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Anonymous wrote:They had so much more freedom than teens today. “Just let me know when you’ll be coming home late” was all that was required of these 15 year olds.

And that's really how it was, too! I was a teen in the 80s and early 90s, and no one had any idea where we were most of the time. We just had to track down a phone somewhere to call home if we were going to miss dinner or be home really late. It seems unthinkable now, but I loved that freedom.

This is parent-dependent. I graduated from HS in '94 and was barely allowed to stay late at school to audition for a school play. I couldn't have anyone over without prior permission and stating how they'd get to our house, how they'd get home, when they'd arrive, when they'd leave and WHAT WE WOULD DO. And "hang out" was a totally unacceptable answer. And if I said "we'll play games we find in the basement" I had to say which ones, and god forbid my friend chose a different game, I got punished for lying. In four years of high school, I think I had friends over 3 or 4 times, and one of those was without prior authorization and my mother was PISSED and I got a huge lecture (a new girl who I'd befriended missed her bus and was crying and didn't know how to get home and in a burst of insanity I said "Just come home with me!" and so when I brought her home, my mother directed me to show her the phone right away to call her parents to pick her up. I did, and then asked if I could give her a snack and my mother graciously said I could give her a cup of water. The girl sat there like WTF is going on in this house?) I legitimately thought this is just how everyone's household was and couldn't figure out why everyone at school was lying about hanging out all the time. I went to exactly one party in HS. My mother bragged to anyone who would listen that she didn't give her kids curfews. Yeah, because we were never allowed to leave in the first place, except for school or work.

I'm sorry. As someone else who graduated in 1994 this hurts to read! What was college like for you?

My parents were pretty clueless about a lot - the main thing they cared about was no drunk driving by me or anyone who drove me. So they always had super loose curfew rules. But I did need to call if I was going to be late.

When I got to college though, it wasn't a shock. I knew how to drink and what to avoid drinking and what to watch out for. I had no interest in drugs because they were around at my high school and it didn't seem novel (didn't do drugs in high school - I will say the DARE program WORKED for me - really scared me!).

The girl who had the strictest parents in my high school was caught in the middle of giving someone a BJ in a car at prom and the whole school found out. It taught me a good lesson not be too strict with my kids.

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Anonymous wrote:No. I was a sucker for Jordan. What can I say…

Same. I don’t buy them “longing for each other” if that was the direction the show was headed. Maybe if he had a glow up?

Oh come on, that last scene as she's driving off with Jordan but staring out the window at Brian - you know those two are meant to be, once he's grown up a little and she's had her fling!

100% Everyone smart knew the direction this would have gone in!!

Anonymous wrote:I’m reattaching now (ugh, it’s the best.) two things I’m thinking about:

1. There was such a vast discrepancy in wealth/stability of home life in Angela’s school. Angela and Sharon are middle/upper middle class, but it seems like they are in a larger, more diverse and urban school district? There also seems to be an inordinate amount of representation of teenagers in unstable homes and/or facing homelessness. Did this seem extreme to anyone?

2. Wow, as a thirty something mom of a boy, do I feel Brian Kraków’s pain. Jordan Catalano still fine as hell though.

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Anonymous wrote:No. I was a sucker for Jordan. What can I say…

Same. I don’t buy them “longing for each other” if that was the direction the show was headed. Maybe if he had a glow up?

Oh come on, that last scene as she's driving off with Jordan but staring out the window at Brian - you know those two are meant to be, once he's grown up a little and she's had her fling!

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Anonymous wrote:The series creator said that, in the second season, Angela would be “destroyed” (actual quote) over the fact that Brian was dating Delia. So, no, he was not a creepy stalker, and the series clearly builds towards his relationship with Angela.

In the video I posted a page ago, the actor who plays Graham talks about how Brian is both adorable and creepy. And he uses the word stalker. So it’s a pretty common impression that character leaves.

he says he, AS A FATHER, vacillates between impression that Brian is an innocent (safe) puppy, and a dangerous stalker. AS A FATHER. who worries about stuff. what you think the father thought about Jordan calatalano?

You need to grow up, sis.

Well that FATHER was having an affair so f him and his opinions

If you can’t differentiate between the character and the actor, I’m not sure what to tell you. Seriously consider stepping away from this show for a bit if it gets you this worked up.

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Anonymous wrote:The series creator said that, in the second season, Angela would be “destroyed” (actual quote) over the fact that Brian was dating Delia. So, no, he was not a creepy stalker, and the series clearly builds towards his relationship with Angela.

In the video I posted a page ago, the actor who plays Graham talks about how Brian is both adorable and creepy. And he uses the word stalker. So it’s a pretty common impression that character leaves.

he says he, AS A FATHER, vacillates between impression that Brian is an innocent (safe) puppy, and a dangerous stalker. AS A FATHER. who worries about stuff. what you think the father thought about Jordan calatalano?

You need to grow up, sis.

Well that FATHER was having an affair so f him and his opinions

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Anonymous wrote:The series creator said that, in the second season, Angela would be “destroyed” (actual quote) over the fact that Brian was dating Delia. So, no, he was not a creepy stalker, and the series clearly builds towards his relationship with Angela.

In the video I posted a page ago, the actor who plays Graham talks about how Brian is both adorable and creepy. And he uses the word stalker. So it’s a pretty common impression that character leaves.

he says he, AS A FATHER, vacillates between impression that Brian is an innocent (safe) puppy, and a dangerous stalker. AS A FATHER. who worries about stuff. what you think the father thought about Jordan calatalano?

You need to grow up, sis.