Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 19:19     Subject: Re:Dating a conservative

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty conservative and I've found Muslim Indian, Pakistani, and Bangladeshi women to be good matches for me. I'm more progressive than the men from their cultures, and they are more traditional, feminine, hard-working and sensible than white, east coast liberal women.


You sound fun.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 19:09     Subject: Re:Dating a conservative

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on how much conservative (more center or middle would be ideal. )- and find out his views on children, abortion. Been married to a conservative last 16 years and have to say they make great husbands and fathers long term.

please. Conservative men don't believe in equal housework and childcare.

I grew up in a conservative household.

Liberal men are much more aware of women's rights than conservative men, who really don't care much about women's rights.

Also, the highly educated tend to be liberal.


I disagree, I’m very liberal.

Conservative men fix things, take care of the lawn/yard, paint rooms, fix light fixtures, do the taxes, grill, take orders when there is a party, plan tail gates, do the dishes, take their plates to the sink, set up tvs, move furniture, coach kids sports teams, help with nighttime routine (anything family), etc.

Things are equal but fall on gender norm lines.

haha .. my liberal DH does all of it, and cooks, not just grill, bakes, fixes all kinds of things (neighbors all come to him for help fixing stuff), and he's an engineer. But, I do the taxes.

Conservative men aren't doing much childcare or cooking and baking. Please.

Tail gate? LOL That's super important housework. LOL


You missed the point!

Yes conservative men to care for children but just not in the way you agree.

And southerners tailgate Friday night/Saturday and Sunday.

Grilling is cooking

You aren’t talking about conservatives you are talking about jerks. There are plenty of liberal men who can’t cut a lawn or install a light fixture.

I didn't miss the point. Conservative men mostly have traditional gender roles, and doing housechorse and childcare is a traditionally female's role. If you mean they care for their children by working, guess what.. most women work and do housechores/childcare, too.

I didn't realize Conservative only meant "southerners". LOL. I think you mean "traditional southern" people, not "conservatives". But, I'm sure you know that there are conservatives in other parts of the country,right? LOL


No taking care of children is not "traditional female roles" after men get home from work. Actually it's the opposite. Conservative men are actually very involved in care of children after they get home from work, but yes, they work so they are not involved from 9-5 but neither are working women.

Conservative is not a Monolith nor is Liberal, you are joking if you think all liberal men are doing bedtime routine 50/50. I was giving and example.

Conservative men are coaching teams, boy scouts, church groups, football games, baseball games, etc.

51% of conservatives support LGBT rights/marriage.
40% support immigration support
50% support gun control

You really have been snowed by the Trump GOP and have forgotten there is a whole group of conservative that are not them.

lol. I need a source for your %s.

The front runner for 2024 for the GOP is Trump. He has a much bigger lead than the next R. So yes, Trump GOP = GOP.

I seriously doubt that most conservative men are doing childcare duty, cooking, cleaning after work. I'm sure there are a few, but I doubt the vast majority of conservative men are what you are describing. Conservative men aren't supportive of women's rights. That's laughable. If your kid came out as gay, your conservative DH more than likely wouldn't support gay marriage. If your DD was raped, your conservative DH supports a party that wants to force your DD to have her rapist's baby.

If your DH doesn't believe in the above, then your DH should really leave the R party because the GOP has left your DH.

I'm actually a former R, and left a long time ago.


Or you don’t cut and run … you have the courage to try to make a difference.

He is hoping his vote will get rid of both Trump and DeSantis.

Who’s gonna get some normal republicans back into office, not you.

Google… pew research is your friend if you don’t know what conservative stand for. If you don’t know alt -right vs conservative your as bad as people who call liberals socialists.

The GOP is a lost cause. Conservatives support politicians who want to force your DD to have her rapist's babies. Even if your DH personally doesn't support that, he clearly doesn't think it's enough of an issue to leave the party. And if god forbid, should your DD ever get pregnant by a rapist, I bet you and your DH will be glad for Dems and the blue states that allow for abortion. He certainly won't be turning to his conservative party for help.

Also, your DH organizes tailgate parties, but does he organize PTA staff appreciation, birthday parties? I bet not because it doesn't involve alcohol.

The tailgate organizing is one of the most bizarre items of "my DH does house chores" examples I have ever seen. LOL. You have a low bar, and that's probably how your conservative DH likes it.


So you’re runner instead of a fighter. There’s a lot of shame in that.

Actually my kids school only has men run the PTA, it’s all boys.., mommies not needed, school parties, etc. yes school parties involve alcohol you should try it you seem like you need it.

It bizarre you think teacher gifts and birthday parties make you a good parent, you really need a higher bar for yourself.

We don’t believe in “birthday parties” invite 5 friends over, pizza and cake, no goodie bags. Neither of us believe in huge consumerism like birthdays, valentines, etc.



Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 18:52     Subject: Dating a conservative

Anonymous wrote:Mary Matalin and James Carville seem to be very happily married.


Tell me you didn't even bother to google before reaching for a 25 year old example.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 18:49     Subject: Re:Dating a conservative

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on how much conservative (more center or middle would be ideal. )- and find out his views on children, abortion. Been married to a conservative last 16 years and have to say they make great husbands and fathers long term.

please. Conservative men don't believe in equal housework and childcare.

I grew up in a conservative household.

Liberal men are much more aware of women's rights than conservative men, who really don't care much about women's rights.

Also, the highly educated tend to be liberal.


I disagree, I’m very liberal.

Conservative men fix things, take care of the lawn/yard, paint rooms, fix light fixtures, do the taxes, grill, take orders when there is a party, plan tail gates, do the dishes, take their plates to the sink, set up tvs, move furniture, coach kids sports teams, help with nighttime routine (anything family), etc.

Things are equal but fall on gender norm lines.

haha .. my liberal DH does all of it, and cooks, not just grill, bakes, fixes all kinds of things (neighbors all come to him for help fixing stuff), and he's an engineer. But, I do the taxes.

Conservative men aren't doing much childcare or cooking and baking. Please.

Tail gate? LOL That's super important housework. LOL


You missed the point!

Yes conservative men to care for children but just not in the way you agree.

And southerners tailgate Friday night/Saturday and Sunday.

Grilling is cooking

You aren’t talking about conservatives you are talking about jerks. There are plenty of liberal men who can’t cut a lawn or install a light fixture.

I didn't miss the point. Conservative men mostly have traditional gender roles, and doing housechorse and childcare is a traditionally female's role. If you mean they care for their children by working, guess what.. most women work and do housechores/childcare, too.

I didn't realize Conservative only meant "southerners". LOL. I think you mean "traditional southern" people, not "conservatives". But, I'm sure you know that there are conservatives in other parts of the country,right? LOL


No taking care of children is not "traditional female roles" after men get home from work. Actually it's the opposite. Conservative men are actually very involved in care of children after they get home from work, but yes, they work so they are not involved from 9-5 but neither are working women.

Conservative is not a Monolith nor is Liberal, you are joking if you think all liberal men are doing bedtime routine 50/50. I was giving and example.

Conservative men are coaching teams, boy scouts, church groups, football games, baseball games, etc.

51% of conservatives support LGBT rights/marriage.
40% support immigration support
50% support gun control


You really have been snowed by the Trump GOP and have forgotten there is a whole group of conservative that are not them.


These figures don't support what you seem to be trying to say.


Yes they do. You can’t just ignore 40+ % of people because of the other 60-% of the people.

His old are you people do you not know what conservative vs alt -right is?
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 18:48     Subject: Dating a conservative

Anonymous wrote:Mary Matalin and James Carville seem to be very happily married.


Politics are very different now. Mary Matalin is a libertarian now.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 18:12     Subject: Re:Dating a conservative

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on how much conservative (more center or middle would be ideal. )- and find out his views on children, abortion. Been married to a conservative last 16 years and have to say they make great husbands and fathers long term.

please. Conservative men don't believe in equal housework and childcare.

I grew up in a conservative household.

Liberal men are much more aware of women's rights than conservative men, who really don't care much about women's rights.

Also, the highly educated tend to be liberal.


I disagree, I’m very liberal.

Conservative men fix things, take care of the lawn/yard, paint rooms, fix light fixtures, do the taxes, grill, take orders when there is a party, plan tail gates, do the dishes, take their plates to the sink, set up tvs, move furniture, coach kids sports teams, help with nighttime routine (anything family), etc.

Things are equal but fall on gender norm lines.

haha .. my liberal DH does all of it, and cooks, not just grill, bakes, fixes all kinds of things (neighbors all come to him for help fixing stuff), and he's an engineer. But, I do the taxes.

Conservative men aren't doing much childcare or cooking and baking. Please.

Tail gate? LOL That's super important housework. LOL


You missed the point!

Yes conservative men to care for children but just not in the way you agree.

And southerners tailgate Friday night/Saturday and Sunday.

Grilling is cooking

You aren’t talking about conservatives you are talking about jerks. There are plenty of liberal men who can’t cut a lawn or install a light fixture.

I didn't miss the point. Conservative men mostly have traditional gender roles, and doing housechorse and childcare is a traditionally female's role. If you mean they care for their children by working, guess what.. most women work and do housechores/childcare, too.

I didn't realize Conservative only meant "southerners". LOL. I think you mean "traditional southern" people, not "conservatives". But, I'm sure you know that there are conservatives in other parts of the country,right? LOL


No taking care of children is not "traditional female roles" after men get home from work. Actually it's the opposite. Conservative men are actually very involved in care of children after they get home from work, but yes, they work so they are not involved from 9-5 but neither are working women.

Conservative is not a Monolith nor is Liberal, you are joking if you think all liberal men are doing bedtime routine 50/50. I was giving and example.

Conservative men are coaching teams, boy scouts, church groups, football games, baseball games, etc.

51% of conservatives support LGBT rights/marriage.
40% support immigration support
50% support gun control


You really have been snowed by the Trump GOP and have forgotten there is a whole group of conservative that are not them.


These figures don't support what you seem to be trying to say.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 18:08     Subject: Dating a conservative

He's super respectful now to put on a good front. Long term, I think he would start rolling his eyes at your gender equity and other progressive ideals. I can't see LT how this will end well.

Would you be able to be supportive if he had hardcore right wing ideals?
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 18:06     Subject: Re:Dating a conservative

I'm pretty conservative and I've found Muslim Indian, Pakistani, and Bangladeshi women to be good matches for me. I'm more progressive than the men from their cultures, and they are more traditional, feminine, hard-working and sensible than white, east coast liberal women.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 18:04     Subject: Dating a conservative

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a woman that is pretty progressive and liberal and works in gender equity. I've been on a few dates with a conservative/republican. He's super respectful, but do any of you see any long term issues or have any experience? We are both agnostic.


Conservative here: sadly I think the world has become too polarized. Men, in general, tend to be live-and-let-live on political issues in their relationships, but IME women often tend to see political disagreements through the lens of “our values are not aligned” and all of your progressive female friends are going to react the way a lot of the people in this thread have, which is going to cause problems.


Oh, absolutely. When I look at conservative male politicians and all the laws they’re enacting right now, all I can think of is “wow, they really are a live-and-let-live bunch! Boy are they ever reducing the role of government in my personal life!”



And of course conservative men are live-and-let-live on political issues in their relationships - the politics have no impact on them and their lives. The world is set up for them to be fine. Why not just live-and-let-live?
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 18:03     Subject: Dating a conservative

Anonymous wrote:Mary Matalin and James Carville seem to be very happily married.

neither are progressives, though. OP seems like she would be pretty progressive.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 18:02     Subject: Dating a conservative

Mary Matalin and James Carville seem to be very happily married.
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Post 03/15/2023 17:58     Subject: Re:Dating a conservative

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on how much conservative (more center or middle would be ideal. )- and find out his views on children, abortion. Been married to a conservative last 16 years and have to say they make great husbands and fathers long term.

please. Conservative men don't believe in equal housework and childcare.

I grew up in a conservative household.

Liberal men are much more aware of women's rights than conservative men, who really don't care much about women's rights.

Also, the highly educated tend to be liberal.


I disagree, I’m very liberal.

Conservative men fix things, take care of the lawn/yard, paint rooms, fix light fixtures, do the taxes, grill, take orders when there is a party, plan tail gates, do the dishes, take their plates to the sink, set up tvs, move furniture, coach kids sports teams, help with nighttime routine (anything family), etc.

Things are equal but fall on gender norm lines.

haha .. my liberal DH does all of it, and cooks, not just grill, bakes, fixes all kinds of things (neighbors all come to him for help fixing stuff), and he's an engineer. But, I do the taxes.

Conservative men aren't doing much childcare or cooking and baking. Please.

Tail gate? LOL That's super important housework. LOL


You missed the point!

Yes conservative men to care for children but just not in the way you agree.

And southerners tailgate Friday night/Saturday and Sunday.

Grilling is cooking

You aren’t talking about conservatives you are talking about jerks. There are plenty of liberal men who can’t cut a lawn or install a light fixture.

I didn't miss the point. Conservative men mostly have traditional gender roles, and doing housechorse and childcare is a traditionally female's role. If you mean they care for their children by working, guess what.. most women work and do housechores/childcare, too.

I didn't realize Conservative only meant "southerners". LOL. I think you mean "traditional southern" people, not "conservatives". But, I'm sure you know that there are conservatives in other parts of the country,right? LOL


No taking care of children is not "traditional female roles" after men get home from work. Actually it's the opposite. Conservative men are actually very involved in care of children after they get home from work, but yes, they work so they are not involved from 9-5 but neither are working women.

Conservative is not a Monolith nor is Liberal, you are joking if you think all liberal men are doing bedtime routine 50/50. I was giving and example.

Conservative men are coaching teams, boy scouts, church groups, football games, baseball games, etc.

51% of conservatives support LGBT rights/marriage.
40% support immigration support
50% support gun control

You really have been snowed by the Trump GOP and have forgotten there is a whole group of conservative that are not them.

lol. I need a source for your %s.

The front runner for 2024 for the GOP is Trump. He has a much bigger lead than the next R. So yes, Trump GOP = GOP.

I seriously doubt that most conservative men are doing childcare duty, cooking, cleaning after work. I'm sure there are a few, but I doubt the vast majority of conservative men are what you are describing. Conservative men aren't supportive of women's rights. That's laughable. If your kid came out as gay, your conservative DH more than likely wouldn't support gay marriage. If your DD was raped, your conservative DH supports a party that wants to force your DD to have her rapist's baby.

If your DH doesn't believe in the above, then your DH should really leave the R party because the GOP has left your DH.

I'm actually a former R, and left a long time ago.


Or you don’t cut and run … you have the courage to try to make a difference.

He is hoping his vote will get rid of both Trump and DeSantis.

Who’s gonna get some normal republicans back into office, not you.

Google… pew research is your friend if you don’t know what conservative stand for. If you don’t know alt -right vs conservative your as bad as people who call liberals socialists.

The GOP is a lost cause. Conservatives support politicians who want to force your DD to have her rapist's babies. Even if your DH personally doesn't support that, he clearly doesn't think it's enough of an issue to leave the party. And if god forbid, should your DD ever get pregnant by a rapist, I bet you and your DH will be glad for Dems and the blue states that allow for abortion. He certainly won't be turning to his conservative party for help.

Also, your DH organizes tailgate parties, but does he organize PTA staff appreciation, birthday parties? I bet not because it doesn't involve alcohol.

The tailgate organizing is one of the most bizarre items of "my DH does house chores" examples I have ever seen. LOL. You have a low bar, and that's probably how your conservative DH likes it.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 17:57     Subject: Re:Dating a conservative

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Anonymous wrote:If you're fine and dandy with him thinking he has control over your uterus by virtue of Sky Daddy, then go for it.

Personally, I'd hate f--k him and then run far away.


What is sky daddy?


It jive for God
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 17:52     Subject: Re:Dating a conservative

Anonymous wrote:If you're fine and dandy with him thinking he has control over your uterus by virtue of Sky Daddy, then go for it.

Personally, I'd hate f--k him and then run far away.


What is sky daddy?
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2023 17:48     Subject: Re:Dating a conservative

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on how much conservative (more center or middle would be ideal. )- and find out his views on children, abortion. Been married to a conservative last 16 years and have to say they make great husbands and fathers long term.

please. Conservative men don't believe in equal housework and childcare.

I grew up in a conservative household.

Liberal men are much more aware of women's rights than conservative men, who really don't care much about women's rights.

Also, the highly educated tend to be liberal.


I disagree, I’m very liberal.

Conservative men fix things, take care of the lawn/yard, paint rooms, fix light fixtures, do the taxes, grill, take orders when there is a party, plan tail gates, do the dishes, take their plates to the sink, set up tvs, move furniture, coach kids sports teams, help with nighttime routine (anything family), etc.

Things are equal but fall on gender norm lines.

haha .. my liberal DH does all of it, and cooks, not just grill, bakes, fixes all kinds of things (neighbors all come to him for help fixing stuff), and he's an engineer. But, I do the taxes.

Conservative men aren't doing much childcare or cooking and baking. Please.

Tail gate? LOL That's super important housework. LOL


You missed the point!

Yes conservative men to care for children but just not in the way you agree.

And southerners tailgate Friday night/Saturday and Sunday.

Grilling is cooking

You aren’t talking about conservatives you are talking about jerks. There are plenty of liberal men who can’t cut a lawn or install a light fixture.

I didn't miss the point. Conservative men mostly have traditional gender roles, and doing housechorse and childcare is a traditionally female's role. If you mean they care for their children by working, guess what.. most women work and do housechores/childcare, too.

I didn't realize Conservative only meant "southerners". LOL. I think you mean "traditional southern" people, not "conservatives". But, I'm sure you know that there are conservatives in other parts of the country,right? LOL


No taking care of children is not "traditional female roles" after men get home from work. Actually it's the opposite. Conservative men are actually very involved in care of children after they get home from work, but yes, they work so they are not involved from 9-5 but neither are working women.

Conservative is not a Monolith nor is Liberal, you are joking if you think all liberal men are doing bedtime routine 50/50. I was giving and example.

Conservative men are coaching teams, boy scouts, church groups, football games, baseball games, etc.

51% of conservatives support LGBT rights/marriage.
40% support immigration support
50% support gun control

You really have been snowed by the Trump GOP and have forgotten there is a whole group of conservative that are not them.

lol. I need a source for your %s.

The front runner for 2024 for the GOP is Trump. He has a much bigger lead than the next R. So yes, Trump GOP = GOP.

I seriously doubt that most conservative men are doing childcare duty, cooking, cleaning after work. I'm sure there are a few, but I doubt the vast majority of conservative men are what you are describing. Conservative men aren't supportive of women's rights. That's laughable. If your kid came out as gay, your conservative DH more than likely wouldn't support gay marriage. If your DD was raped, your conservative DH supports a party that wants to force your DD to have her rapist's baby.

If your DH doesn't believe in the above, then your DH should really leave the R party because the GOP has left your DH.

I'm actually a former R, and left a long time ago.


Or you don’t cut and run … you have the courage to try to make a difference.

He is hoping his vote will get rid of both Trump and DeSantis.

Who’s gonna get some normal republicans back into office, not you.

Google… pew research is your friend if you don’t know what conservative stand for. If you don’t know alt -right vs conservative your as bad as people who call liberals socialists.