Anonymous
03/12/2023 21:54
Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Whitman debate team incident is one example of how the disciplinary policies are failing. The perpetrators were suspended from the debate team for a month. They should have been kicked out!
Debate contests are once a month.
Yes. They should have been thrown out. Agree.
Anonymous
03/12/2023 14:50
Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Student behavior is out of control. Leniency breeds more bad behavior. Time to step-up, MCPS!!
You mean time for MCPD to step it up. MCPS job is to educate students not to dole out justice.
When kids are violent, you call the cops. Done.
Also, MCPS lacks the means to prosecute hate crimes, whereas MCPD does.
Every violent crime is a hate crime.
No. There is a specific definition:
In Montgomery County, a hate crime is a criminal
act that is intended to damage property or to hurt or
intimidate a person because of race, religion, ethnic
background, sexual orientation, or disability. The
State of Maryland also extends protections for hate
crimes based on: gender, gender-related identity,
color, or homelessness.
^ This only creates division.
EVERY crime is a hate crime.
Raging maniacs don’t much care who their target happens to be. It’s not about you.
That’s just not the case. The DOJ has a clear reason why this distinction exists:
Why have hate crime laws?
“Hate crimes have a broader effect than most other kinds of crime. Hate crime victims include not only the crime’s immediate target but also others like them. Hate crimes affect families, communities, and at times, the entire nation.”
https://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/learn-about-hate-crimes
In other words, bias-motivated crimes both a) harm a person directly AND b) intend to terrorize or intimidate a broader group beyond that person – hence making them a more serious offense.
Anonymous
03/11/2023 08:18
Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Student behavior is out of control. Leniency breeds more bad behavior. Time to step-up, MCPS!!
You mean time for MCPD to step it up. MCPS job is to educate students not to dole out justice.
When kids are violent, you call the cops. Done.
Also, MCPS lacks the means to prosecute hate crimes, whereas MCPD does.
Every violent crime is a hate crime.
No. There is a specific definition:
In Montgomery County, a hate crime is a criminal
act that is intended to damage property or to hurt or
intimidate a person because of race, religion, ethnic
background, sexual orientation, or disability. The
State of Maryland also extends protections for hate
crimes based on: gender, gender-related identity,
color, or homelessness.
^ This only creates division.
EVERY crime is a hate crime.
Raging maniacs don’t much care who their target happens to be. It’s not about you.
Leaving aside the definition, which is clear that hate crimes are a specific type of act, it’s easy to say that all hate is the same until someone shoots up Your mosque or Your synagogue or Your church. If “your” group is the target, whatever that group may be, you don’t have the luxury of concluding that “hate is hate.” You need to have specific protections in place, and the specificity of the law is one such protection because it can potentially alert people to danger and help the community/law enforcement be aware of and also prepare for and address specific threats and acts.
Anonymous
03/09/2023 10:28
Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Student behavior is out of control. Leniency breeds more bad behavior. Time to step-up, MCPS!!
You mean time for MCPD to step it up. MCPS job is to educate students not to dole out justice.
When kids are violent, you call the cops. Done.
Also, MCPS lacks the means to prosecute hate crimes, whereas MCPD does.
Every violent crime is a hate crime.
No. There is a specific definition:
In Montgomery County, a hate crime is a criminal
act that is intended to damage property or to hurt or
intimidate a person because of race, religion, ethnic
background, sexual orientation, or disability. The
State of Maryland also extends protections for hate
crimes based on: gender, gender-related identity,
color, or homelessness.
Yes, this.
Anonymous
03/09/2023 10:17
Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Student behavior is out of control. Leniency breeds more bad behavior. Time to step-up, MCPS!!
You mean time for MCPD to step it up. MCPS job is to educate students not to dole out justice.
When kids are violent, you call the cops. Done.
Also, MCPS lacks the means to prosecute hate crimes, whereas MCPD does.
Every violent crime is a hate crime.
No. There is a specific definition:
In Montgomery County, a hate crime is a criminal
act that is intended to damage property or to hurt or
intimidate a person because of race, religion, ethnic
background, sexual orientation, or disability. The
State of Maryland also extends protections for hate
crimes based on: gender, gender-related identity,
color, or homelessness.
^ This only creates division.
EVERY crime is a hate crime.
Raging maniacs don’t much care who their target happens to be. It’s not about you.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 14:08
Subject: Re:9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Maybe I missed a previous string on this but MoCo had previous incidents of antiblack vandalism and messaging was it was punished with (appropriately) suspensions. Why would these events not be punished equally? That would be real justice. I simply didn't understand 'restorative justice... sounds like injustice to me. Not a good thing to be teaching.
Because if they punished things equally, blacks would be disproportionately suspended.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 14:08
Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Student behavior is out of control. Leniency breeds more bad behavior. Time to step-up, MCPS!!
You mean time for MCPD to step it up. MCPS job is to educate students not to dole out justice.
When kids are violent, you call the cops. Done.
Also, MCPS lacks the means to prosecute hate crimes, whereas MCPD does.
Every violent crime is a hate crime.
This.
No, not that.
Yes, yes that.
And I know why you don't like it, but it is what it is.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 14:07
Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Student behavior is out of control. Leniency breeds more bad behavior. Time to step-up, MCPS!!
You mean time for MCPD to step it up. MCPS job is to educate students not to dole out justice.
When kids are violent, you call the cops. Done.
Also, MCPS lacks the means to prosecute hate crimes, whereas MCPD does.
Every violent crime is a hate crime.
No. There is a specific definition:
In Montgomery County, a hate crime is a criminal
act that is intended to damage property or to hurt or
intimidate a person because of race, religion, ethnic
background, sexual orientation, or disability. The
State of Maryland also extends protections for hate
crimes based on: gender, gender-related identity,
color, or homelessness.
How exactly do you prove an ethnic “hate” crime when you can’t prove that the perp hates your ethnicity? But you know he did.
... because he told you he hates your ethnicity.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 14:06
Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:The Whitman debate team incident is one example of how the disciplinary policies are failing. The perpetrators were suspended from the debate team for a month. They should have been kicked out!
Debate contests are once a month.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 14:06
Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Student behavior is out of control. Leniency breeds more bad behavior. Time to step-up, MCPS!!
You mean time for MCPD to step it up. MCPS job is to educate students not to dole out justice.
When kids are violent, you call the cops. Done.
Also, MCPS lacks the means to prosecute hate crimes, whereas MCPD does.
Every violent crime is a hate crime.
No. There is a specific definition:
In Montgomery County, a hate crime is a criminal
act that is intended to damage property or to hurt or
intimidate a person because of race, religion, ethnic
background, sexual orientation, or disability. The
State of Maryland also extends protections for hate
crimes based on: gender, gender-related identity,
color, or homelessness.
How exactly do you prove an ethnic “hate” crime when you can’t prove that the perp hates your ethnicity? But you know he did.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 14:01
Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Student behavior is out of control. Leniency breeds more bad behavior. Time to step-up, MCPS!!
You mean time for MCPD to step it up. MCPS job is to educate students not to dole out justice.
When kids are violent, you call the cops. Done.
Also, MCPS lacks the means to prosecute hate crimes, whereas MCPD does.
Every violent crime is a hate crime.
This.
No, not that.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 14:00
Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Student behavior is out of control. Leniency breeds more bad behavior. Time to step-up, MCPS!!
You mean time for MCPD to step it up. MCPS job is to educate students not to dole out justice.
When kids are violent, you call the cops. Done.
Also, MCPS lacks the means to prosecute hate crimes, whereas MCPD does.
Every violent crime is a hate crime.
This.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 13:29
Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Student behavior is out of control. Leniency breeds more bad behavior. Time to step-up, MCPS!!
You mean time for MCPD to step it up. MCPS job is to educate students not to dole out justice.
When kids are violent, you call the cops. Done.
Also, MCPS lacks the means to prosecute hate crimes, whereas MCPD does.
Every violent crime is a hate crime.
No. There is a specific definition:
In Montgomery County, a hate crime is a criminal
act that is intended to damage property or to hurt or
intimidate a person because of race, religion, ethnic
background, sexual orientation, or disability. The
State of Maryland also extends protections for hate
crimes based on: gender, gender-related identity,
color, or homelessness.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 13:06
Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
When MCPS refuses to punish 7 year old students who beat their teachers, why wouldn’t you expect them to destroy public property and disrespect whatever faith or color you are?
I’m sorry, you people are insane. You don’t care, until you are the target. If you want to change anything, you start with effective consequences for EVERY crime.
MCPS doesn't have the authority to punish or judge guilt. These are matters for MCPD and the courts.
Liar. Schools absolutely have the authority to enforce consequences for egregious behavior.
Why is PP defending school lawlessness?
That’s what the school administrators do.
Anonymous
03/08/2023 13:06
Subject: 9 Mcps Antisemitic incidents since Friday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Student behavior is out of control. Leniency breeds more bad behavior. Time to step-up, MCPS!!
You mean time for MCPD to step it up. MCPS job is to educate students not to dole out justice.
When kids are violent, you call the cops. Done.
Also, MCPS lacks the means to prosecute hate crimes, whereas MCPD does.
Every violent crime is a hate crime.