Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 20:00     Subject: Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

No cyclists out tonight. Wonder why? LOL.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 19:33     Subject: Re:Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

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Anonymous wrote:You should let the police know that the individual circumstances in any given accident don't matter because it's always the driver's fault so there's no need for them to investigate what happened.


The driver is legally responsible for the safe operation of his or her car. Just because police don't enforce it doesn't mean it's any less true.

A vehicle operator is legally responsible for the safe operation of their vehicle. As we keep being reminded, bicycles are legally considered vehicles. Therefore, cyclists are legally responsible for the safe operation of their bicycles. Just because the police don’t enforce it doesn’t mean it’s any less true.


A dead cyclist might be right, but they are still dead


So is a dead driver.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 15:24     Subject: Re:Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You should let the police know that the individual circumstances in any given accident don't matter because it's always the driver's fault so there's no need for them to investigate what happened.


The driver is legally responsible for the safe operation of his or her car. Just because police don't enforce it doesn't mean it's any less true.

A vehicle operator is legally responsible for the safe operation of their vehicle. As we keep being reminded, bicycles are legally considered vehicles. Therefore, cyclists are legally responsible for the safe operation of their bicycles. Just because the police don’t enforce it doesn’t mean it’s any less true.


A dead cyclist might be right, but they are still dead
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 09:33     Subject: Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

I almost hit a bicyclist yesterday while trying to parallel park - no light, small reflectors, dark clothes AND riding the WRONG WAY in the bike lane - came right up to my car in the bike lane as I was focusing on making sure no one was behind me.

We build bike lanes and some people STILL have a death wish
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 09:13     Subject: Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Don't bike after dark?

Drive more carefully.


I am mostly a biker and a walker, and as a result I am an extremely cautious driver.

It’s next to impossible to see a biker at night.

Don’t be an idiot.


A lot of people do it seeing normal lights/reflectors. If you have a hard time seeing lights and reflectors then please get your eyes checked to see if you have a condition. It's not normal.

I'm not taking about people who have no lights or reflectors.

WABA recommends using as much reflective material as possible when cycling at night in order to increase visibility beyond what is mandated by law, including reflective vests, wheel reflectors, tires with reflective strips, reflective ankle band, backpacks, stickers and decals. Not sure why you don’t want to take professional safety advice.


Do you need me to find you a link about driving after dark if you're visually impaired? I'm quite sure it's not recommended and may even be prohibited. Not sure why you don't want to take professional safety advice.


I am an optometrist. You need to stop. Most people with good vision cannot see a dark figure against a dark background at night, which is the scenario being described over and over again in this thread.


Then they shouldn't be driving after dark. Driving is inherently dangerous, if most people can't do it safely after dark then is it something that people should be doing after dark?
I can't tell if you are trolling, sarcastic or delusional.


It is delusional to think that people who want to operate a two ton machine do so safely?


The streets are quite safe here. Traffic accidents are rare, and it's very, very rare for anyone to die. Traffic fatalities are down 30 percent this year to just 26. Almost ten time as many people were murdered last year.

Wearing a reflective vest at night is an easy, inexpensive thing people can immediately do to make the streets even more safe.



Reflective vests cost $10. Amazon will bring you one today.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 06:12     Subject: Re:Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

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Anonymous wrote:Just this evening I saw a cyclist wearing his black work suit while speeding past a stop sign. “Idaho stop” I guess. I’m a very careful driver but it infuriates me when cyclists don’t take easy yet important steps to improve visibility and safety. Everyone should do their part. Why is that so hard for some cyclists to understand?


Just this evening I saw a driver speeding and using their phone while driving. "Limits are for losers" I guess. I'm a very careful bicyclist but it infuriates me when drivers don't take easy yet important steps to improve safety. Everyone should do their part. Why is that so hard for some drivers to understand?


You're just proving my point. There are things both drivers and cyclists can do. Why are you so against doing your part?


I don't get it, I'm all for lights and reflective material. We can donate to WABA to expand that fall campaign to give out lights - is that what you're looking for?
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 22:04     Subject: Re:Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just this evening I saw a cyclist wearing his black work suit while speeding past a stop sign. “Idaho stop” I guess. I’m a very careful driver but it infuriates me when cyclists don’t take easy yet important steps to improve visibility and safety. Everyone should do their part. Why is that so hard for some cyclists to understand?


Just this evening I saw a driver speeding and using their phone while driving. "Limits are for losers" I guess. I'm a very careful bicyclist but it infuriates me when drivers don't take easy yet important steps to improve safety. Everyone should do their part. Why is that so hard for some drivers to understand?


You're just proving my point. There are things both drivers and cyclists can do. Why are you so against doing your part?


+1. You use this line of reasoning throughout this post and it’s really ineffective and unproductive. I am a cyclist and runner posted previously. I am a huge public safety advocate and speak at city meetings regularly. I’ve been on working groups for my city regarding safety improvements. Your arguments are disingenuous and do little to further safety issues for cyclists and pedestrians.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 21:24     Subject: Re:Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just this evening I saw a cyclist wearing his black work suit while speeding past a stop sign. “Idaho stop” I guess. I’m a very careful driver but it infuriates me when cyclists don’t take easy yet important steps to improve visibility and safety. Everyone should do their part. Why is that so hard for some cyclists to understand?


Just this evening I saw a driver speeding and using their phone while driving. "Limits are for losers" I guess. I'm a very careful bicyclist but it infuriates me when drivers don't take easy yet important steps to improve safety. Everyone should do their part. Why is that so hard for some drivers to understand?


You're just proving my point. There are things both drivers and cyclists can do. Why are you so against doing your part?
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 20:10     Subject: Re:Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just this evening I saw a cyclist wearing his black work suit while speeding past a stop sign. “Idaho stop” I guess. I’m a very careful driver but it infuriates me when cyclists don’t take easy yet important steps to improve visibility and safety. Everyone should do their part. Why is that so hard for some cyclists to understand?



Cyclists are adamantly opposed to any requirements whatsoever being imposed on them. Rules are for other people.


Drivers are adamantly opposed to speed governor bring installed on their cars. Rules are for other people.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 20:10     Subject: Re:Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

Anonymous wrote:Just this evening I saw a cyclist wearing his black work suit while speeding past a stop sign. “Idaho stop” I guess. I’m a very careful driver but it infuriates me when cyclists don’t take easy yet important steps to improve visibility and safety. Everyone should do their part. Why is that so hard for some cyclists to understand?


Just this evening I saw a driver speeding and using their phone while driving. "Limits are for losers" I guess. I'm a very careful bicyclist but it infuriates me when drivers don't take easy yet important steps to improve safety. Everyone should do their part. Why is that so hard for some drivers to understand?
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 18:39     Subject: Re:Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just this evening I saw a cyclist wearing his black work suit while speeding past a stop sign. “Idaho stop” I guess. I’m a very careful driver but it infuriates me when cyclists don’t take easy yet important steps to improve visibility and safety. Everyone should do their part. Why is that so hard for some cyclists to understand?



Cyclists are adamantly opposed to any requirements whatsoever being imposed on them. Rules are for other people.



Bikers aren't even required to wear helmets, which is pretty incredible.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 18:34     Subject: Re:Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

Anonymous wrote:Just this evening I saw a cyclist wearing his black work suit while speeding past a stop sign. “Idaho stop” I guess. I’m a very careful driver but it infuriates me when cyclists don’t take easy yet important steps to improve visibility and safety. Everyone should do their part. Why is that so hard for some cyclists to understand?



Cyclists are adamantly opposed to any requirements whatsoever being imposed on them. Rules are for other people.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 17:54     Subject: Re:Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

Just this evening I saw a cyclist wearing his black work suit while speeding past a stop sign. “Idaho stop” I guess. I’m a very careful driver but it infuriates me when cyclists don’t take easy yet important steps to improve visibility and safety. Everyone should do their part. Why is that so hard for some cyclists to understand?
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 17:34     Subject: Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this in the politics forum?

Because there is maybe one or two people who just cannot stop talking about their bicycles.


Like the other post where you kept on demanding that people stop talking about their bicycles, this one was started by a driver.

Doubt it. Just a pretext to keep talking about your bicycle. There is a separate section for that.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 17:11     Subject: Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is this in the politics forum?

Because there is maybe one or two people who just cannot stop talking about their bicycles.


Like the other post where you kept on demanding that people stop talking about their bicycles, this one was started by a driver.