Anonymous
11/13/2023 14:28
Subject: Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Anonymous wrote:Don't worry, a Cleveland Park ANC reps says everything is fine now because it used to be worse:
https://x.com/niawag1/status/1724107152241865133?t=XlGZeH-9NGxQjsZHbK4EiQ&s=09
I was out in his district on Saturday night and it was a ghost town except for people asking for money. All the bars and restaurants were mostly empty in what used to be a lively strip.
No doubt they will blame it, not on crime, but on not enough urban vibrancy and density!
Anonymous
11/13/2023 13:54
Subject: Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't worry, a Cleveland Park ANC reps says everything is fine now because it used to be worse:
https://x.com/niawag1/status/1724107152241865133?t=XlGZeH-9NGxQjsZHbK4EiQ&s=09
I was out in his district on Saturday night and it was a ghost town except for people asking for money. All the bars and restaurants were mostly empty in what used to be a lively strip.
This is so unacceptable. Also, he claims on his Twitter/X that people were getting shot in his alley and on his street 20 years ago. Doesn't he represent a very exclusive enclave in Woodley Park? It doesn't sound even remotely believable.
What an ass. We are significantly wors than not only 10 years ago, but 5 years ago. What does 30 years ago have to do with anything today? Especially when we have more murders this year than in 1997!
Anonymous
11/13/2023 13:44
Subject: Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't worry, a Cleveland Park ANC reps says everything is fine now because it used to be worse:
https://x.com/niawag1/status/1724107152241865133?t=XlGZeH-9NGxQjsZHbK4EiQ&s=09
I was out in his district on Saturday night and it was a ghost town except for people asking for money. All the bars and restaurants were mostly empty in what used to be a lively strip.
This is so unacceptable. Also, he claims on his Twitter/X that people were getting shot in his alley and on his street 20 years ago. Doesn't he represent a very exclusive enclave in Woodley Park? It doesn't sound even remotely believable.
In his profile picture he’s wearing a bike helmet, which explains all I need to know about him and the credibility of what he says.
Anonymous
11/13/2023 13:26
Subject: Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Anonymous wrote:Don't worry, a Cleveland Park ANC reps says everything is fine now because it used to be worse:
https://x.com/niawag1/status/1724107152241865133?t=XlGZeH-9NGxQjsZHbK4EiQ&s=09
I was out in his district on Saturday night and it was a ghost town except for people asking for money. All the bars and restaurants were mostly empty in what used to be a lively strip.
This is so unacceptable. Also, he claims on his Twitter/X that people were getting shot in his alley and on his street 20 years ago. Doesn't he represent a very exclusive enclave in Woodley Park? It doesn't sound even remotely believable.
Anonymous
11/13/2023 13:14
Subject: Re:Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So MPD should overcommit resources even more to the neurotic pearl clutchers of upper NW dc rather than to the areas that are actually dangerous and have lots and lots of crime because someone's grandma happened to be in a cvs when some people shoplifter or they read about an argument between two people that turned violent in an apartment complex they don't live in on their local listserv?
This is outright dishonesty. No one who wants more resources committed to fighting crime in Ward 3 wants fewer resources for fighting crime in Ward 7 and 8. We know clearly who are the people who are against resources going to Wards 7 and 8 - defund the police folk who have consistently argued that those Wards are overpoliced and "targeted." The ACLU just came out to oppose an expansion of the camera program where 42% of the cameras were in Wards 7 and 8. These were the same arguments that shut-down the efforts to prosecute gun violations federally, and the same arguments the Council used when it made the effort to cut police funding in 2020.
This is the completely dishonest two-step defund types do. Say we need fewer enforcement resources going to Wards 7 and 8 because focusing them is racist targeting. Then turn around and say we need to take resources away from Ward 3 because it's unfair that 7 and 8 don't have more enforcement resources going to them.
It starts with the ANCs and works it ay up to the Councilman. These are policy choices. Neighbors, we don’t have to continue to
live in fear if we elect some reasonable people. In the next ANC election don’t forget the ANC 3C (Cleveland Park) was at the forefront of the defund the police movement.
https://anc3c.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ANC3C-Resolution-2021-012-in-Support-of-Proposals-by-DC-Police-Reform-Commission-Report-1.pdf
The resolution is signed by Beau Finley, who ran unsuccessfully against Frumin in the DC Council primary. Finley claimed to be a progressive but had a Trumper as his campaign spokesman.
Well he, and the rest of the ANC, should explain to the many people who worship in ANC 3C which exact policies of BLM they “affirm.” Stunning.
Anonymous
11/13/2023 13:02
Subject: Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Don't worry, a Cleveland Park ANC reps says everything is fine now because it used to be worse:
https://x.com/niawag1/status/1724107152241865133?t=XlGZeH-9NGxQjsZHbK4EiQ&s=09
I was out in his district on Saturday night and it was a ghost town except for people asking for money. All the bars and restaurants were mostly empty in what used to be a lively strip.
https://x.com/niawag1/status/1724107152241865133?t=XlGZeH-9NGxQjsZHbK4EiQ&s=09
I was out in his district on Saturday night and it was a ghost town except for people asking for money. All the bars and restaurants were mostly empty in what used to be a lively strip.
Anonymous
11/13/2023 12:10
Subject: Re:Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So MPD should overcommit resources even more to the neurotic pearl clutchers of upper NW dc rather than to the areas that are actually dangerous and have lots and lots of crime because someone's grandma happened to be in a cvs when some people shoplifter or they read about an argument between two people that turned violent in an apartment complex they don't live in on their local listserv?
This is outright dishonesty. No one who wants more resources committed to fighting crime in Ward 3 wants fewer resources for fighting crime in Ward 7 and 8. We know clearly who are the people who are against resources going to Wards 7 and 8 - defund the police folk who have consistently argued that those Wards are overpoliced and "targeted." The ACLU just came out to oppose an expansion of the camera program where 42% of the cameras were in Wards 7 and 8. These were the same arguments that shut-down the efforts to prosecute gun violations federally, and the same arguments the Council used when it made the effort to cut police funding in 2020.
This is the completely dishonest two-step defund types do. Say we need fewer enforcement resources going to Wards 7 and 8 because focusing them is racist targeting. Then turn around and say we need to take resources away from Ward 3 because it's unfair that 7 and 8 don't have more enforcement resources going to them.
It starts with the ANCs and works it ay up to the Councilman. These are policy choices. Neighbors, we don’t have to continue to
live in fear if we elect some reasonable people. In the next ANC election don’t forget the ANC 3C (Cleveland Park) was at the forefront of the defund the police movement.
https://anc3c.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ANC3C-Resolution-2021-012-in-Support-of-Proposals-by-DC-Police-Reform-Commission-Report-1.pdf
Days after Pinto's Emergency Bill passed they hosted DC Justice Lab at a meeting.
Anonymous
11/13/2023 11:33
Subject: Re:Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So MPD should overcommit resources even more to the neurotic pearl clutchers of upper NW dc rather than to the areas that are actually dangerous and have lots and lots of crime because someone's grandma happened to be in a cvs when some people shoplifter or they read about an argument between two people that turned violent in an apartment complex they don't live in on their local listserv?
This is outright dishonesty. No one who wants more resources committed to fighting crime in Ward 3 wants fewer resources for fighting crime in Ward 7 and 8. We know clearly who are the people who are against resources going to Wards 7 and 8 - defund the police folk who have consistently argued that those Wards are overpoliced and "targeted." The ACLU just came out to oppose an expansion of the camera program where 42% of the cameras were in Wards 7 and 8. These were the same arguments that shut-down the efforts to prosecute gun violations federally, and the same arguments the Council used when it made the effort to cut police funding in 2020.
This is the completely dishonest two-step defund types do. Say we need fewer enforcement resources going to Wards 7 and 8 because focusing them is racist targeting. Then turn around and say we need to take resources away from Ward 3 because it's unfair that 7 and 8 don't have more enforcement resources going to them.
It starts with the ANCs and works it ay up to the Councilman. These are policy choices. Neighbors, we don’t have to continue to
live in fear if we elect some reasonable people. In the next ANC election don’t forget the ANC 3C (Cleveland Park) was at the forefront of the defund the police movement.
https://anc3c.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ANC3C-Resolution-2021-012-in-Support-of-Proposals-by-DC-Police-Reform-Commission-Report-1.pdf
Cannot be overstated that you’re getting exactly why you voted for. Uncontrolled crime is apparently what people want in DC.
The residents of Cleveland Park should ask the Commission to renounce this misguided Resolution. It sure didn’t age well.
Anonymous
11/13/2023 11:20
Subject: Re:Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So MPD should overcommit resources even more to the neurotic pearl clutchers of upper NW dc rather than to the areas that are actually dangerous and have lots and lots of crime because someone's grandma happened to be in a cvs when some people shoplifter or they read about an argument between two people that turned violent in an apartment complex they don't live in on their local listserv?
This is outright dishonesty. No one who wants more resources committed to fighting crime in Ward 3 wants fewer resources for fighting crime in Ward 7 and 8. We know clearly who are the people who are against resources going to Wards 7 and 8 - defund the police folk who have consistently argued that those Wards are overpoliced and "targeted." The ACLU just came out to oppose an expansion of the camera program where 42% of the cameras were in Wards 7 and 8. These were the same arguments that shut-down the efforts to prosecute gun violations federally, and the same arguments the Council used when it made the effort to cut police funding in 2020.
This is the completely dishonest two-step defund types do. Say we need fewer enforcement resources going to Wards 7 and 8 because focusing them is racist targeting. Then turn around and say we need to take resources away from Ward 3 because it's unfair that 7 and 8 don't have more enforcement resources going to them.
It starts with the ANCs and works it ay up to the Councilman. These are policy choices. Neighbors, we don’t have to continue to
live in fear if we elect some reasonable people. In the next ANC election don’t forget the ANC 3C (Cleveland Park) was at the forefront of the defund the police movement.
https://anc3c.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ANC3C-Resolution-2021-012-in-Support-of-Proposals-by-DC-Police-Reform-Commission-Report-1.pdf
The resolution is signed by Beau Finley, who ran unsuccessfully against Frumin in the DC Council primary. Finley claimed to be a progressive but had a Trumper as his campaign spokesman.
Anonymous
11/13/2023 08:54
Subject: Re:Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So MPD should overcommit resources even more to the neurotic pearl clutchers of upper NW dc rather than to the areas that are actually dangerous and have lots and lots of crime because someone's grandma happened to be in a cvs when some people shoplifter or they read about an argument between two people that turned violent in an apartment complex they don't live in on their local listserv?
This is outright dishonesty. No one who wants more resources committed to fighting crime in Ward 3 wants fewer resources for fighting crime in Ward 7 and 8. We know clearly who are the people who are against resources going to Wards 7 and 8 - defund the police folk who have consistently argued that those Wards are overpoliced and "targeted." The ACLU just came out to oppose an expansion of the camera program where 42% of the cameras were in Wards 7 and 8. These were the same arguments that shut-down the efforts to prosecute gun violations federally, and the same arguments the Council used when it made the effort to cut police funding in 2020.
This is the completely dishonest two-step defund types do. Say we need fewer enforcement resources going to Wards 7 and 8 because focusing them is racist targeting. Then turn around and say we need to take resources away from Ward 3 because it's unfair that 7 and 8 don't have more enforcement resources going to them.
It starts with the ANCs and works it ay up to the Councilman. These are policy choices. Neighbors, we don’t have to continue to
live in fear if we elect some reasonable people. In the next ANC election don’t forget the ANC 3C (Cleveland Park) was at the forefront of the defund the police movement.
https://anc3c.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ANC3C-Resolution-2021-012-in-Support-of-Proposals-by-DC-Police-Reform-Commission-Report-1.pdf
Cannot be overstated that you’re getting exactly why you voted for. Uncontrolled crime is apparently what people want in DC.
Anonymous
11/13/2023 07:24
Subject: Re:Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So MPD should overcommit resources even more to the neurotic pearl clutchers of upper NW dc rather than to the areas that are actually dangerous and have lots and lots of crime because someone's grandma happened to be in a cvs when some people shoplifter or they read about an argument between two people that turned violent in an apartment complex they don't live in on their local listserv?
This is outright dishonesty. No one who wants more resources committed to fighting crime in Ward 3 wants fewer resources for fighting crime in Ward 7 and 8. We know clearly who are the people who are against resources going to Wards 7 and 8 - defund the police folk who have consistently argued that those Wards are overpoliced and "targeted." The ACLU just came out to oppose an expansion of the camera program where 42% of the cameras were in Wards 7 and 8. These were the same arguments that shut-down the efforts to prosecute gun violations federally, and the same arguments the Council used when it made the effort to cut police funding in 2020.
This is the completely dishonest two-step defund types do. Say we need fewer enforcement resources going to Wards 7 and 8 because focusing them is racist targeting. Then turn around and say we need to take resources away from Ward 3 because it's unfair that 7 and 8 don't have more enforcement resources going to them.
It starts with the ANCs and works it ay up to the Councilman. These are policy choices. Neighbors, we don’t have to continue to
live in fear if we elect some reasonable people. In the next ANC election don’t forget the ANC 3C (Cleveland Park) was at the forefront of the defund the police movement.
https://anc3c.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ANC3C-Resolution-2021-012-in-Support-of-Proposals-by-DC-Police-Reform-Commission-Report-1.pdf
Anonymous
11/13/2023 07:11
Subject: Re:Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Anonymous wrote:So MPD should overcommit resources even more to the neurotic pearl clutchers of upper NW dc rather than to the areas that are actually dangerous and have lots and lots of crime because someone's grandma happened to be in a cvs when some people shoplifter or they read about an argument between two people that turned violent in an apartment complex they don't live in on their local listserv?
This is outright dishonesty. No one who wants more resources committed to fighting crime in Ward 3 wants fewer resources for fighting crime in Ward 7 and 8. We know clearly who are the people who are against resources going to Wards 7 and 8 - defund the police folk who have consistently argued that those Wards are overpoliced and "targeted." The ACLU just came out to oppose an expansion of the camera program where 42% of the cameras were in Wards 7 and 8. These were the same arguments that shut-down the efforts to prosecute gun violations federally, and the same arguments the Council used when it made the effort to cut police funding in 2020.
This is the completely dishonest two-step defund types do. Say we need fewer enforcement resources going to Wards 7 and 8 because focusing them is racist targeting. Then turn around and say we need to take resources away from Ward 3 because it's unfair that 7 and 8 don't have more enforcement resources going to them.
Anonymous
11/12/2023 17:44
Subject: Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Anonymous wrote:PP - meant to post this link https://twitter.com/upadhyaynilansh/status/1723675694771691792?s=46
This is fairly terrifying. Keep financial services apps on your phone at your peril.
Anonymous
11/12/2023 15:27
Subject: Re:Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Careful, you relied on your personal opinion of this (as I did above), now those hysterical ones will come in and call you a delicate snowflake and diminish your personal experience because it doesn't jive with their paranoid worldview!
Most people aren't gunned down by mass shooters.
Most people aren't going hungry.
Most people have housing they can live in.
Most people aren't poor.
Most people don't bike to work.
Most people don't have special needs kids.
I suppose there's a lot of stuff we can stop spending time and money on if our criteria is "does this happen to the majority of people?"
Was there a point buried in your word salad?
Not PP, but also not at all surprised you don't grasp it.
So MPD should overcommit resources even more to the neurotic pearl clutchers of upper NW dc rather than to the areas that are actually dangerous and have lots and lots of crime because someone's grandma happened to be in a cvs when some people shoplifter or they read about an argument between two people that turned violent in an apartment complex they don't live in on their local listserv?
NP here. Yes, MPD should or it will lose its tax base because the "pearl clutchers" will leave. And I don't know what's not dangerous about attempted murder (gunshot), stabbing, assault, armed carjacking, etc. Beyond that, having a reduced crime rate would ease the strain on MPD. People moved to Ward 3 because it's a safe place to live. If it can't live up to that, people will leave.
Anonymous
11/12/2023 15:21
Subject: Re:Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Careful, you relied on your personal opinion of this (as I did above), now those hysterical ones will come in and call you a delicate snowflake and diminish your personal experience because it doesn't jive with their paranoid worldview!
Most people aren't gunned down by mass shooters.
Most people aren't going hungry.
Most people have housing they can live in.
Most people aren't poor.
Most people don't bike to work.
Most people don't have special needs kids.
I suppose there's a lot of stuff we can stop spending time and money on if our criteria is "does this happen to the majority of people?"
Was there a point buried in your word salad?
NP here. The poster is pretty clear.