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Anonymous wrote:Dems just guaranteed that Trump will run and likely win in ‘24. What a shit-show these morons have unleashed.

Seems they’re trying to get him on a technicality that would forbid him from seeking office again. And truthfully, I could see Trump secretly wanting this. He doesn’t have to risk losing, he can just be a lazy glorified martyr for the GOP. Win win.

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Anonymous wrote:So Trump is an idiot savant multi-decade criminal mastermind mafia boss laundering money for foreign countries, selling national secrets, tax fraud, on and on and on… but the most they can get on him is some alleged document theft from his last few hours in the WH?

Got it.

It's a bit embarrassing, isn't it? What's wrong with our local, state, federal LEO? Or federal financial agencies? Anyone?

Almost as if it’s a false premise!

Anonymous wrote:This is a scary development, and I wish more people knew history. We will set a precedent in this country of prosecuting political rivals, and the republicans will do the same thing the next time a republican president is elected. And presidents will know that they can NEVER surrender power, since they’d be prosecuted after leaving office. So that will force them to seize dictatorial powers. This is exactly what happened with Julius Caesar and is how the Roman republic ended. Prosecuting political rivals will put us on the path to a civil war, which will end with one party authoritarian rule.

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Anonymous wrote:So Trump is an idiot savant multi-decade criminal mastermind mafia boss laundering money for foreign countries, selling national secrets, tax fraud, on and on and on… but the most they can get on him is some alleged document theft from his last few hours in the WH?

Got it.

It's a bit embarrassing, isn't it? What's wrong with our local, state, federal LEO? Or federal financial agencies? Anyone?

Anonymous wrote:Dems just guaranteed that Trump will run and likely win in ‘24. What a shit-show these morons have unleashed.

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Anonymous wrote:So Desantis knew about it and did not let Donald know.

Why would DeSantis know about this?

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Anonymous wrote:This is a scary development, and I wish more people knew history. We will set a precedent in this country of prosecuting political rivals, and the republicans will do the same thing the next time a republican president is elected. And presidents will know that they can NEVER surrender power, since they’d be prosecuted after leaving office. So that will force them to seize dictatorial powers. This is exactly what happened with Julius Caesar and is how the Roman republic ended. Prosecuting political rivals will put us on the path to a civil war, which will end with one party authoritarian rule.

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This is a serious question. Are you assuming there is NO probable cause? What if there is probable cause - should they not raid bc he is a former president? What scenarios are you okay and not okay with this raid? Again, serious question.

Correct. They should not prosecute this “crime” precisely because he is a former president and prospective front runner. Because everyone knows that any prosecution is not actually about enforcing the Presidential Records Act, it is instead a pure power play. And power plays are returned in kind by the other side. This is exactly how civil wars start.

Anonymous wrote:Dems just guaranteed that Trump will run and likely win in ‘24. What a shit-show these morons have unleashed.

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Anonymous wrote:Fact:

Suck it the F**K UP. He’s a F**KING criminal. We all know it.

This is what happens.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a scary development, and I wish more people knew history. We will set a precedent in this country of prosecuting political rivals, and the republicans will do the same thing the next time a republican president is elected. And presidents will know that they can NEVER surrender power, since they’d be prosecuted after leaving office. So that will force them to seize dictatorial powers. This is exactly what happened with Julius Caesar and is how the Roman republic ended. Prosecuting political rivals will put us on the path to a civil war, which will end with one party authoritarian rule.

+1

This is a serious question. Are you assuming there is NO probable cause? What if there is probable cause - should they not raid bc he is a former president? What scenarios are you okay and not okay with this raid? Again, serious question.

Correct. They should not prosecute this “crime” precisely because he is a former president and prospective front runner. Because everyone knows that any prosecution is not actually about enforcing the Presidential Records Act, it is instead a pure power play. And power plays are returned in kind by the other side. This is exactly how civil wars start.

So any President can commit any crime whatsoever because investigating them could cause a civil war? That’s a recipe for a banana republic.

Do you think that there, just maybe, is a spectrum of criminal violations and that, if so, that records retention rules might be on the “not so important” end of that spectrum?

Honest question, if the next GOP president decides to audit every prominent Democrat and then charge many of them with tax code violations, would you think that would be ok? Do you see how prosecuting trump could set a precedent that could lead to things like that? Honest question.

Why are you so sure this raid is solely about the Presidential Records Act? That is the reason that has leaked publically, which is convenient for the Justice Dept because that investigation was already known. However, given the dangerous precedent you describe, it’s highly unlikely that Merrick Garland’s Justice Dept would execute a search warrant/ pursue an indictment solely based on the violation of the PRA. It’s possible there were multiple crimes cited on the warrant that haven’t leaked. It’s also possible that the content of the illegally taken documents implicates Trump on more serious charges. We will not know this until indictments come out. The Justice Dept hasn’t had any leaks before taking such dramatic action. They aren’t going to leak about other investigations and tip their hats.

Perhaps the “records retention act” violation was a pretext to grab all the documents they could find, to go on a fishing expedition to find other potential crimes to charge him with.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a scary development, and I wish more people knew history. We will set a precedent in this country of prosecuting political rivals, and the republicans will do the same thing the next time a republican president is elected. And presidents will know that they can NEVER surrender power, since they’d be prosecuted after leaving office. So that will force them to seize dictatorial powers. This is exactly what happened with Julius Caesar and is how the Roman republic ended. Prosecuting political rivals will put us on the path to a civil war, which will end with one party authoritarian rule.

+1

This is a serious question. Are you assuming there is NO probable cause? What if there is probable cause - should they not raid bc he is a former president? What scenarios are you okay and not okay with this raid? Again, serious question.

Correct. They should not prosecute this “crime” precisely because he is a former president and prospective front runner. Because everyone knows that any prosecution is not actually about enforcing the Presidential Records Act, it is instead a pure power play. And power plays are returned in kind by the other side. This is exactly how civil wars start.

So any President can commit any crime whatsoever because investigating them could cause a civil war? That’s a recipe for a banana republic.

Do you think that there, just maybe, is a spectrum of criminal violations and that, if so, that records retention rules might be on the “not so important” end of that spectrum?

Honest question, if the next GOP president decides to audit every prominent Democrat and then charge many of them with tax code violations, would you think that would be ok? Do you see how prosecuting trump could set a precedent that could lead to things like that? Honest question.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really curious about what he stole from the white house. This can't be just like the Clintons taking a couple of tables or what not. I feel like it must be related to national security.

They said it was classified documents.

Maybe TFG was planning to tell us all who really killed JFK! And the FBI has swooped in to take back the docs before Trump can self-publish the truth!

Anonymous wrote:So Trump is an idiot savant multi-decade criminal mastermind mafia boss laundering money for foreign countries, selling national secrets, tax fraud, on and on and on… but the most they can get on him is some alleged document theft from his last few hours in the WH?

Got it.