Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 23:02     Subject: San Franciso reparations

I believe Californians will do the moral and just thing and not run from meeting this challenge, like a bunch of rats fleeing property tax to the villages in Florida or wherever they go.

This is the progressive agenda we deserve.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 22:40     Subject: Re:San Franciso reparations

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Anonymous wrote:$1.2 million is an ok start.


I always assumed that California was one of the few “safe” states for black Americans fleeing the South. Not realizing until recently that it was just as racist. With that being said, anyone who believes reparations will ever be paid is delusional.


Wrong. It’s a very left wing state. This will be paid, as it should be. There may be a handful of moderate Dems in the state assembly who say know, but the margins are huge, in favor of progressives.


How, exactly?
After 2 years of massive surplus, California is facing a $24B budget deficit.
Who will magically pay for this?


The billionaires who live there.


LOL. You think they are going to stick around to be milked by this ruse? Think again.


Sure, why not? They stick around now, even though it would be in their financial interest to relocate. And most are extremely liberal—thus, this is consistent with their values.


DP.

You’re just flat out wrong.

Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 21:55     Subject: Re:San Franciso reparations

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:$1.2 million is an ok start.


I always assumed that California was one of the few “safe” states for black Americans fleeing the South. Not realizing until recently that it was just as racist. With that being said, anyone who believes reparations will ever be paid is delusional.


Wrong. It’s a very left wing state. This will be paid, as it should be. There may be a handful of moderate Dems in the state assembly who say know, but the margins are huge, in favor of progressives.


How, exactly?
After 2 years of massive surplus, California is facing a $24B budget deficit.
Who will magically pay for this?


The billionaires who live there.


LOL. You think they are going to stick around to be milked by this ruse? Think again.


Sure, why not? They stick around now, even though it would be in their financial interest to relocate. And most are extremely liberal—thus, this is consistent with their values.


The billionaires are a lot less liberal than they appear. They are already moving operations out of CA.

So, I think it is 100% nuts that California, which was never a slave state, is going to force its non-black residents (who were not slave owners) to fork over billions of dollars to black residents (who were not slaves). Nevertheless, part of me is giddy about the prospect of this because it's basically a giant gift to the right. But then the other part of me thinks that is gross and sick to wish this kind of economic and social destruction on California. Even if it is self inflicted.


I'm happy CA is going down this path; their voters are basically getting what they voted for - good for them. They can hand over all their money to the govt and let them redistribute as they see fit. For the minority voters in CA who don't agree, you can either suck it up, or move.


I assume that the voters thought that they were voting for things like maternity leave and health care. So I don't really blame them. It's not like these politicians ran on "we are gonna take your money and burn this bish to the ground!!!"

That said, I blame anyone who sees this and continues to vote for it.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 21:51     Subject: Re:San Franciso reparations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:$1.2 million is an ok start.


I always assumed that California was one of the few “safe” states for black Americans fleeing the South. Not realizing until recently that it was just as racist. With that being said, anyone who believes reparations will ever be paid is delusional.


Wrong. It’s a very left wing state. This will be paid, as it should be. There may be a handful of moderate Dems in the state assembly who say know, but the margins are huge, in favor of progressives.


How, exactly?
After 2 years of massive surplus, California is facing a $24B budget deficit.
Who will magically pay for this?


The billionaires who live there.


LOL. You think they are going to stick around to be milked by this ruse? Think again.


Sure, why not? They stick around now, even though it would be in their financial interest to relocate. And most are extremely liberal—thus, this is consistent with their values.


The billionaires are a lot less liberal than they appear. They are already moving operations out of CA.

So, I think it is 100% nuts that California, which was never a slave state, is going to force its non-black residents (who were not slave owners) to fork over billions of dollars to black residents (who were not slaves). Nevertheless, part of me is giddy about the prospect of this because it's basically a giant gift to the right. But then the other part of me thinks that is gross and sick to wish this kind of economic and social destruction on California. Even if it is self inflicted.


I'm happy CA is going down this path; their voters are basically getting what they voted for - good for them. They can hand over all their money to the govt and let them redistribute as they see fit. For the minority voters in CA who don't agree, you can either suck it up, or move.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 21:07     Subject: Re:San Franciso reparations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:$1.2 million is an ok start.


I always assumed that California was one of the few “safe” states for black Americans fleeing the South. Not realizing until recently that it was just as racist. With that being said, anyone who believes reparations will ever be paid is delusional.


Wrong. It’s a very left wing state. This will be paid, as it should be. There may be a handful of moderate Dems in the state assembly who say know, but the margins are huge, in favor of progressives.


How, exactly?
After 2 years of massive surplus, California is facing a $24B budget deficit.
Who will magically pay for this?


The billionaires who live there.


LOL. You think they are going to stick around to be milked by this ruse? Think again.


Sure, why not? They stick around now, even though it would be in their financial interest to relocate. And most are extremely liberal—thus, this is consistent with their values.


The billionaires are a lot less liberal than they appear. They are already moving operations out of CA.

So, I think it is 100% nuts that California, which was never a slave state, is going to force its non-black residents (who were not slave owners) to fork over billions of dollars to black residents (who were not slaves). Nevertheless, part of me is giddy about the prospect of this because it's basically a giant gift to the right. But then the other part of me thinks that is gross and sick to wish this kind of economic and social destruction on California. Even if it is self inflicted.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 20:59     Subject: San Franciso reparations

Anonymous wrote:If nothing else, this is really softening the ground for similar movements in other states and, ultimately, at the federal level. No one really has a philosophical argument against it (or is willing to state such an argument in public), so the arguments are really fall back ones like, yeah, uhhhhh, that sounds good, but the logistics, the money. The money is there, and this country can surely reasonably identify those who are entitled to payments.


Most people have a philosophical argument against it.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 19:45     Subject: San Franciso reparations

Anonymous wrote:I think this is the future for America.

California leads, and only reparations can heal the legacy of slavery.

Bravo California.


Surely you jest.
The left loves the legacy of slavery. They use it to tell black folks how they are victims even 150 years later.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 19:34     Subject: San Franciso reparations

I think this is the future for America.

California leads, and only reparations can heal the legacy of slavery.

Bravo California.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 16:42     Subject: San Franciso reparations

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If nothing else, this is really softening the ground for similar movements in other states and, ultimately, at the federal level. No one really has a philosophical argument against it (or is willing to state such an argument in public), so the arguments are really fall back ones like, yeah, uhhhhh, that sounds good, but the logistics, the money. The money is there, and this country can surely reasonably identify those who are entitled to payments.


Im willing to state the "philosophical" argument against this. It is wrong to take property and cash from one group of people and give it to another group of people because of what their ancestors may or may not have done.


I am with you there.
I will also say that any black person who has been a slave should get in line for reparations. I don't think that line will be very long.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 14:04     Subject: San Franciso reparations

Anonymous wrote:If nothing else, this is really softening the ground for similar movements in other states and, ultimately, at the federal level. No one really has a philosophical argument against it (or is willing to state such an argument in public), so the arguments are really fall back ones like, yeah, uhhhhh, that sounds good, but the logistics, the money. The money is there, and this country can surely reasonably identify those who are entitled to payments.


Im willing to state the "philosophical" argument against this. It is wrong to take property and cash from one group of people and give it to another group of people because of what their ancestors may or may not have done.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 13:46     Subject: San Franciso reparations

California is only 35% white. 16% are Asian, 40% Latinos, 6.5% Black, 1.7% Native American, and 4% multiracial. Why should 65% of Californians who aren’t white have to pay for reparations for Black Californians when there has been plenty of discrimination against us too.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 13:42     Subject: Re:San Franciso reparations

Anonymous wrote:Essentially saying..... "My vote is for sale."



Unlike conservatives who do not believe in voting.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 13:34     Subject: San Franciso reparations

The DNC has sabotaged itself. Luscious
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 12:25     Subject: Re:San Franciso reparations

Essentially saying..... "My vote is for sale."

Anonymous
Post 05/07/2023 10:55     Subject: San Franciso reparations

Gee whiz, I can only imagine how the up-by-yer-bootstraps Republicans—and their centrist Democratic neighbors—who melted down over 10k loan forgiveness—will react to this.