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Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

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Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

Horizon Hill is not a walk zone to Wootton because Horizon Hill is not assigned to Wootton. To repeat:

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

HH was a walkzone to Wootton. They pulled HH out to RM for diversity.

If it wasn't a walkzone, then why did they not provide bus service?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/05/25/school-shift-stirs-rockville-dispute/a460e6bd-9d22-4b6d-a490-c8aef025f231/

They were walkers to Wootton. Now, they get bused.

In 1987. Nineteen eighty seven. 2023-1987 = 36 years ago. In 2023, which is now, Horizon Hill is not in the walk zone for Wootton (or Frost).

You're correct.. it's not because MCPS decided it was not. But, it was.

That goes for every walk zone. Every walk zone is a walk zone because MCPS decided it was. Just like every bus zone is a bus zone because MCPS decided it was.

If you want MCPS to reassign Horizon Hill back to Wootton and Frost, maybe think of reasons why MCPS should do that now, within the framework of current MCPS policy on boundary studies - instead of carrying on about the 1987 (!!!!!) rezoning as though it were the worst injustice in the history of the world.

The bolded is EXACTLY my point.

A current walk zone may end up being bused to a different cluster when they redraw the boundary. Just because the neighborhood is very walkable to the school, it won't mean that MCPS won't zone your neighborhood elsewhere and bus your kids.

But, if MCPS is serious about walk zones, then they should rezone HH to a walk zone and not just give hot air to the "walk zone" talk. Otherwise, it will be clear that they put diversity above everything else, including proximity and walkability.

In all of the recent boundary studies, MCPS went to a lot of trouble to keep every student who was already in a walk zone in a walk zone. Zero students in walk zones were reassigned to be in bus zones. So yes, it actually does mean that if the neighborhood is in a walk zone, MCPS won't reassign the neighborhood to a different school (unless the neighborhood would also be in a walk zone for that school).

But Horizon Hill is not in a walk zone. Horizon Hill is in a bus zone. So that doesn't apply to Horizon Hill.

Now, MCPS might reassign Horizon Hill from a bus zone for RM to a walk zone for Wootton. That's what they did with the Rolling Hills apartments, which before the upcounty boundary study were in the bus zone for Northwest, but are now in the walk zone for Seneca Valley. Or, they might not - for example, the neighborhoods west of Germantown Road that were in the bus zone for Northwest and stayed in the bus zone for Northwest, even though they would have been in the walk zone for Seneca Valley. Geography/walking is ONE factor. It is not the ONLY factor.

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Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

Horizon Hill is not a walk zone to Wootton because Horizon Hill is not assigned to Wootton. To repeat:

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

HH was a walkzone to Wootton. They pulled HH out to RM for diversity.

If it wasn't a walkzone, then why did they not provide bus service?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/05/25/school-shift-stirs-rockville-dispute/a460e6bd-9d22-4b6d-a490-c8aef025f231/

They were walkers to Wootton. Now, they get bused.

In 1987. Nineteen eighty seven. 2023-1987 = 36 years ago. In 2023, which is now, Horizon Hill is not in the walk zone for Wootton (or Frost).

You're correct.. it's not because MCPS decided it was not. But, it was.

It's not in the walkzone. You need to let this go and move on.

It's not about HH, per se, but what MCPS deems "walk zone", and whether they will walk the talk or just talk about walk zones. I used HH as just an example. It could be any area that is very walkable to a school but that is current bused to a different cluster.

Based on recent (not 1987) boundary decisions, MCPS will not reassign someone who is in a walk zone to instead be in a bus zone. However, Horizon Hill is not in a walk zone. Horizon Hill is in a bus zone. Will MCPS reassign Horizon Hill from RM to Wootton? Maybe. Or, maybe not. Also, what about MCPS families in Horizon Hill who don't want to be reassigned from RM to Wootton?