Anonymous
12/15/2022 10:40
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: Only one friend got in who had lower scores but first time college family.
Increasing first gen students at the school is an institutional priority for VT, so it very well could have tipped the balance here.
(NP)
Absolutely. They have a stated goal of 40% URM and first generation.
+1. The President has said this several times. Google it
The same people keep repeating this, ad nauseum. We know. However, you're forgetting about the other 60+% of students who are accepted. Stop making excuses.
No excuses. This is a fact. The president of them only polytechnic university in the state wants 40 percent URM and first generation. The population of the state is not 40 percent URM. That is called social engineering. Many question if that is the proper role of the only public polytechnic. Read Chrinicke if Higher Education before casting aspirations. This is called a newsworthy issue so open to decays. Stop shutting down those who actually know what is going on.
Well on average about 1/3 of US students applying to college are first generation, and about 35% of high school aged students in Virginia are URM, though there are overlap of some of those groups, there are a significant portion of white first generation students -- esp from rural areas, so 40% is less than reality not above it.
Anonymous
12/15/2022 09:18
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
Any explanation why, when adding the sub scores does not equal the state "T"total score? Check out VT stats for SATs -- none of the Totals equals M+V+W (0).
Interesting. It does add up for some--VSU, W&M, VCU just at a glance.
Is there better source data for Va Tech — to figure out which are the right SAT numbers (my kid is right on the edge, so I’m very curious about these numbers).
No. SCHEV is an amazing resource for VA parents - both public and private. No other state has anything similar. Don't listen to the naysayers.
This is great data. But, at least for VA Tech, the SAT scores reported do not equal Verbal + Math. Something does not add up. Literally. That’s why the data is suspect.
It doesn't add up for UVA either.
They won't necessarily add up. It is 3 different measurements: Verbal, math, and overall. If you take the kids that are above the 50th percentile in math, they won't be the same as those above 50th percentile in verbal.
Yup, plus the kid who blew the door off the math or verbal is not always going to do equally as well on the other section.
Anonymous
12/15/2022 01:41
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
So for most of the schools, about half did not submit an SAT or ACT score? Class of 22 had plenty of opportunity to take one, unlike the class of 21. Not submitting a test score shows they either took the test but did poorly, or knew they would do poorly so didn't even want to submit it.
Most are well below half for SAT.
Anonymous
12/15/2022 01:34
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
Any explanation why, when adding the sub scores does not equal the state "T"total score? Check out VT stats for SATs -- none of the Totals equals M+V+W (0).
Interesting. It does add up for some--VSU, W&M, VCU just at a glance.
Is there better source data for Va Tech — to figure out which are the right SAT numbers (my kid is right on the edge, so I’m very curious about these numbers).
No. SCHEV is an amazing resource for VA parents - both public and private. No other state has anything similar. Don't listen to the naysayers.
This is great data. But, at least for VA Tech, the SAT scores reported do not equal Verbal + Math. Something does not add up. Literally. That’s why the data is suspect.
I think the data is correct. They don't have to add up with the way they are calculated.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 23:55
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
Any explanation why, when adding the sub scores does not equal the state "T"total score? Check out VT stats for SATs -- none of the Totals equals M+V+W (0).
Interesting. It does add up for some--VSU, W&M, VCU just at a glance.
Is there better source data for Va Tech — to figure out which are the right SAT numbers (my kid is right on the edge, so I’m very curious about these numbers).
No. SCHEV is an amazing resource for VA parents - both public and private. No other state has anything similar. Don't listen to the naysayers.
This is great data. But, at least for VA Tech, the SAT scores reported do not equal Verbal + Math. Something does not add up. Literally. That’s why the data is suspect.
It doesn't add up for UVA either.
They won't necessarily add up. It is 3 different measurements: Verbal, math, and overall. If you take the kids that are above the 50th percentile in math, they won't be the same as those above 50th percentile in verbal.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 23:19
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
Any explanation why, when adding the sub scores does not equal the state "T"total score? Check out VT stats for SATs -- none of the Totals equals M+V+W (0).
Interesting. It does add up for some--VSU, W&M, VCU just at a glance.
Is there better source data for Va Tech — to figure out which are the right SAT numbers (my kid is right on the edge, so I’m very curious about these numbers).
No. SCHEV is an amazing resource for VA parents - both public and private. No other state has anything similar. Don't listen to the naysayers.
SCHEV plus Naviance plus high school counselor records puts you ahead of any other state.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 23:16
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
Any explanation why, when adding the sub scores does not equal the state "T"total score? Check out VT stats for SATs -- none of the Totals equals M+V+W (0).
Interesting. It does add up for some--VSU, W&M, VCU just at a glance.
Is there better source data for Va Tech — to figure out which are the right SAT numbers (my kid is right on the edge, so I’m very curious about these numbers).
No. SCHEV is an amazing resource for VA parents - both public and private. No other state has anything similar. Don't listen to the naysayers.
This is great data. But, at least for VA Tech, the SAT scores reported do not equal Verbal + Math. Something does not add up. Literally. That’s why the data is suspect.
It doesn't add up for UVA either.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 23:11
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
Any explanation why, when adding the sub scores does not equal the state "T"total score? Check out VT stats for SATs -- none of the Totals equals M+V+W (0).
Interesting. It does add up for some--VSU, W&M, VCU just at a glance.
Is there better source data for Va Tech — to figure out which are the right SAT numbers (my kid is right on the edge, so I’m very curious about these numbers).
No. SCHEV is an amazing resource for VA parents - both public and private. No other state has anything similar. Don't listen to the naysayers.
This is great data. But, at least for VA Tech, the SAT scores reported do not equal Verbal + Math. Something does not add up. Literally. That’s why the data is suspect.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 22:06
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
Any explanation why, when adding the sub scores does not equal the state "T"total score? Check out VT stats for SATs -- none of the Totals equals M+V+W (0).
Interesting. It does add up for some--VSU, W&M, VCU just at a glance.
Is there better source data for Va Tech — to figure out which are the right SAT numbers (my kid is right on the edge, so I’m very curious about these numbers).
No. SCHEV is an amazing resource for VA parents - both public and private. No other state has anything similar. Don't listen to the naysayers.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 22:04
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
So for most of the schools, about half did not submit an SAT or ACT score? Class of 22 had plenty of opportunity to take one, unlike the class of 21. Not submitting a test score shows they either took the test but did poorly, or knew they would do poorly so didn't even want to submit it.
Same with UVA and W&M. That's called test optional.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 22:01
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is an objective fact that some majors are more selective than others, something a kid and their parents should be aware of. Basic math. The “evidence” is not lacking. Numbers are numbers, and they show what they show. Gather as much information as you can about your high school and the program you want. And you can have a decent idea of what your chances are. There are no guarantees, but you can have a decent idea of the odds. Going into major life decisions blind of information is a strategy I guess but not one I would recommend. Throwing up your hands after a decision doesn’t go your way and chalking it up to the universe is also a strategy I guess. Understanding probability would probably be more helpful. Sometimes an admission decision was a bad beat, knowing that is helpful to many people, and it isn’t coping. It is an objective acceptance of reality and a representation of the truth.
Clueless parent of jr here. If I wanted to deep dive into Va Tech, majors, chances of admission, etc etc, data and any good chat level (CC?), could you recommend a couple useful sources? (DS is VA resident, at an independent school, with about a 4.0 in "normal" rigorous schedule (will have AP Calc AB senior yr, for example) and SATs currently looking weak -- may eventually hover around/below 1400). Reading tea leaves now, but feeling Va Tech would be his only/best fit VA school. Thanks.
Are you first hen or URM? It will help per recent comments of VT’s President
no - plain vanilla son of grad-level educated parents
DP. Don't worry. Plenty of "plain vanilla" kids of highly educated parents get in, if they have the stats. The PP is fixated and has a chip on her shoulder.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 21:41
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
Any explanation why, when adding the sub scores does not equal the state "T"total score? Check out VT stats for SATs -- none of the Totals equals M+V+W (0).
Interesting. It does add up for some--VSU, W&M, VCU just at a glance.
Is there better source data for Va Tech — to figure out which are the right SAT numbers (my kid is right on the edge, so I’m very curious about these numbers).
Anonymous
12/14/2022 15:09
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
Any explanation why, when adding the sub scores does not equal the state "T"total score? Check out VT stats for SATs -- none of the Totals equals M+V+W (0).
Interesting. It does add up for some--VSU, W&M, VCU just at a glance.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 12:43
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Numbers don't lie and are a lot more informative than whatever opinions people have on this board:
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
Any explanation why, when adding the sub scores does not equal the state "T"total score? Check out VT stats for SATs -- none of the Totals equals M+V+W (0).
Anonymous
12/14/2022 12:41
Subject: Re:VA Tech ED - results
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