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s a personal question and you kept pressing. Stop being critical.


She is your daughter & you have a right & a duty to be concerned.

Have a polite & calm discussion with your daughter.


+1. If nothing else it's poor hygiene and looks dirty. I put it in the same category of - you must shower, you must wash your hair, you must keep yourself clean and presentable looking.

I wouldn't push right off the bat, but I would start a conversation and let her know that this is something that, as an adult, she needs to take care of.


What?!

You probably refer to breasts as Dirty Pillows.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 17:41     Subject: DD suddenly stops shaving

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Anonymous wrote:I have never shaved. It's people who think that the prepubescent look should be the norm who are weird, not your daughter. Leave her alone.


Cannot believe there are grown women that don’t at least shave bikini line. Do you never wear a swimsuit or just don’t care that pubes hang out?


I haven’t shaved in a years. Like many moms, I wear swim shorts and a rash guard now.