Anonymous
01/09/2023 19:27
Subject: Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.
And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!
If Sandy Hook didn’t spur a rethinking of guns in this country, nothing will.
Your pessimism is nihilistic and useless.
Yes, parents are now being charged. In Michigan, the parents were charged. Here, this seems a clear case to charge the parent.
Ok, that still doesn’t change anything. Do you think a wounded teacher will move the needle when classrooms full of dead kids didn’t?
Yes.
It’s already dropped off of the national radar. What change do you think this will spur that Ulvade didn’t?
Uvalde brought a bipartisan gun legislation that restricted gun sales, increased background checks, new criminal offenses, etc. It was not the assault weapons ban that we wanted to see but it's the first gun legislation in 3 decades. The chaos in the House does not bode well for a new assault weapons ban - but it doesn't bode ill either.
Nothing passed after Uvalde would have prevented Uvalde
Then there's more work to do. I said as much in my post.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 19:14
Subject: Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.
And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!
If Sandy Hook didn’t spur a rethinking of guns in this country, nothing will.
Your pessimism is nihilistic and useless.
Yes, parents are now being charged. In Michigan, the parents were charged. Here, this seems a clear case to charge the parent.
Ok, that still doesn’t change anything. Do you think a wounded teacher will move the needle when classrooms full of dead kids didn’t?
Yes.
It’s already dropped off of the national radar. What change do you think this will spur that Ulvade didn’t?
Uvalde brought a bipartisan gun legislation that restricted gun sales, increased background checks, new criminal offenses, etc. It was not the assault weapons ban that we wanted to see but it's the first gun legislation in 3 decades. The chaos in the House does not bode well for a new assault weapons ban - but it doesn't bode ill either.
Nothing passed after Uvalde would have prevented Uvalde
Anonymous
01/09/2023 19:14
Subject: Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.
And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!
If Sandy Hook didn’t spur a rethinking of guns in this country, nothing will.
Your pessimism is nihilistic and useless.
Yes, parents are now being charged. In Michigan, the parents were charged. Here, this seems a clear case to charge the parent.
Ok, that still doesn’t change anything. Do you think a wounded teacher will move the needle when classrooms full of dead kids didn’t?
Yes.
NP here. I appreciate your optimism, but I’m afraid you’re wrong. Agree with PP—if Sandy Hook or Parkland didn’t move the needle, this won’t either. Americans cling to their guns more than they cling to other people’s children or children’s teachers.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 19:13
Subject: Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school
Anonymous wrote:She's a hero, and I really hope this doesn't drive her and her fellow teachers out of teaching. I'm rather amazed that she survived a close range shot in the abdomen. Was there a report of what kind of gun?
I hope she does whatever feels least stressful and is most likely to bring her peace and healing. I think there is a good chance that won’t be returning to teaching.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 19:12
Subject: Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.
And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!
If Sandy Hook didn’t spur a rethinking of guns in this country, nothing will.
Your pessimism is nihilistic and useless.
Yes, parents are now being charged. In Michigan, the parents were charged. Here, this seems a clear case to charge the parent.
Ok, that still doesn’t change anything. Do you think a wounded teacher will move the needle when classrooms full of dead kids didn’t?
Yes.
np here. Congress didn’t even act after a fellow congresswoman was shot in the head. I have no hope for change.
Yes, there does seem to be a lot of that.
Hopelessness isn't helpful. Change your mindset.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 19:10
Subject: Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.
And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!
If Sandy Hook didn’t spur a rethinking of guns in this country, nothing will.
Your pessimism is nihilistic and useless.
Yes, parents are now being charged. In Michigan, the parents were charged. Here, this seems a clear case to charge the parent.
Ok, that still doesn’t change anything. Do you think a wounded teacher will move the needle when classrooms full of dead kids didn’t?
Yes.
np here. Congress didn’t even act after a fellow congresswoman was shot in the head. I have no hope for change.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 19:07
Subject: Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.
And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!
If Sandy Hook didn’t spur a rethinking of guns in this country, nothing will.
Sometimes change happens quickly or all at once. Sometimes change happens slowly over time. Just because change didn't happen all at once doesn't mean it won't happen. We are slowly coming to rethink guns in this country.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 18:55
Subject: Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.
And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!
If Sandy Hook didn’t spur a rethinking of guns in this country, nothing will.
Your pessimism is nihilistic and useless.
Yes, parents are now being charged. In Michigan, the parents were charged. Here, this seems a clear case to charge the parent.
Ok, that still doesn’t change anything. Do you think a wounded teacher will move the needle when classrooms full of dead kids didn’t?
Yes.
It’s already dropped off of the national radar. What change do you think this will spur that Ulvade didn’t?
Uvalde brought a bipartisan gun legislation that restricted gun sales, increased background checks, new criminal offenses, etc. It was not the assault weapons ban that we wanted to see but it's the first gun legislation in 3 decades. The chaos in the House does not bode well for a new assault weapons ban - but it doesn't bode ill either.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 18:51
Subject: Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.
And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!
If Sandy Hook didn’t spur a rethinking of guns in this country, nothing will.
Your pessimism is nihilistic and useless.
Yes, parents are now being charged. In Michigan, the parents were charged. Here, this seems a clear case to charge the parent.
Ok, that still doesn’t change anything. Do you think a wounded teacher will move the needle when classrooms full of dead kids didn’t?
Yes.
It’s already dropped off of the national radar. What change do you think this will spur that Ulvade didn’t?
Anonymous
01/09/2023 18:49
Subject: Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.
And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!
If Sandy Hook didn’t spur a rethinking of guns in this country, nothing will.
Your pessimism is nihilistic and useless.
Yes, parents are now being charged. In Michigan, the parents were charged. Here, this seems a clear case to charge the parent.
Ok, that still doesn’t change anything. Do you think a wounded teacher will move the needle when classrooms full of dead kids didn’t?
Yes.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 18:46
Subject: Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.
And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!
If Sandy Hook didn’t spur a rethinking of guns in this country, nothing will.
Your pessimism is nihilistic and useless.
Yes, parents are now being charged. In Michigan, the parents were charged. Here, this seems a clear case to charge the parent.
Ok, that still doesn’t change anything. Do you think a wounded teacher will move the needle when classrooms full of dead kids didn’t?
Anonymous
01/09/2023 18:46
Subject: Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school
Anonymous wrote:and whet it turns out the family are felons and not legal gun owners?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.
And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!
2A 4ever!
MAGA
/s
Well well well…how the turntables.
The child got the gun from his mother, who was a legal gun owner.
Now what? No straw man for you to attack this time!
Anonymous
01/09/2023 18:35
Subject: Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.
And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!
If Sandy Hook didn’t spur a rethinking of guns in this country, nothing will.
Your pessimism is nihilistic and useless.
Yes, parents are now being charged. In Michigan, the parents were charged. Here, this seems a clear case to charge the parent.
Anonymous
01/09/2023 17:43
Subject: Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school
She's a hero, and I really hope this doesn't drive her and her fellow teachers out of teaching. I'm rather amazed that she survived a close range shot in the abdomen. Was there a report of what kind of gun?