Anonymous wrote:Dalton in NYC

Collegiate and Brearly have always had the highest percentage of kids going to Ivies

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Anonymous wrote:TJ sends 25% of its kids (over 100) to T20 schools each year. So save your cash and try to get your kid into the free public that outdoes almost every school on that list. Plus easy admits to UVA, Tech and free rides at Pitt, Purdue, UIUC.

To do that, one would have to live in Virginia.

No thanks.

The community and culture is not appealing. We like a private school and the facilities that go along with it. They are two different worlds and private prepares kids socially and professionally in ways that publics do not.

What are some of the ways private schools prepare kids socially and professionally in ways that publics do not?

It is part of the community and feel of the school - how kids are expected to behave and interact. Small classes - smaller class discussions. One on one small meetings with teachers and advisors. A certain code of conduct is expected and if they don’t know it when they come they learn it. The ones that don’t are not as successful. Parents of public kids can also teach this at home but it is a very distinct difference.

Anonymous wrote:NP - at least RM has about 450 per class, but you’re really only counting the 125 IB kids (really 100, sorry but the JW auto-admits don’t generally count) who are competitive for top colleges. Of these 100, you truly have 50 who have a real shot at an Ivy/other top school.

So RM takes the pick of the litter of 8th graders in a county with a million residents and four years later only half of them have a real shot at a top school? Forget private schools, that poor performance is scandalous.

I guess the school does matter.

Anonymous wrote:NP - at least RM has about 450 per class, but you’re really only counting the 125 IB kids (really 100, sorry but the JW auto-admits don’t generally count) who are competitive for top colleges. Of these 100, you truly have 50 who have a real shot at an Ivy/other top school.

Why don’t you just reduce it to the kids from RM who actually get accepted and then the per capita percentage will be 100%.

NP - at least RM has about 450 per class, but you’re really only counting the 125 IB kids (really 100, sorry but the JW auto-admits don’t generally count) who are competitive for top colleges. Of these 100, you truly have 50 who have a real shot at an Ivy/other top school.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone likes to compare where the tops of the classes at the various privates end up for college, but I often think its much more instructive to try to figure out where the middles and the bottoms of each class end up. At any one of the privates in this area admission to top schools is influenced, by legacy, athletics and other hooks. But where the kid with the 3.0 or below ends up is perhaps much more indicative of the reputation of the school with various colleges. Just a thought.

I agree 100%.
Most of the class at these schools will have worked hard for a 2.5 to 3.5.
Where do they go to college? That is the real strength of a school.

Last time I looked at the matriculations for STA, about 45-50% of the kids went to top-25 ranked schools. Not sure what it was last year, but probably comparable.

The same. Lots of Ivys, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, CalBerk, Pomona, academies, Vandy, and then a bunch to Colby, Bowdoin, BC, William and Mary and the like. Something like 60 out of 75 went to solid schools this past year.

The comparison should be between the private school and the top 10% of the public school. Sidwell, STA, NCS would all fare better than the local publics. If you take schools like Landon, Holton, Potomac and compare their graduating class to the top 10% at RM, BCC, McLean and Langley, I’m not sure there would be much difference. Maybe some more kids who go to UVA, W&M and VT from VA schools vs similarly ranked private colleges from the private schools.

Do public schools here have 800 students in a grade? Why just the top 10% then?

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone likes to compare where the tops of the classes at the various privates end up for college, but I often think its much more instructive to try to figure out where the middles and the bottoms of each class end up. At any one of the privates in this area admission to top schools is influenced, by legacy, athletics and other hooks. But where the kid with the 3.0 or below ends up is perhaps much more indicative of the reputation of the school with various colleges. Just a thought.

I agree 100%.
Most of the class at these schools will have worked hard for a 2.5 to 3.5.
Where do they go to college? That is the real strength of a school.

Last time I looked at the matriculations for STA, about 45-50% of the kids went to top-25 ranked schools. Not sure what it was last year, but probably comparable.

The same. Lots of Ivys, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt, CalBerk, Pomona, academies, Vandy, and then a bunch to Colby, Bowdoin, BC, William and Mary and the like. Something like 60 out of 75 went to solid schools this past year.

The comparison should be between the private school and the top 10% of the public school. Sidwell, STA, NCS would all fare better than the local publics. If you take schools like Landon, Holton, Potomac and compare their graduating class to the top 10% at RM, BCC, McLean and Langley, I’m not sure there would be much difference. Maybe some more kids who go to UVA, W&M and VT from VA schools vs similarly ranked private colleges from the private schools.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ sends 25% of its kids (over 100) to T20 schools each year. So save your cash and try to get your kid into the free public that outdoes almost every school on that list. Plus easy admits to UVA, Tech and free rides at Pitt, Purdue, UIUC.

To do that, one would have to live in Virginia.

No thanks.

The community and culture is not appealing. We like a private school and the facilities that go along with it. They are two different worlds and private prepares kids socially and professionally in ways that publics do not.

What are some of the ways private schools prepare kids socially and professionally in ways that publics do not?

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Anonymous wrote:No "feeder" schools for Ivies!

Right - just schools that consistently send an insanely higher percentage of their graduates to Ivies than every other high school, year after year.

Sure...but you also have to control for the SES of the parents and stuff like legacies and recruited athletes.

All things being equal, your kiddo might get an extra boost on admissions because the quality of education they received from a top notch private helped them achieve higher test scores, better ECs, etc. But it's naive to simply look at the list of college acceptances from a private and assume that your kid will have a better shot merely by being there.

Kiddo? My hubby used to say kiddo when I was preggers but that was a long time ago.

This is such a sad thread. WTF is wrong with you?

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Anonymous wrote:No "feeder" schools for Ivies!

Right - just schools that consistently send an insanely higher percentage of their graduates to Ivies than every other high school, year after year.

Sure...but you also have to control for the SES of the parents and stuff like legacies and recruited athletes.

All things being equal, your kiddo might get an extra boost on admissions because the quality of education they received from a top notch private helped them achieve higher test scores, better ECs, etc. But it's naive to simply look at the list of college acceptances from a private and assume that your kid will have a better shot merely by being there.

Is it more naive to look at percentages of Ivy admits from schools which is, like, actual math and factual information that v can be confirmed or to rely instead on “control[ling]…for stuff like legacies and recruited athletes.” Did STA and Sidwell all of a sudden become athletic powerhouses that send hordes of kids to Ivy League schools without me being aware? Are there really that many more legacy Ivy kids at GDS and NCS than Walt Whitman, which is 4 times the size of these schools? These lazy tropes are so exhausting.

Yeah, there probably are a bunch more legacy admits from those schools that Walt Whitman.
What are the stats from these schools?
- How do the #s for recruited athletes compare?
- How do the #s for legacy admits compare?
- Of the URM population of the schools, what is the demographic of the parents?

I personally am happier having DCs at a DC private than Walt Whitman - but it's not because I have advanced expectation either of them will get into Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:No "feeder" schools for Ivies!

Right - just schools that consistently send an insanely higher percentage of their graduates to Ivies than every other high school, year after year.

Sure...but you also have to control for the SES of the parents and stuff like legacies and recruited athletes.

All things being equal, your kiddo might get an extra boost on admissions because the quality of education they received from a top notch private helped them achieve higher test scores, better ECs, etc. But it's naive to simply look at the list of college acceptances from a private and assume that your kid will have a better shot merely by being there.

Is it more naive to look at percentages of Ivy admits from schools which is, like, actual math and factual information that v can be confirmed or to rely instead on “control[ling]…for stuff like legacies and recruited athletes.” Did STA and Sidwell all of a sudden become athletic powerhouses that send hordes of kids to Ivy League schools without me being aware? Are there really that many more legacy Ivy kids at GDS and NCS than Walt Whitman, which is 4 times the size of these schools? These lazy tropes are so exhausting.

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Anonymous wrote:No "feeder" schools for Ivies!

Right - just schools that consistently send an insanely higher percentage of their graduates to Ivies than every other high school, year after year.

Sure...but you also have to control for the SES of the parents and stuff like legacies and recruited athletes.

All things being equal, your kiddo might get an extra boost on admissions because the quality of education they received from a top notch private helped them achieve higher test scores, better ECs, etc. But it's naive to simply look at the list of college acceptances from a private and assume that your kid will have a better shot merely by being there.

Anonymous wrote:No "feeder" schools for Ivies!

Right - just schools that consistently send an insanely higher percentage of their graduates to Ivies than every other high school, year after year.

No "feeder" schools for Ivies!