Anonymous
04/08/2023 23:15
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I would not automatically be impressed with ANY of these colleges. It all depends on HOW they got in!
and WHAT they are studying
To an extent. Pretty much any field (with possibly some exceptions) can be impressive if that's what they are interested and good in
Pretty much any college is impressive then
You missed the part where I said it all depends on HOW the student got in
HOW they got in? We need to stop kidding ourselves about junk like this!
Outside of literally a few kids of massive donors, all kids at these colleges have to be impressive in multiple ways (legacy kids, recruited athletes, and all sexes and races included). You'll never truly know the "how." For example, I went to high school with a relative of a pro sports team owner. She was supremely qualified as a student, leader, and major EC award winner but I'm sure many at her top college made assumptions based on who in her family had gone there and their known history of generocity.
Oh puhleeze, there are many who get in not really because they were such great students. Have you been living under a rock?
Your incorrect assumption is that an AO is just trying or should just be trying to admit a class of current "such great students." Students with particular potential (Presidents like Nixon and Obama were not standout freshmen applicants and were not admitted to "impressive" colleges though an AO would likely view a rejection of such a future president as a mistake in hindsight) or strengths the college and its community value are fine to admit and are no less "deserving."
Anonymous
04/08/2023 23:09
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I would not automatically be impressed with ANY of these colleges. It all depends on HOW they got in!
and WHAT they are studying
To an extent. Pretty much any field (with possibly some exceptions) can be impressive if that's what they are interested and good in
Pretty much any college is impressive then
You missed the part where I said it all depends on HOW the student got in
HOW they got in? We need to stop kidding ourselves about junk like this!
Outside of literally a few kids of massive donors, all kids at these colleges have to be impressive in multiple ways (legacy kids, recruited athletes, and all sexes and races included). You'll never truly know the "how." For example, I went to high school with a relative of a pro sports team owner. She was supremely qualified as a student, leader, and major EC award winner but I'm sure many at her top college made assumptions based on who in her family had gone there and their known history of generocity.
This “supremely qualified” classmate of yours also had unlimited resources. Not as impressive as another supremely qualified student from a poor family
I actually picked that particular example hoping for this response
Given that resources do vary so much, we shouldn't be looking at just the highest GPA, test scores, and often BS ECs on their face! Being a "qualified student" just can't be easily compared and context matters.
The assumptions on this board are just unfair. There is no fundamental notion of desert when it comes to attending an "impressive" college.
Anonymous
04/08/2023 22:53
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I would not automatically be impressed with ANY of these colleges. It all depends on HOW they got in!
and WHAT they are studying
To an extent. Pretty much any field (with possibly some exceptions) can be impressive if that's what they are interested and good in
Pretty much any college is impressive then
You missed the part where I said it all depends on HOW the student got in
HOW they got in? We need to stop kidding ourselves about junk like this!
Outside of literally a few kids of massive donors, all kids at these colleges have to be impressive in multiple ways (legacy kids, recruited athletes, and all sexes and races included). You'll never truly know the "how." For example, I went to high school with a relative of a pro sports team owner. She was supremely qualified as a student, leader, and major EC award winner but I'm sure many at her top college made assumptions based on who in her family had gone there and their known history of generocity.
This “supremely qualified” classmate of yours also had unlimited resources. Not as impressive as another supremely qualified student from a poor family
Anonymous
04/08/2023 22:44
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I would not automatically be impressed with ANY of these colleges. It all depends on HOW they got in!
and WHAT they are studying
To an extent. Pretty much any field (with possibly some exceptions) can be impressive if that's what they are interested and good in
Pretty much any college is impressive then
You missed the part where I said it all depends on HOW the student got in
HOW they got in? We need to stop kidding ourselves about junk like this!
Outside of literally a few kids of massive donors, all kids at these colleges have to be impressive in multiple ways (legacy kids, recruited athletes, and all sexes and races included). You'll never truly know the "how." For example, I went to high school with a relative of a pro sports team owner. She was supremely qualified as a student, leader, and major EC award winner but I'm sure many at her top college made assumptions based on who in her family had gone there and their known history of generocity.
Oh puhleeze, there are many who get in not really because they were such great students. Have you been living under a rock?
Anonymous
04/08/2023 22:42
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I would not automatically be impressed with ANY of these colleges. It all depends on HOW they got in!
and WHAT they are studying
To an extent. Pretty much any field (with possibly some exceptions) can be impressive if that's what they are interested and good in
Pretty much any college is impressive then
You missed the part where I said it all depends on HOW the student got in
This last how comment is just sad. Did someone less deserving also get "your" promotion?
You seem to have problems with reading comprehension
Anonymous
04/08/2023 22:40
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I would not automatically be impressed with ANY of these colleges. It all depends on HOW they got in!
and WHAT they are studying
To an extent. Pretty much any field (with possibly some exceptions) can be impressive if that's what they are interested and good in
Pretty much any college is impressive then
You missed the part where I said it all depends on HOW the student got in
This last how comment is just sad. Did someone less deserving also get "your" promotion?
Anonymous
04/08/2023 22:38
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I would not automatically be impressed with ANY of these colleges. It all depends on HOW they got in!
and WHAT they are studying
To an extent. Pretty much any field (with possibly some exceptions) can be impressive if that's what they are interested and good in
Pretty much any college is impressive then
You missed the part where I said it all depends on HOW the student got in
HOW they got in? We need to stop kidding ourselves about junk like this!
Outside of literally a few kids of massive donors, all kids at these colleges have to be impressive in multiple ways (legacy kids, recruited athletes, and all sexes and races included). You'll never truly know the "how." For example, I went to high school with a relative of a pro sports team owner. She was supremely qualified as a student, leader, and major EC award winner but I'm sure many at her top college made assumptions based on who in her family had gone there and their known history of generocity.
Anonymous
04/08/2023 22:38
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I would not automatically be impressed with ANY of these colleges. It all depends on HOW they got in!
and WHAT they are studying
To an extent. Pretty much any field (with possibly some exceptions) can be impressive if that's what they are interested and good in
Pretty much any college is impressive then
You missed the part where I said it all depends on HOW the student got in
What do you mean by HOW?
Anonymous
04/08/2023 22:28
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I would not automatically be impressed with ANY of these colleges. It all depends on HOW they got in!
and WHAT they are studying
To an extent. Pretty much any field (with possibly some exceptions) can be impressive if that's what they are interested and good in
Pretty much any college is impressive then
You missed the part where I said it all depends on HOW the student got in
Anonymous
04/08/2023 20:49
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I would not automatically be impressed with ANY of these colleges. It all depends on HOW they got in!
and WHAT they are studying
To an extent. Pretty much any field (with possibly some exceptions) can be impressive if that's what they are interested and good in
Pretty much any college is impressive then
Anonymous
04/08/2023 19:58
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I would not automatically be impressed with ANY of these colleges. It all depends on HOW they got in!
and WHAT they are studying
To an extent. Pretty much any field (with possibly some exceptions) can be impressive if that's what they are interested and good in
Anonymous
04/08/2023 19:32
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I would not automatically be impressed with ANY of these colleges. It all depends on HOW they got in!
and WHAT they are studying
Anonymous
04/08/2023 19:31
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
It's not so much that a college is impressive but that a student is impressive
Anonymous
04/08/2023 19:27
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
Frankly, I would not automatically be impressed with ANY of these colleges. It all depends on HOW they got in!
Anonymous
04/08/2023 19:09
Subject: “Impressive” Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Very impressed - HYPSM Caltech Wharton
Impressed - Columbia, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Brown, Dartmouth
I would remove "Wharton" from the "Very impressed" category, but otherwise agree.