Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 08:42     Subject: Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
Anonymous wrote:Liberty, Oral Roberts, Hillsdale, Patrick Henry, BYU.


Patrick Henry is a newish school but it draws students with top SAT scores. It's a religious school, true, but I wouldn't let that stop me from hiring someone with excellent credentials. Otherwise it's kind of narrow minded to automatically rule them out, no? It used to be acceptable to deny people because of their ethnicity/religion/LGBTQ but as a society we're making strides to be inclusive. If it's not okay to deny someone a job because they're Muslim, it should not be okay to deny someone a job because they're Christian. That's actually a pretty scary attitude.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 08:39     Subject: Re:Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
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Anonymous wrote:There are lots of parents who will only contribute financially toward tuition if their child attends a certain college deemed appropriate.


It’s a shame they are limiting their kids’ futures.


My parents did this and I believe it gave me the best possible life. I will do the same with my kids. I believe it limits them to pretend that whatever they want is a viable option. Living in the real world means understanding where money comes from and why it’s important.


Depends on what you mean. If you mean “I will only pay for a college affiliated with X religion,” expect your kids to cut you off.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 08:38     Subject: Re:Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
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Anonymous wrote:There are lots of parents who will only contribute financially toward tuition if their child attends a certain college deemed appropriate.


It’s a shame they are limiting their kids’ futures.


My parents did this and I believe it gave me the best possible life. I will do the same with my kids. I believe it limits them to pretend that whatever they want is a viable option. Living in the real world means understanding where money comes from and why it’s important.


Although mg parents limited my choice of majors, not school.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 08:37     Subject: Re:Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
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Anonymous wrote:There are lots of parents who will only contribute financially toward tuition if their child attends a certain college deemed appropriate.


It’s a shame they are limiting their kids’ futures.


My parents did this and I believe it gave me the best possible life. I will do the same with my kids. I believe it limits them to pretend that whatever they want is a viable option. Living in the real world means understanding where money comes from and why it’s important.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 08:17     Subject: Re:Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
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Anonymous wrote:There are lots of parents who will only contribute financially toward tuition if their child attends a certain college deemed appropriate.


It’s a shame they are limiting their kids’ futures.


Not necessarily if employers stop being so prejudiced & take into account reasons like that.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 08:15     Subject: Re:Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
Anonymous wrote:There are lots of parents who will only contribute financially toward tuition if their child attends a certain college deemed appropriate.


It’s a shame they are limiting their kids’ futures.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 08:03     Subject: Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
I won't hire Oberlin or NYU. I used to not hire BU either, but then I met some graduates who changed my mind, And I no longer eliminate people for being from BU.

Oberlin students are a huge headache and never worth it, and NYU students are just ... Odd. A bit self absorbed
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 07:57     Subject: Re:Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
There are lots of parents who will only contribute financially toward tuition if their child attends a certain college deemed appropriate.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2023 07:54     Subject: Re:Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
Penn State, the Sanctuary City for Pa*dophiles.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2023 23:41     Subject: Re:Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
This question also applies to job experience. I can say that a combination of Ivy degree and high end firm experience results in lower tier firms not bothering to respond to your resume.
They know you are a flight risk. You know it too.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2023 12:51     Subject: Re:Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
Anonymous wrote:No, not really - I know that their school doesn’t define them. I do take into account major though. But a bigger detraction is that I probably wouldn’t hire someone who put their pronouns on their resume. And I’m not talked about gender neutral pronouns like they/them, I’m also talking about even if a women put she/her/hers or a man put he/him/his. I’m liberal, but I would assume that employee may be potentially difficult. [/quote]

I think you are wrong. First, for younger people this much more normal, certainly not a sign of being difficult. and frankly my old self lkes it too. Maybe if you work in a tiny town where you deal only with Mary Smith and John Brown you dont care, but I communicate in writing (mostly email now) with gazillion of people who have names i have no idead if they are a she or a he, even just to stay in the dual category. multiple times i had to google the person to see if it was a Ms. or Mr. or what. so yes, he/she can be just useful.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2023 08:08     Subject: Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
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Anonymous wrote:Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibits discrimination in hiring based on religion. Just an FYI as many of you gleefully post you discriminate against Christian university grads.


Thankfully, Christians attend a variety of universities. Nice try though. Don’t choose to go to a controversial university.


The bigotry, for example, against Liberty Univ grads is without a question based on their perceived religious beliefs. Nice try!


Lol no. Google their “biology” curriculum. They use workbooks.


The intent has nothing to do with a textbook. It's the religion. This post hoc rationalization would be transparent in litigation.

FCPS has no books according to this thread. Maybe universities shouldn't take them. https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1111832.page


College name is not a protected class. If it is, every Radford or Salisbury student, ever, should sue McKinsey & Company for systemic discrimination.


It's the practice of not hiring based on religion that is prohibited by Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. Getting to that intent is what discovery of things like emails, texts, and depositions is for.


Where are you getting this from? I’ll hire a student of any religion who attended any college BUT Liberty. No discrimination there.


You don’t think you’d have a disparate impact issue?


No I don’t
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2023 07:58     Subject: Re:Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
I’ve often felt that at the Federal Agencies I’ve worked, going from a large state school is a good way to not have these arguments. People from top tier schools (yes, the government hires them and yes they do seek government jobs) are often teased pretty much their whole career for “being too good for us” and those from low ranked schools are sometimes judged negatively for it.

When I say where I went to school no one reacts at all. People from top ranked schools don’t assume I’m unskilled and people from lower ranked schools don’t assume I’ll judge them. It’s actually made my interactions with people easier even though I graduated over 20 years ago and it shouldn’t matter where I got my degree.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2023 07:50     Subject: Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
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Religious scam unis, like Liberty.



Lots of students attend Liberty and other religious schools for cost and convenience. They avoid religious aspects and focus on rest of the education. It would be unfair to discriminate against them. If any, they add some intellectual diversity to these schools and develop good insight about what's going on there. They can become reformers, when given a chance.


Well, their career center needs an upgrade. The resumes I see coming out of places like Liberty might as well be a handwritten scrawl on a napkin. Pure trash. I'm willing to keep an open mind, but again, you need to compete.


Well, if your judgment is based on bad resumes, that’s valid.


I probably do have my biases against these schools, but I've also never seen a great resume from one so it's not exactly discrimination either. They need to do better. They're not sending out their graduates into the world appearing prepared.


We can’t help sometimes the biases we carry, but we can help how we act on them. If they send bad resumes, it doesn’t matter where they went to school.

I worked with 2 people early in my career that went to the University of Central Florida. They were both bigots and both useless at work. One was a female minority and one was a white male. The white male was bigoted against me personally. I was friendly with the Mom of the other and later learned the daughter was pretty racist against her boss….because I went to work for him.

As much as I disliked these people and thought they were both unskilled and nasty, I would not assume all graduates from that school are reflective of their example, particularly so many years later.

Conversely, I’ve had a couple fantastic coworkers who went to Mason. One was clearly not well educated in the subject matter but wow did he make up for it in work ethic and interpersonal skill. I now have a good opinion of people who went to Mason, because I feel the school may not be great but it attracts students interested in getting their work done and starting a career. It’s been my experience. I’m sure some people graduate from there and are terrible to work with, and also don’t have the education. But, my bias is positive. It works in all directions. Each applicant should have a set of qualifications that go into the consideration. It should never be one factor.


Mason is actually a very good school, especially for majors that are integrated with local businesses and agencies, like education for example. Mason is actually my go-to school for hiring. I have never been let down. And before I was doing the hiring, it was the preferred school for my bosses, and that was because the candidates already knew how things are done in our industry in the DMV.


I work with people in technical fields so I’m not super enthused about the technical programs because they don’t quite hit the ground running like someone from UMCP or even UMBC (another school that’s commuter but is excellent for a technical major). That said, they’re smart and ready to work and something about Mason is either attracting that or cultivating it through their curriculum. Far more valuable to me than what is specifically taught in the program. If people are only looking at rankings, they will really miss out on some great people.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2023 07:30     Subject: Are there any colleges or universities that you refuse to hire from?
You guys are so weird. You’re really making hitting decisions about grown adults based on a choice they made as a senior in high school? Get a life.