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Anonymous wrote:The most insane part of this ridiculous thread:
Conservatives trying to use semantics to convince people that a D&C isn’t an “abortion” 😂

We live in the worst time line.

I’m pro-choice, and I had a miscarriage with a D&C, and I wouldn’t go and say that I had an abortion (even though that is the medical term). The accepted connotation of “abortion” is voluntarily ending a pregnancy.

Precision of terminology is important. If the term abortion is fully understood in its medical definition then sweeping abortion bans would have to be rewritten. But GOP doesn’t want that. They like the fear that the imprecision brings along because it makes the law even stricter than what they claim it is. Your procedure was legal, but there are extremists put there who would want to make it illegal.

And if we stopped demonizing the word abortion it wouldn’t matter to people what medical records say.

Yes, let’s just kill the unborn and call it “health care.”

The "unborn" don't even have souls. What's your problem with a woman removing these soulless creatures from their bodies?

How do you know unborn babies don’t have souls? Do you have a link to a confirmation via a scientific test? Post it.

Why is “unborn” in quotes? Are we not discussing unborn humans? Are you suggesting they are not unborn?

DP. I remember when my OB showed me the soul on the 20 week ultrasound when I was pregnant with my daughter. I thought it was her nose, but I was never good at those magic eye puzzles either, so ultrasounds really confound me. We never saw my son’s soul, but when he was born we realized he probably didn’t have one because he’s a ginger. Sorry, little guy, you’re cursed. I didn’t realize the soul was identifiable that early in the second trimester. I don’t remember my pregnancy app pointing out the soul being present then. It just said the fetus is the size of a plum and the organs are started and in their proper places. I guess it was implied that the soul was there, but I never really considered it an organ. Obviously I’m not a doctor like the PP.

“Unborn” is probably in quotes because there’s a better word: fetus.

The heart isn’t fully formed until nearly halfway through the pregnancy so the “heartbeat” is just cardiac activity before that. It’s funny how laws regarding healthcare are written around “common knowledge” and “accepted language” rather than medical facts and terminology.

There was a story in the Post several years ago about a little girl whose parents abused her and eventually fed her to pigs

Sorry, that child never should have had to "live" that way.

Would have been better never to have been brought into existence.

Go ahead, try to change my mind.

and then it comes down to religion

not all religions feel the same about when life begins

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Anonymous wrote:The most insane part of this ridiculous thread:
Conservatives trying to use semantics to convince people that a D&C isn’t an “abortion” 😂

We live in the worst time line.

I’m pro-choice, and I had a miscarriage with a D&C, and I wouldn’t go and say that I had an abortion (even though that is the medical term). The accepted connotation of “abortion” is voluntarily ending a pregnancy.

Precision of terminology is important. If the term abortion is fully understood in its medical definition then sweeping abortion bans would have to be rewritten. But GOP doesn’t want that. They like the fear that the imprecision brings along because it makes the law even stricter than what they claim it is. Your procedure was legal, but there are extremists put there who would want to make it illegal.

And if we stopped demonizing the word abortion it wouldn’t matter to people what medical records say.

Yes, let’s just kill the unborn and call it “health care.”

The "unborn" don't even have souls. What's your problem with a woman removing these soulless creatures from their bodies?

How do you know unborn babies don’t have souls? Do you have a link to a confirmation via a scientific test? Post it.

Why is “unborn” in quotes? Are we not discussing unborn humans? Are you suggesting they are not unborn?

DP. Probably “unborn” was in quotes because we’re talking about fetuses. We don’t usually refer to people by what they are not. When referring to people who are short, we don’t call them “the not tall.”

Is there a scientific test to determine if I have a soul?

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Anonymous wrote:The most insane part of this ridiculous thread:
Conservatives trying to use semantics to convince people that a D&C isn’t an “abortion” 😂

We live in the worst time line.

I’m pro-choice, and I had a miscarriage with a D&C, and I wouldn’t go and say that I had an abortion (even though that is the medical term). The accepted connotation of “abortion” is voluntarily ending a pregnancy.

Precision of terminology is important. If the term abortion is fully understood in its medical definition then sweeping abortion bans would have to be rewritten. But GOP doesn’t want that. They like the fear that the imprecision brings along because it makes the law even stricter than what they claim it is. Your procedure was legal, but there are extremists put there who would want to make it illegal.

And if we stopped demonizing the word abortion it wouldn’t matter to people what medical records say.

Yes, let’s just kill the unborn and call it “health care.”

The "unborn" don't even have souls. What's your problem with a woman removing these soulless creatures from their bodies?

also, why do you call humans “creatures?”

They aren’t creatures, they are humans.

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Anonymous wrote:The most insane part of this ridiculous thread:
Conservatives trying to use semantics to convince people that a D&C isn’t an “abortion” 😂

We live in the worst time line.

I’m pro-choice, and I had a miscarriage with a D&C, and I wouldn’t go and say that I had an abortion (even though that is the medical term). The accepted connotation of “abortion” is voluntarily ending a pregnancy.

Precision of terminology is important. If the term abortion is fully understood in its medical definition then sweeping abortion bans would have to be rewritten. But GOP doesn’t want that. They like the fear that the imprecision brings along because it makes the law even stricter than what they claim it is. Your procedure was legal, but there are extremists put there who would want to make it illegal.

And if we stopped demonizing the word abortion it wouldn’t matter to people what medical records say.

Yes, let’s just kill the unborn and call it “health care.”

The "unborn" don't even have souls. What's your problem with a woman removing these soulless creatures from their bodies?

How do you know unborn babies don’t have souls? Do you have a link to a confirmation via a scientific test? Post it.

Why is “unborn” in quotes? Are we not discussing unborn humans? Are you suggesting they are not unborn?

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Anonymous wrote:The most insane part of this ridiculous thread:
Conservatives trying to use semantics to convince people that a D&C isn’t an “abortion” 😂

We live in the worst time line.

I’m pro-choice, and I had a miscarriage with a D&C, and I wouldn’t go and say that I had an abortion (even though that is the medical term). The accepted connotation of “abortion” is voluntarily ending a pregnancy.

Precision of terminology is important. If the term abortion is fully understood in its medical definition then sweeping abortion bans would have to be rewritten. But GOP doesn’t want that. They like the fear that the imprecision brings along because it makes the law even stricter than what they claim it is. Your procedure was legal, but there are extremists put there who would want to make it illegal.

And if we stopped demonizing the word abortion it wouldn’t matter to people what medical records say.

Yes, let’s just kill the unborn and call it “health care.”

The "unborn" don't even have souls. What's your problem with a woman removing these soulless creatures from their bodies?

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Anonymous wrote:The most insane part of this ridiculous thread:
Conservatives trying to use semantics to convince people that a D&C isn’t an “abortion” 😂

We live in the worst time line.

I’m pro-choice, and I had a miscarriage with a D&C, and I wouldn’t go and say that I had an abortion (even though that is the medical term). The accepted connotation of “abortion” is voluntarily ending a pregnancy.

If your body doesn’t expel the fetus and you elect to have a d & c, you’re voluntarily ending the pregnancy on your own terms — which is a choice that should be between you and your doctor and should not involve lawmakers, but here we are.

I didn’t consider myself pregnant once I found out the fetus was not living.

Okay, but pregnancy isn’t like gender; it’s not about how you identify.

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Anonymous wrote:The most insane part of this ridiculous thread:
Conservatives trying to use semantics to convince people that a D&C isn’t an “abortion” 😂

We live in the worst time line.

I’m pro-choice, and I had a miscarriage with a D&C, and I wouldn’t go and say that I had an abortion (even though that is the medical term). The accepted connotation of “abortion” is voluntarily ending a pregnancy.

If your body doesn’t expel the fetus and you elect to have a d & c, you’re voluntarily ending the pregnancy on your own terms — which is a choice that should be between you and your doctor and should not involve lawmakers, but here we are.

I didn’t consider myself pregnant once I found out the fetus was not living.

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Anonymous wrote:The most insane part of this ridiculous thread:
Conservatives trying to use semantics to convince people that a D&C isn’t an “abortion” 😂

We live in the worst time line.

The most insane part of this thread: rabid libs conflating spontaneous abortions and elective abortions.

Jessa didn’t have a spontaneous abortion. She had a surgical procedure, which is not spontaneous.

Well I guess it depends on the woman. We can trust Jessa that her intentions are pure, but we might not be able to trust other women.
So the laws are written as such.

Abortion is abortion.
f your feelings. Your intentions are irrelevant.
It’s a medical procedure. I realize lots of women are upset to have that word used for their procedures, but they need to take it up with their churches. Discomfort with verbiage is harmful to women seeking healthcare.

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Anonymous wrote:The most insane part of this ridiculous thread:
Conservatives trying to use semantics to convince people that a D&C isn’t an “abortion” 😂

We live in the worst time line.

The most insane part of this thread: rabid libs conflating spontaneous abortions and elective abortions.

Os a woman who chooses a surgical or medical abortion for an impending miscarriage having a spontaneous abortion or elective one? Who gets to decide that?

The hospital’s lawyers if you live in Ohio, Arkansas, Texas, Missouri, etc. And each hospital may come to different determinations depending on which lawyer is making a good faith effort to interpret the ambiguities of the written law.

These Republican laws are basically a stimulus program for attorneys. Oh the irony.

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Anonymous wrote:The most insane part of this ridiculous thread:
Conservatives trying to use semantics to convince people that a D&C isn’t an “abortion” 😂

We live in the worst time line.

The most insane part of this thread: rabid libs conflating spontaneous abortions and elective abortions.

Jessa didn’t have a spontaneous abortion. She had a surgical procedure, which is not spontaneous.

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Anonymous wrote:The most insane part of this ridiculous thread:
Conservatives trying to use semantics to convince people that a D&C isn’t an “abortion” 😂

We live in the worst time line.

I’m pro-choice, and I had a miscarriage with a D&C, and I wouldn’t go and say that I had an abortion (even though that is the medical term). The accepted connotation of “abortion” is voluntarily ending a pregnancy.

If your body doesn’t expel the fetus and you elect to have a d & c, you’re voluntarily ending the pregnancy on your own terms — which is a choice that should be between you and your doctor and should not involve lawmakers, but here we are.

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are performed for convenience.

The vast majority of people kill their own children because their own children are inconvenient to them.

Liberals want to kill babies before they are born because they think the baby might be a criminal.

If this thread doesn’t chill you, you aren’t a feeling human.

These statements are ridiculous.

But I’m just curious, what do you think happens to unwanted children when they grow up?
Who do you think they become?
Who do you think are in prisons?
70% of children in foster care are sent to jail by age 26.
How many of those kids were planned pregnancies?

It’s not ethical or moral to kill another human because of statistical information.

I am glad I am not such a morally bereft person that I think the lives of other humans are disposable because it inconveniences me.

Real ghouls openly advocating for eugenics, genocide, and the killing of innocent unborn on this thread.

I’m not talking about killing humans. I’m talking about planning for live people. Children who are born into this world with no help or hope.
But maybe we should talk about killing people. That’s maybe part of this discussion.
What happens with an unplanned baby grows up without love, support, and guidance?
Are you ok with the second graders murdered at Uvalde? They were killed by an unwanted child.
Are you ok with the students murdered at MSD high school? Also killed by an unwanted child.
Of course you can’t eliminate all crime and carnage, but easy access to family planning is a great start.
Abortion is family planning. Abortion is healthcare.

So… no intelligent response to this.
Not surprising, but I hope it gives some of the forced birth trolls something to think about.