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Post 04/28/2023 17:38     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps you’re confusing UChicago with Northwestern as UChicago overshadows Northwestern in econ and pretty much everything else


UChicago can be better than NU and I can still reccomend NU over WUSTL and Vandy. Not mutually exclusive.

Plus, every ranking besides USNews ranks NU above UChicago, and I know far more kids who want to go to NU than Uchicago. Where fun goes to die.


Not sure that’s a completely fair assessment. UChicago has a tough core curriculum for sure. It is rigorous and better known than NU. Perhaps those who cannot handle such rigor and want to be in Chicago go to Northwestern


lmao kids who want to have a good time while getting the same job post-grad go to Northwestern over UChicago


As well as kids who want to do music, theater, engineering, etc. go to Northwestern. People who want to live in an area where they can go out after dark (and heck even during the day) and not constantly worry about their safety go to NU.
In reality, each school has a very different feel....people should pick what appeals most to them (if they actually got into both). In my experience, the people applying to UChicago and NU are very different style of students.


If I was comfortable with the Quarter System, I would go with Northwestern. That said, WUSTL is basically in Bethesda, it is a pretty darned safe area of St Louis. Howver, given broader political conditions, I am not sure I would want to attend a school in either Missouri or Tennessee as both are basically MAGA land.


+1

Plus, NU is the best option anyway.


Meh. Overly liberal Chicago is getting worse in terms of safety and other factors, made worse by the current mayor


I'll take Chicago all-day every day over some sheethole red state.


That's you. Enjoy your failed city just like so many other democrat led cities


You mean all of the blue areas that feed the lazy red areas?
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2023 17:26     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

Anonymous wrote:Evanston is not that upscale compared to the rest of the North Shore. Some areas are not very safe at all.


But those "not so safe areas" are not the ones nearby campus. You don't accidentally go wandering thru the not safe areas of Evanston. But yes, Evanston is actually not upscale compared to most of the north shore.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2023 16:49     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps you’re confusing UChicago with Northwestern as UChicago overshadows Northwestern in econ and pretty much everything else


UChicago can be better than NU and I can still reccomend NU over WUSTL and Vandy. Not mutually exclusive.

Plus, every ranking besides USNews ranks NU above UChicago, and I know far more kids who want to go to NU than Uchicago. Where fun goes to die.


Not sure that’s a completely fair assessment. UChicago has a tough core curriculum for sure. It is rigorous and better known than NU. Perhaps those who cannot handle such rigor and want to be in Chicago go to Northwestern


lmao kids who want to have a good time while getting the same job post-grad go to Northwestern over UChicago


As well as kids who want to do music, theater, engineering, etc. go to Northwestern. People who want to live in an area where they can go out after dark (and heck even during the day) and not constantly worry about their safety go to NU.
In reality, each school has a very different feel....people should pick what appeals most to them (if they actually got into both). In my experience, the people applying to UChicago and NU are very different style of students.


If I was comfortable with the Quarter System, I would go with Northwestern. That said, WUSTL is basically in Bethesda, it is a pretty darned safe area of St Louis. Howver, given broader political conditions, I am not sure I would want to attend a school in either Missouri or Tennessee as both are basically MAGA land.


+1

Plus, NU is the best option anyway.


Meh. Overly liberal Chicago is getting worse in terms of safety and other factors, made worse by the current mayor


I'll take Chicago all-day every day over some sheethole red state.


That's you. Enjoy your failed city just like so many other democrat led cities
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2023 16:44     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps you’re confusing UChicago with Northwestern as UChicago overshadows Northwestern in econ and pretty much everything else


UChicago can be better than NU and I can still reccomend NU over WUSTL and Vandy. Not mutually exclusive.

Plus, every ranking besides USNews ranks NU above UChicago, and I know far more kids who want to go to NU than Uchicago. Where fun goes to die.


Not sure that’s a completely fair assessment. UChicago has a tough core curriculum for sure. It is rigorous and better known than NU. Perhaps those who cannot handle such rigor and want to be in Chicago go to Northwestern


lmao kids who want to have a good time while getting the same job post-grad go to Northwestern over UChicago


As well as kids who want to do music, theater, engineering, etc. go to Northwestern. People who want to live in an area where they can go out after dark (and heck even during the day) and not constantly worry about their safety go to NU.
In reality, each school has a very different feel....people should pick what appeals most to them (if they actually got into both). In my experience, the people applying to UChicago and NU are very different style of students.


If I was comfortable with the Quarter System, I would go with Northwestern. That said, WUSTL is basically in Bethesda, it is a pretty darned safe area of St Louis. Howver, given broader political conditions, I am not sure I would want to attend a school in either Missouri or Tennessee as both are basically MAGA land.


+1

Plus, NU is the best option anyway.


Meh. Overly liberal Chicago is getting worse in terms of safety and other factors, made worse by the current mayor


I'll take Chicago all-day every day over some sheethole red state.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2023 16:38     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

Evanston is not that upscale compared to the rest of the North Shore. Some areas are not very safe at all.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2023 14:24     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps you’re confusing UChicago with Northwestern as UChicago overshadows Northwestern in econ and pretty much everything else


UChicago can be better than NU and I can still reccomend NU over WUSTL and Vandy. Not mutually exclusive.

Plus, every ranking besides USNews ranks NU above UChicago, and I know far more kids who want to go to NU than Uchicago. Where fun goes to die.


Not sure that’s a completely fair assessment. UChicago has a tough core curriculum for sure. It is rigorous and better known than NU. Perhaps those who cannot handle such rigor and want to be in Chicago go to Northwestern


lmao kids who want to have a good time while getting the same job post-grad go to Northwestern over UChicago


As well as kids who want to do music, theater, engineering, etc. go to Northwestern. People who want to live in an area where they can go out after dark (and heck even during the day) and not constantly worry about their safety go to NU.
In reality, each school has a very different feel....people should pick what appeals most to them (if they actually got into both). In my experience, the people applying to UChicago and NU are very different style of students.


If I was comfortable with the Quarter System, I would go with Northwestern. That said, WUSTL is basically in Bethesda, it is a pretty darned safe area of St Louis. Howver, given broader political conditions, I am not sure I would want to attend a school in either Missouri or Tennessee as both are basically MAGA land.


+1

Plus, NU is the best option anyway.


Meh. Overly liberal Chicago is getting worse in terms of safety and other factors, made worse by the current mayor


Northwestern University is not in the city of Chicago; it is in Evanston--an upscale suburb of Chicago. No atypical worries regarding safety.


Which, btw, is the same for WUSTL, an upscale suburb of St. Louis
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Post 04/28/2023 14:22     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps you’re confusing UChicago with Northwestern as UChicago overshadows Northwestern in econ and pretty much everything else


UChicago can be better than NU and I can still reccomend NU over WUSTL and Vandy. Not mutually exclusive.

Plus, every ranking besides USNews ranks NU above UChicago, and I know far more kids who want to go to NU than Uchicago. Where fun goes to die.


Not sure that’s a completely fair assessment. UChicago has a tough core curriculum for sure. It is rigorous and better known than NU. Perhaps those who cannot handle such rigor and want to be in Chicago go to Northwestern


lmao kids who want to have a good time while getting the same job post-grad go to Northwestern over UChicago


As well as kids who want to do music, theater, engineering, etc. go to Northwestern. People who want to live in an area where they can go out after dark (and heck even during the day) and not constantly worry about their safety go to NU.
In reality, each school has a very different feel....people should pick what appeals most to them (if they actually got into both). In my experience, the people applying to UChicago and NU are very different style of students.


If I was comfortable with the Quarter System, I would go with Northwestern. That said, WUSTL is basically in Bethesda, it is a pretty darned safe area of St Louis. Howver, given broader political conditions, I am not sure I would want to attend a school in either Missouri or Tennessee as both are basically MAGA land.


+1

Plus, NU is the best option anyway.


Meh. Overly liberal Chicago is getting worse in terms of safety and other factors, made worse by the current mayor


Northwestern University is not in the city of Chicago; it is in Evanston--an upscale suburb of Chicago. No atypical worries regarding safety.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2023 14:21     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

The NU booster(s) seem unwilling to let this post from 4/3 end
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2023 14:19     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps you’re confusing UChicago with Northwestern as UChicago overshadows Northwestern in econ and pretty much everything else


UChicago can be better than NU and I can still reccomend NU over WUSTL and Vandy. Not mutually exclusive.

Plus, every ranking besides USNews ranks NU above UChicago, and I know far more kids who want to go to NU than Uchicago. Where fun goes to die.


Not sure that’s a completely fair assessment. UChicago has a tough core curriculum for sure. It is rigorous and better known than NU. Perhaps those who cannot handle such rigor and want to be in Chicago go to Northwestern


lmao kids who want to have a good time while getting the same job post-grad go to Northwestern over UChicago


As well as kids who want to do music, theater, engineering, etc. go to Northwestern. People who want to live in an area where they can go out after dark (and heck even during the day) and not constantly worry about their safety go to NU.
In reality, each school has a very different feel....people should pick what appeals most to them (if they actually got into both). In my experience, the people applying to UChicago and NU are very different style of students.


If I was comfortable with the Quarter System, I would go with Northwestern. That said, WUSTL is basically in Bethesda, it is a pretty darned safe area of St Louis. Howver, given broader political conditions, I am not sure I would want to attend a school in either Missouri or Tennessee as both are basically MAGA land.


+1

Plus, NU is the best option anyway.


Meh. Overly liberal Chicago is getting worse in terms of safety and other factors, made worse by the current mayor


NU is not IN Chicago. It's a suburb and as safe as any campus can be that is urban/near a large city.

But I concur, NU is statistically the best choice for those majors. The beauty of the campus and the strong academics makes up for the "weather". It's a great place to spend 4 years (or more if inclined to go to grad school there)


You overgeneralize.
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Post 04/28/2023 14:01     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps you’re confusing UChicago with Northwestern as UChicago overshadows Northwestern in econ and pretty much everything else


UChicago can be better than NU and I can still reccomend NU over WUSTL and Vandy. Not mutually exclusive.

Plus, every ranking besides USNews ranks NU above UChicago, and I know far more kids who want to go to NU than Uchicago. Where fun goes to die.


Not sure that’s a completely fair assessment. UChicago has a tough core curriculum for sure. It is rigorous and better known than NU. Perhaps those who cannot handle such rigor and want to be in Chicago go to Northwestern


lmao kids who want to have a good time while getting the same job post-grad go to Northwestern over UChicago


As well as kids who want to do music, theater, engineering, etc. go to Northwestern. People who want to live in an area where they can go out after dark (and heck even during the day) and not constantly worry about their safety go to NU.
In reality, each school has a very different feel....people should pick what appeals most to them (if they actually got into both). In my experience, the people applying to UChicago and NU are very different style of students.


If I was comfortable with the Quarter System, I would go with Northwestern. That said, WUSTL is basically in Bethesda, it is a pretty darned safe area of St Louis. Howver, given broader political conditions, I am not sure I would want to attend a school in either Missouri or Tennessee as both are basically MAGA land.


+1

Plus, NU is the best option anyway.


Meh. Overly liberal Chicago is getting worse in terms of safety and other factors, made worse by the current mayor


NU is not IN Chicago. It's a suburb and as safe as any campus can be that is urban/near a large city.

But I concur, NU is statistically the best choice for those majors. The beauty of the campus and the strong academics makes up for the "weather". It's a great place to spend 4 years (or more if inclined to go to grad school there)
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2023 13:58     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

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Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is clearly the most prestigious. WashU clearly the least.


Depends on who you ask. Each year, universities themselves choose their peer colleges when reporting to the US Dept of Education.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/an-art-and-a-science-colleges-tricky-task-of-selecting-peers

All three colleges being discussed (put down?) here on this thread chose the other two as their peers. Hopefully, this will put an end to this thread which has degenerated over time, but I doubt it.


But Northwestern has an edge in the number of universities that selected it as peers: JHU, UChicago, Cornell, Brown, Rice, Vanderbilt, WUSTL, Notre Dame (8 t20s).

Vanderbilt has: Dartmouth, WUSTL, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Rice (5 t20s)

WUSTL has: Cornell, Vanderbilt, UChicago, Notre Dame, Brown, Northwestern, Rice (7 t20s)

Therefore Northwestern~WUSTL>>>Vanderbilt. End of debate.


In reality, they are all very close. So smart people go with the one that is the "best fit" for their kid and their intended major(s) and areas of interest. Going to any of these schools is an excellent choice---let your kid go to the one that they want to, because that is where they will do the best.

Anonymous
Post 04/28/2023 13:48     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps you’re confusing UChicago with Northwestern as UChicago overshadows Northwestern in econ and pretty much everything else


UChicago can be better than NU and I can still reccomend NU over WUSTL and Vandy. Not mutually exclusive.

Plus, every ranking besides USNews ranks NU above UChicago, and I know far more kids who want to go to NU than Uchicago. Where fun goes to die.


Not sure that’s a completely fair assessment. UChicago has a tough core curriculum for sure. It is rigorous and better known than NU. Perhaps those who cannot handle such rigor and want to be in Chicago go to Northwestern


lmao kids who want to have a good time while getting the same job post-grad go to Northwestern over UChicago


As well as kids who want to do music, theater, engineering, etc. go to Northwestern. People who want to live in an area where they can go out after dark (and heck even during the day) and not constantly worry about their safety go to NU.
In reality, each school has a very different feel....people should pick what appeals most to them (if they actually got into both). In my experience, the people applying to UChicago and NU are very different style of students.


If I was comfortable with the Quarter System, I would go with Northwestern. That said, WUSTL is basically in Bethesda, it is a pretty darned safe area of St Louis. Howver, given broader political conditions, I am not sure I would want to attend a school in either Missouri or Tennessee as both are basically MAGA land.


+1

Plus, NU is the best option anyway.


Meh. Overly liberal Chicago is getting worse in terms of safety and other factors, made worse by the current mayor
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2023 13:15     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

Anonymous wrote:This conversation has gone completely off the rails by the ranking vampires. All three are terrific schools. What a wonderful problem to have. This is 100 percent about fit. Your kid will know where they feel at home after an extended visit. Each school has a distinct vibe. Just be mindful that it is freezing cold for most of the school year at Northwestern. Don't be fooled by April. There's an upside and a downside to being right on Lake Michigan. But there are no bad choices here. Congratulations


Disappointed ?
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2023 12:25     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps you’re confusing UChicago with Northwestern as UChicago overshadows Northwestern in econ and pretty much everything else


UChicago can be better than NU and I can still reccomend NU over WUSTL and Vandy. Not mutually exclusive.

Plus, every ranking besides USNews ranks NU above UChicago, and I know far more kids who want to go to NU than Uchicago. Where fun goes to die.


Not sure that’s a completely fair assessment. UChicago has a tough core curriculum for sure. It is rigorous and better known than NU. Perhaps those who cannot handle such rigor and want to be in Chicago go to Northwestern


lmao kids who want to have a good time while getting the same job post-grad go to Northwestern over UChicago


As well as kids who want to do music, theater, engineering, etc. go to Northwestern. People who want to live in an area where they can go out after dark (and heck even during the day) and not constantly worry about their safety go to NU.
In reality, each school has a very different feel....people should pick what appeals most to them (if they actually got into both). In my experience, the people applying to UChicago and NU are very different style of students.


If I was comfortable with the Quarter System, I would go with Northwestern. That said, WUSTL is basically in Bethesda, it is a pretty darned safe area of St Louis. Howver, given broader political conditions, I am not sure I would want to attend a school in either Missouri or Tennessee as both are basically MAGA land.


+1

Plus, NU is the best option anyway.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2023 12:18     Subject: WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

Curious what the final pick was and what other schools this student had on their list?

My DD is also interested in CS and Econ and has Northwestern on her list to look at in the future. People have suggested Vandy and WUSTL to her , but she isn't as interested in them from a geographic perspective

For what it's worth - nephew went to Vandy and is a recent grad, doing very well