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Anonymous wrote:I would absolutely do this. I would have sooner run away from home than be in a bathing suit in front of my peers.

This.
This activity is totally inappropriate to force on 14 year olds in school.

Swimming lessons save lives and a lot of kids might never have the chance to learn outside a program like this.

DP. I’m willing to bet every single girl in OP’s situation already knows how to swim. Many, if not all of us are fine with this type of thing in elementary school.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we're screwed as a society. People can't handle requirements and want to scream and shout about any and every thing their children say they don't want to do. There's too much self-centeredness in American culture. No willingness to sacrifice comfort for the greater good or to merely overcome something you find challenging, annoying or intimidating.

This is why kids are growing up entitled and spoiled and transitioning into dysfunctional adults. Sad.

Give me a break, we’re talking about 8th grade PE. If your workplace held a mandatory team building activity at an indoor pool, you think all the adults raised in the olden days would show up happily in their suits?

You might think it’s “just” 8th grade, but this is what’s important in her life right now. Therefore, teaching her how to overcome very normal insecurities about it is what will help her have the tools to overcome insecurities later on in life.

Yes, THIS is the one and only way a kid can learn these tools.

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Anonymous wrote:I would absolutely do this. I would have sooner run away from home than be in a bathing suit in front of my peers.

This.
This activity is totally inappropriate to force on 14 year olds in school.

Swimming lessons save lives and a lot of kids might never have the chance to learn outside a program like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Im surprised by these answers! OP I would have done what you did. It’s not like she’s asking for excuses to get out of things all the time and not is swimming in front of a group of your colleagues and classmates a necessary life skill.

No, but grit and resilience sure are.

What do grit and resilience do with not getting into a pool? At my Child's school if kids wanted to opt out of the swim unit they would run laps or do cardio which takes plenty of grit and resilience. This is ridiculous and I'm doubting whether you should be a parent yourself if you are.

You've missed the point. It's not which exercise they're doing. It's the fact that op's daughter feels uncomfortable. And instead of figuring out ways to help her survive this weeks long unit with tools to help her (rash guard, swim cap), instead op's mom is letting her not do the required unit and getting a DOCTOR to lie about it (yes I know that the doc didn't write something specific, but it's still a doctors note, so it implies a medical issue). Maybe those of us who had to do uncomfortable things and move on learned from it, maybe we are stronger for it. Parents these days are taking all obstacles from their children in a misguided attempt to keep them happy and mentally healthy. If the op's kid were getting bullied over a swimsuit it would be one thing. But her reasons are not enough to pull her, imo.

When this kid can't handle college and real life with any sort of resilience, this is the type of thing that op will forget had anything to do with it. Isn't there a post here about a 30 year old man who is MAD at his parents for giving him too much and now his credit score isn't great? So people are suggesting to help him even more. Let's get serious here...we are creating a generation of entitled kids if we do things like this.

lol

Don't want to get in a bathing suit in front of your middle school peers? Enjoy failing at life, loser!


Seriously? Is this really the only way in which she'll be able to overcome obstacles and learn resilience?

Not PP but - of course it’s not the only way, but it’s one of them. If she gets the message she can just opt out of a graduation requirement because she doesn’t feel like it, then what’s next? In real life, you can’t always just say you don’t feel like doing things. Sometimes you just have to suck it up.

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Anonymous wrote:I would absolutely do this. I would have sooner run away from home than be in a bathing suit in front of my peers.

This.
This activity is totally inappropriate to force on 14 year olds in school.

Anonymous wrote:You're sending her these messages:

Your backne is embarrassing.

Your insecurities are more important than other's' insecurities.

When life is unpleasant, you should avoid it.

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Anonymous wrote:You're sending her these messages:

Your backne is embarrassing.

Your insecurities are more important than other's' insecurities.

When life is unpleasant, you should avoid it.

Exactly.

OP, this sends a terrible message to your kid.

I don't think any of you remember what it was like to be a 14 year old girl. Or you're men.

And you think the other 14 yr old girls in class really want to do the swim class? I guarantee none of them do. Should they all get a note from mom because they don’t want to do it? Only the boys have to swim? Or is it is everyone that doesn’t feel like swimming doesn’t have to?

I don't care about other girls. I care about mine. I do not care if you like it, approve, think it's selfish, or anything else.

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the morally corrupt, spiritually bankrupt, self-centered, entitled American right before your eyes!

1000%

You ladies or gentlemen really need help. Please take the weekend to examine your lives and relax, and determine why you need to react as you do to things that do not concern you. Don't affect you. And quite frankly, aren't that big of a F'in deal.

Seriously.

Actually, this "type" of thing does affect me because I'm a teacher. And kids' behavior has gotten significantly bad in the last decade, and no it's not Covid. It's the "my kid is above the rules" attitude of getting them out of things they don't want to do. It's the "I don't give an F about the rules because my parents will back me up" type of behavior that is literally destroying the schools from the inside out. So yeah, it does affect me when I hear a parent get a doctors note so her kid doesn't have frizzy hair. She needs to get a grip and you need to get a grip. It's not this one issue, it's a whole mentality and it's gotten bad and that is why teachers are leaving in droves. Keep up this "me me me" attitude and there won't actually be a public school system for your grandkids. Or to educate the masses. Good luck paying a ton of money for private tutors!!

From another teacher- this!!
Parents stop babying your kids!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're sending her these messages:

Your backne is embarrassing.

Your insecurities are more important than other's' insecurities.

When life is unpleasant, you should avoid it.

Exactly.

OP, this sends a terrible message to your kid.

I don't think any of you remember what it was like to be a 14 year old girl. Or you're men.

And you think the other 14 yr old girls in class really want to do the swim class? I guarantee none of them do. Should they all get a note from mom because they don’t want to do it? Only the boys have to swim? Or is it is everyone that doesn’t feel like swimming doesn’t have to?

I don't care about other girls. I care about mine. I do not care if you like it, approve, think it's selfish, or anything else.

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the morally corrupt, spiritually bankrupt, self-centered, entitled American right before your eyes!

1000%

You ladies or gentlemen really need help. Please take the weekend to examine your lives and relax, and determine why you need to react as you do to things that do not concern you. Don't affect you. And quite frankly, aren't that big of a F'in deal.

Seriously.

Actually, this "type" of thing does affect me because I'm a teacher. And kids' behavior has gotten significantly bad in the last decade, and no it's not Covid. It's the "my kid is above the rules" attitude of getting them out of things they don't want to do. It's the "I don't give an F about the rules because my parents will back me up" type of behavior that is literally destroying the schools from the inside out. So yeah, it does affect me when I hear a parent get a doctors note so her kid doesn't have frizzy hair. She needs to get a grip and you need to get a grip. It's not this one issue, it's a whole mentality and it's gotten bad and that is why teachers are leaving in droves. Keep up this "me me me" attitude and there won't actually be a public school system for your grandkids. Or to educate the masses. Good luck paying a ton of money for private tutors!!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're sending her these messages:

Your backne is embarrassing.

Your insecurities are more important than other's' insecurities.

When life is unpleasant, you should avoid it.

Exactly.

OP, this sends a terrible message to your kid.

I don't think any of you remember what it was like to be a 14 year old girl. Or you're men.

And you think the other 14 yr old girls in class really want to do the swim class? I guarantee none of them do. Should they all get a note from mom because they don’t want to do it? Only the boys have to swim? Or is it is everyone that doesn’t feel like swimming doesn’t have to?

I don't care about other girls. I care about mine. I do not care if you like it, approve, think it's selfish, or anything else.

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the morally corrupt, spiritually bankrupt, self-centered, entitled American right before your eyes!

1000%

You ladies or gentlemen really need help. Please take the weekend to examine your lives and relax, and determine why you need to react as you do to things that do not concern you. Don't affect you. And quite frankly, aren't that big of a F'in deal.

Seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're sending her these messages:

Your backne is embarrassing.

Your insecurities are more important than other's' insecurities.

When life is unpleasant, you should avoid it.

Exactly.

OP, this sends a terrible message to your kid.

I don't think any of you remember what it was like to be a 14 year old girl. Or you're men.

And you think the other 14 yr old girls in class really want to do the swim class? I guarantee none of them do. Should they all get a note from mom because they don’t want to do it? Only the boys have to swim? Or is it is everyone that doesn’t feel like swimming doesn’t have to?

I don't care about other girls. I care about mine. I do not care if you like it, approve, think it's selfish, or anything else.

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the morally corrupt, spiritually bankrupt, self-centered, entitled American right before your eyes!

1000%

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're sending her these messages:

Your backne is embarrassing.

Your insecurities are more important than other's' insecurities.

When life is unpleasant, you should avoid it.

Exactly.

OP, this sends a terrible message to your kid.

I don't think any of you remember what it was like to be a 14 year old girl. Or you're men.

And you think the other 14 yr old girls in class really want to do the swim class? I guarantee none of them do. Should they all get a note from mom because they don’t want to do it? Only the boys have to swim? Or is it is everyone that doesn’t feel like swimming doesn’t have to?

I don't care about other girls. I care about mine. I do not care if you like it, approve, think it's selfish, or anything else.

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the morally corrupt, spiritually bankrupt, self-centered, entitled American right before your eyes!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're sending her these messages:

Your backne is embarrassing.

Your insecurities are more important than other's' insecurities.

When life is unpleasant, you should avoid it.

Exactly.

OP, this sends a terrible message to your kid.

I don't think any of you remember what it was like to be a 14 year old girl. Or you're men.

And you think the other 14 yr old girls in class really want to do the swim class? I guarantee none of them do. Should they all get a note from mom because they don’t want to do it? Only the boys have to swim? Or is it is everyone that doesn’t feel like swimming doesn’t have to?

I don't care about other girls. I care about mine. I do not care if you like it, approve, think it's selfish, or anything else.

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the morally corrupt, spiritually bankrupt, self-centered, entitled American right before your eyes!

1000%

Get a grip. Even Miss America scrapped the swimsuit portion.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're sending her these messages:

Your backne is embarrassing.

Your insecurities are more important than other's' insecurities.

When life is unpleasant, you should avoid it.

Exactly.

OP, this sends a terrible message to your kid.

I don't think any of you remember what it was like to be a 14 year old girl. Or you're men.

And you think the other 14 yr old girls in class really want to do the swim class? I guarantee none of them do. Should they all get a note from mom because they don’t want to do it? Only the boys have to swim? Or is it is everyone that doesn’t feel like swimming doesn’t have to?

I don't care about other girls. I care about mine. I do not care if you like it, approve, think it's selfish, or anything else.

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the morally corrupt, spiritually bankrupt, self-centered, entitled American right before your eyes!

1000%

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're sending her these messages:

Your backne is embarrassing.

Your insecurities are more important than other's' insecurities.

When life is unpleasant, you should avoid it.

Exactly.

OP, this sends a terrible message to your kid.

I don't think any of you remember what it was like to be a 14 year old girl. Or you're men.

And you think the other 14 yr old girls in class really want to do the swim class? I guarantee none of them do. Should they all get a note from mom because they don’t want to do it? Only the boys have to swim? Or is it is everyone that doesn’t feel like swimming doesn’t have to?

I don't care about other girls. I care about mine. I do not care if you like it, approve, think it's selfish, or anything else.

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the morally corrupt, spiritually bankrupt, self-centered, entitled American right before your eyes!