OP- are there particular academic areas where Pomona especially excels? For example it seems CMC is all about politics and economics (and I guess yayo). What is Pomona’s strength (and preferred narcotic)?

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

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you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

I mean, is that somehow different from most other LACs in Pomona's league? I grew up in Pasadena and trust me, I'm no fan of the Inland Empire (although most people really don't consider Claremont part of that) but I'd say Claremont and its surrounding areas have more going on than Williamstown or Amherst, MA or Middlebury or whatever LAC you deem "acceptable."

*boring suburbia

Here’s an article about road closures due to avalanches two weeks ago in the “rolling hills/boring” that’s just under 10 miles from Claremont.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/avalanches-reported-on-mount-baldy-after-cold-storm-drops-several-feet-of-snow/3105443/

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Anonymous wrote:Who says it is “so special”?

US News?

OP: it’s extremely hard to get in and very highly ranked, so the question was, what is all the hullabaloo about?

Are you pretending to be dumb? Look at what components go into rankings, and you'll see what makes Pomona at or near the top of all the LAC rankings.

If I have to spell it out: Pomona is doing well because relative to other peer LACs, it excels in these factors and many more:
- Graduation and retention rates
- Selectivity and caliber of the entering students
- Post grad outcomes and earning potential
- Students receiving competitive fellowships and/or getting into top med/law/business schools
- Financial aid generosity
- Diversity
- Financial resources/endowment
- Faculty resources/salaries
- Student satisfaction surveys

Goodness. This thread is embarrassing. All these roundabout conversations that really have nothing to do with anything of consequence.

PP, are you pretending to be that dumb? The 5Cs have been caught no less than 2 times fudging their numbers. So, there.

Hi Pomona troll. Nice to see you back on another thread. As we discussed last time, the 5Cs are completely separate entities that share location and resources, so saying “the 5Cs” did anything is meaningless. But of course you remember that from last time you got smacked down by everyone for making these meaningless claims.

Nice deflection!

Bless your heart. Keep trying! Tell us more about the evil things this imaginary entity “the 5Cs” did? Or was it the Illuminati?

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

Clearly,
you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

Just stop. The mountains of Angeles Forest are not blocked by smog from Claremont. It's literally a couple of miles from the BASE of those mountains.

Sometimes they are obscured from the coast (or from UCLA - closer to your beaches), but not even "all the time".

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Anonymous wrote:Who says it is “so special”?

US News?

OP: it’s extremely hard to get in and very highly ranked, so the question was, what is all the hullabaloo about?

Are you pretending to be dumb? Look at what components go into rankings, and you'll see what makes Pomona at or near the top of all the LAC rankings.

If I have to spell it out: Pomona is doing well because relative to other peer LACs, it excels in these factors and many more:
- Graduation and retention rates
- Selectivity and caliber of the entering students
- Post grad outcomes and earning potential
- Students receiving competitive fellowships and/or getting into top med/law/business schools
- Financial aid generosity
- Diversity
- Financial resources/endowment
- Faculty resources/salaries
- Student satisfaction surveys

Goodness. This thread is embarrassing. All these roundabout conversations that really have nothing to do with anything of consequence.

PP, are you pretending to be that dumb? The 5Cs have been caught no less than 2 times fudging their numbers. So, there.

Hi Pomona troll. Nice to see you back on another thread. As we discussed last time, the 5Cs are completely separate entities that share location and resources, so saying “the 5Cs” did anything is meaningless. But of course you remember that from last time you got smacked down by everyone for making these meaningless claims.

Are they completely separate, in the way that Haverford, Bryn Mawr and Swarthmore are?

I don’t know much about Haverford, Bryn Mawr and Swarthmore, but the 5Cs are totally separate in terms of admissions, policies, graduation requirements, and stuff like that. They are physically right next to each other. Students can take up to like 50% of their classes at other colleges, and the class registration process is somewhat shared, although some schools seem more open to allowing students from the other schools into popular classes. When my searches for a class though, they see the equivalent class at all the schools, of, e.g. for music, at the 2 schools that offer it. Students can also eat in dining facilities for any school. In terms of graduation, aid, and admissions, they have different priorities and different policies.

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Anonymous wrote:Who says it is “so special”?

US News?

OP: it’s extremely hard to get in and very highly ranked, so the question was, what is all the hullabaloo about?

Are you pretending to be dumb? Look at what components go into rankings, and you'll see what makes Pomona at or near the top of all the LAC rankings.

If I have to spell it out: Pomona is doing well because relative to other peer LACs, it excels in these factors and many more:
- Graduation and retention rates
- Selectivity and caliber of the entering students
- Post grad outcomes and earning potential
- Students receiving competitive fellowships and/or getting into top med/law/business schools
- Financial aid generosity
- Diversity
- Financial resources/endowment
- Faculty resources/salaries
- Student satisfaction surveys

Goodness. This thread is embarrassing. All these roundabout conversations that really have nothing to do with anything of consequence.

So the answer to the question is... US News ranks it highly because of the factors US News takes into account.

I was looking for answers that tended to point more towards the "special sauce" that made kids really want to go there. The fact that it is on the west coast/good weather seems to be the main answer.

But also the academic programs, graduation outcomes, culture of students, the closeness of faculty and students, the great housing options...and on campus for 4 years!, the access to other 5 C's for courses, friends, clubs, sports, shared resources (dining halls, athletic options, library), proximity to mountains, many airport options for flying (LAX still best if want direct flights).

Does this help?

I guess it's an all around great school in an attractive (to many) location, without a lot of direct competitors, unlike the New England schools. Warm weather Amherst, basically.

Yes, but also if the other schools in the Pioneer Valley were all located side by side instead of a bus ride away.

Exactly, the 5Cs are all right next to each other (like - cross a tiny neighborhood street from Pomona and you are at CMC) - I can't imagine it takes more than 20 minutes to walk between the two furthest buildings within the 5 schools and you would always be on one of the 5 campuses while you walk

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

Clearly,
you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

I can’t imagine you went to one of the 5Cs without hearing about anyone going to Mount Baldy. My kid goes up that way all the time. I mean, why wouldn’t you? Among other things, there’s apparently a brew pub up that way that they enjoy.

And as for “many miles around” being boring suburbia — why the weird gas lighting? My kid’s apartment sits 1.25 miles from the border of the Angles National Forest and 13 miles as the crow flies from the summit of Mt San Antonio (aka Mt Baldy) at 10,064 feet. Who are you trying to kid? You’re as silly as the “THeY’RE rOLlINg HiLls” poster.

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

Clearly,
you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

Anonymous wrote:Again Pomona is the only warm weather elite lac on the west coast. Whether or not it’s actual location is desirable to the posters of dcum, that is enough to drive up a lot of interest, which combined with a class size of 1500 or so, leads to a very low acceptance rate.

This is the main factor that makes Pomona special, says this Pomona College alum, but not the only one. As someone else said, there are no strong competitors to Pomona (a twin of Amherst and Williams in many respects) in the west except for perhaps CMC. We went everywhere--to LA, San Diego, hiking at Mt. Baldy, the Angeles National Forest, Vegas, Joshua Tree, Catalina, all of the beaches, skiing at Mammoth Lakes, the Getty Center, Huntington Library, Rodeo Drive, Beverly Center, Angels baseball games, Disneyland, USC games, cultural events in LA, you name it. Students on exchange from Swarthmore and Colby would comment on how the culture at Pomona was academically rigorous just like at their colleges but still had a more laid back feel because of the location and weather.

As a former first gen, low income student (before that was even a thing with a label), I can also attest to the fact that Pomona stands out because it provides generous merit and financial aid--extremely generous financial aid. Its endowment is very large for a SLAC. I would not have been able to afford my local flagship university, but with very modest student loans, large grants, and work-study for all four years (during which I worked with Pop--Gregg Popovich), I could afford Pomona. Go figure.

The third ingredient in Pomona's secret sauce is the five-college consortium. I took classes at all five schools, and used all of their dining halls and libraries as well. (Loved Denison Library at Scripps, and dinner at CMC.) Five-college parties were also a blast back in the 1980s (Harvey Mudd knew how to throw parties); I can't speak to what they are like now.

Another key factor is (or was) the professors. They are incredible as a rule. I experienced one or two exceptions, but the vast majority were outstanding educators who truly enjoyed working with students. That stands in contrast to my kid's experience at a top 4 public university (on the smaller side). Radically different experiences with so much less regular professor contact in the university environment, though both SLACs and universities have their strengths and weaknesses. Some students don't want close contact with their professors.

Applicants needs to understand that a liberal arts undergrad degree often requires additional advanced education. At the time I was at Pomona, about 97% of students went on for higher degrees. Many of the majors make it difficult to secure a high-paying job out of the gate, which many college grads are seeking these days. Those who had the easiest time were the math, econ, and comp sci majors. Without pre-professional majors, Pomona doesn't have the name recognition to carry it. For example, there has been an ongoing debate over whether to teach data science courses at Pomona (not establish a major, but rather offer courses at all). Without certain courses that become keywords on a resume (often filtered by AI before they ever reach human resources departments), Pomona students can be at a disadvantage immediately after graduation when seeking employment.

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Anonymous wrote:Who says it is “so special”?

US News?

OP: it’s extremely hard to get in and very highly ranked, so the question was, what is all the hullabaloo about?

Are you pretending to be dumb? Look at what components go into rankings, and you'll see what makes Pomona at or near the top of all the LAC rankings.

If I have to spell it out: Pomona is doing well because relative to other peer LACs, it excels in these factors and many more:
- Graduation and retention rates
- Selectivity and caliber of the entering students
- Post grad outcomes and earning potential
- Students receiving competitive fellowships and/or getting into top med/law/business schools
- Financial aid generosity
- Diversity
- Financial resources/endowment
- Faculty resources/salaries
- Student satisfaction surveys

Goodness. This thread is embarrassing. All these roundabout conversations that really have nothing to do with anything of consequence.

PP, are you pretending to be that dumb? The 5Cs have been caught no less than 2 times fudging their numbers. So, there.

Hi Pomona troll. Nice to see you back on another thread. As we discussed last time, the 5Cs are completely separate entities that share location and resources, so saying “the 5Cs” did anything is meaningless. But of course you remember that from last time you got smacked down by everyone for making these meaningless claims.

Are they completely separate, in the way that Haverford, Bryn Mawr and Swarthmore are?

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

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you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

I uh, actually, uh, lived there. Trust me, there are mountains in LA County.

ts rolling through.

And, I too, live there and have been on campus many times. It is HOT as a PP mentioned because all of that land used to be a dried-up flat ocean bed with a few tumbleweeds going by.
What you call "mountains" in So. Cals are, in reality, foothills and "rolling peaks". If you are talking about access to skiing, to get to any real mountains, your student will need a car or borrow one to drive to Big Sur, or Mammoth (the San Bernardino mountains don't count as "mountains" for most skiers - it's mostly for beginning skiers and has very short runs). Clairemont is geographically in the Pomona Valley, an alluvial fan. It is low and flat in three directions. The only "Mountain" near it is the Gabriel Mountain Range to the North West which loses elevation at Clairemont and Ontario andterminates/ at Cajon pass. To the North there is a hilly park above Clairemont called Clairemont Hill Wilderness Park. Once upon a time, there was a nice restaurant there for after-graduation meals To skip properly, you must make a long drive upstate to Mammoth, or Lake Tahoe. I had no car and didn't have to money to do that trip. So the location is not the be it all for some that the brochures and marketing make it out to be. You must have a car to get to any of those places. (or figure out rail or bus. It is hot but sunny. I don't like the air quality

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Anonymous wrote:Who says it is “so special”?

US News?

OP: it’s extremely hard to get in and very highly ranked, so the question was, what is all the hullabaloo about?

Are you pretending to be dumb? Look at what components go into rankings, and you'll see what makes Pomona at or near the top of all the LAC rankings.

If I have to spell it out: Pomona is doing well because relative to other peer LACs, it excels in these factors and many more:
- Graduation and retention rates
- Selectivity and caliber of the entering students
- Post grad outcomes and earning potential
- Students receiving competitive fellowships and/or getting into top med/law/business schools
- Financial aid generosity
- Diversity
- Financial resources/endowment
- Faculty resources/salaries
- Student satisfaction surveys

Goodness. This thread is embarrassing. All these roundabout conversations that really have nothing to do with anything of consequence.

PP, are you pretending to be that dumb? The 5Cs have been caught no less than 2 times fudging their numbers. So, there.

Hi Pomona troll. Nice to see you back on another thread. As we discussed last time, the 5Cs are completely separate entities that share location and resources, so saying “the 5Cs” did anything is meaningless. But of course you remember that from last time you got smacked down by everyone for making these meaningless claims.

Nice deflection!

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Anonymous wrote:Who says it is “so special”?

US News?

OP: it’s extremely hard to get in and very highly ranked, so the question was, what is all the hullabaloo about?

Are you pretending to be dumb? Look at what components go into rankings, and you'll see what makes Pomona at or near the top of all the LAC rankings.

If I have to spell it out: Pomona is doing well because relative to other peer LACs, it excels in these factors and many more:
- Graduation and retention rates
- Selectivity and caliber of the entering students
- Post grad outcomes and earning potential
- Students receiving competitive fellowships and/or getting into top med/law/business schools
- Financial aid generosity
- Diversity
- Financial resources/endowment
- Faculty resources/salaries
- Student satisfaction surveys

Goodness. This thread is embarrassing. All these roundabout conversations that really have nothing to do with anything of consequence.

PP, are you pretending to be that dumb? The 5Cs have been caught no less than 2 times fudging their numbers. So, there.

Hi Pomona troll. Nice to see you back on another thread. As we discussed last time, the 5Cs are completely separate entities that share location and resources, so saying “the 5Cs” did anything is meaningless. But of course you remember that from last time you got smacked down by everyone for making these meaningless claims.