Anonymous wrote:

While your average college lacrosse player couldn't sniff a D1 college basketball or football team, the average D1 college bball or football player couldn't sniff the academics to get into Duke or Georgetown or Cornell (unless they were basketball players at D or G).

and to compare lacrosse to golf is beyond ridiculous. lacrosse is certainly as athletic as football; difference is there's less violence and injury.

You must be kidding right. Lax pretend "jocks" at Duke, Georgetown or Cornell with brain power. This is laughable. Lucky, the only reason these bros got into aforementtioned schools is the schools do have to field a lacrosse team. If you were a mentally run of the mill high school squash player you'll have a much better chance getting into Harvard than Podunk U. Why? Podunk U doesn't carry a squash team. Prepster, don't get to full of yourself because you play lacrosse at second tier "Ivy" league institutions...even if this rolls you onto Wall or K street in future.

Hey I'm no lax bro. I wish I was - I'd be making much more money than I currently am. it's true that most laxers at Ivies or similar schools couldn't get in without lax. But those schools do have some standards. Ivies have strict recruiting requirements and can't let just anyone in. I believe Duke's average SAT score for basketball recruits is less than 1000 while their SAT score for non football/basketball athletes is about 1250. That's a pretty big difference. Now you could argue that it's very unimpressive for an upper middle class prep school kid to only score 1250, and it is, but it's not Miami football territory.

and to compare lacrosse to golf is beyond ridiculous. lacrosse is certainly as athletic as football; difference is there's less violence and injury.

I agree with you. Your statement rings true if lacrosse is played by true athletes. Lacrosse is certainly as athletic as football if played by athletes. However, when my 5-year-old boys play lacrosse and football ... the result is hardly athletic (despite my pride as a parent) if you get my drift.

While your average college lacrosse player couldn't sniff a D1 college basketball or football team, the average D1 college bball or football player couldn't sniff the academics to get into Duke or Georgetown or Cornell (unless they were basketball players at D or G).

and to compare lacrosse to golf is beyond ridiculous. lacrosse is certainly as athletic as football; difference is there's less violence and injury.

You must be kidding right. Lax pretend "jocks" at Duke, Georgetown or Cornell with brain power. This is laughable. Lucky, the only reason these bros got into aforementtioned schools is the schools do have to field a lacrosse team. If you were a mentally run of the mill high school squash player you'll have a much better chance getting into Harvard than Podunk U. Why? Podunk U doesn't carry a squash team. Prepster, don't get to full of yourself because you play lacrosse at second tier "Ivy" league institutions...even if this rolls you onto Wall or K street in future.

Look, the thing about lacrosse is that it is emblematic of something beyond the sport. It suggests a class distinction and a life style which is simply absent from any other sport. Not being a wealthy, preppy, private school family, I hate the assumptions people make about our lax playing kids and our family. But they do make those assumptions. So I think the whole lax culture thing is developed on both ends - from those prepsters who seek to protect the exclusivity of the sport and all it signifies - to those outsiders who sniff dismissively and say innane things like it's lacking in athleticism.

While your average college lacrosse player couldn't sniff a D1 college basketball or football team, the average D1 college bball or football player couldn't sniff the academics to get into Duke or Georgetown or Cornell (unless they were basketball players at D or G).

and to compare lacrosse to golf is beyond ridiculous. lacrosse is certainly as athletic as football; difference is there's less violence and injury.

Anonymous wrote:

What the hell? Lacrosse players are athletes just as much as football players or basketball players are. Stating otherwise just provces you have never played and do not even know the game. It is equally physically demanding, if not more so, than any other sport. Lots of boys play both football and lax anyway, that is why lacrosse specifically has "Fall Ball" during football season = no practices and Sunday games, so the both can make football the priority. My son plays both, and husband was a college football player, and I think lacroose is much more physically demanding than football.

What the hell? I've been around high school and college athletics as player and coach for the last 3 decades. Because of size or heart many lacrosse "players" could not make it in football or basketball...hence golf and/or lacrosse. Having attended public and elite private schools lacrosse is tailored to surburban and preppy tastes. Though this demographic is changing and in future may inject some athleticism into the sport.

I agree. DS did both. Lax can have more than 1 game per day - football 1 per week. Perhaps the other poster was referring to the scampering midi lines. Many who play bball or football in college do lacrosse for fun in high school. It can be hard for a coach since many athletes would out perform the lax bros.

What the hell? Lacrosse players are athletes just as much as football players or basketball players are. Stating otherwise just provces you have never played and do not even know the game. It is equally physically demanding, if not more so, than any other sport. Lots of boys play both football and lax anyway, that is why lacrosse specifically has "Fall Ball" during football season = no practices and Sunday games, so the both can make football the priority. My son plays both, and husband was a college football player, and I think lacroose is much more physically demanding than football.

What the hell? I've been around high school and college athletics as player and coach for the last 3 decades. Because of size or heart many lacrosse "players" could not make it in football or basketball...hence golf and/or lacrosse. Having attended public and elite private schools lacrosse is tailored to surburban and preppy tastes. Though this demographic is changing and in future may inject some athleticism into the sport.

Anonymous wrote:I do not think I'm missing the point. Just wanted to make sure no one was confusing this East Coast "suburban" pasttime of lacrosse as athletics (much like golf). These are not athletes in the true sense of the word. I fully understand the feeding role of this club or network for certain schools and later businesses.

What the hell? Lacrosse players are athletes just as much as football players or basketball players are. Stating otherwise just provces you have never played and do not even know the game. It is equally physically demanding, if not more so, than any other sport. Lots of boys play both football and lax anyway, that is why lacrosse specifically has "Fall Ball" during football season = no practices and Sunday games, so the both can make football the priority. My son plays both, and husband was a college football player, and I think lacroose is much more physically demanding than football.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does not start to compare with big time dividion 1 football. Lax players are not really big time athletes. Many of these folk (I know many) did not, or could not make it on competitive football or basketball teams. Just my observations over the years.

You're missing the point. College lax players go on to rule Wall Street. Most Div 1 football players end up coaching high school football, hopelessly trying to relive their fading glory days.

And wall street types are doing such a fine job as leaders of our nations economy, aren't they.

I do not think I'm missing the point. Just wanted to make sure no one was confusing this East Coast "suburban" pasttime of lacrosse as athletics (much like golf). These are not athletes in the true sense of the word. I fully understand the feeding role of this club or network for certain schools and later businesses.

Anonymous wrote:Does not start to compare with big time dividion 1 football. Lax players are not really big time athletes. Many of these folk (I know many) did not, or could not make it on competitive football or basketball teams. Just my observations over the years.

You're missing the point. College lax players go on to rule Wall Street. Most Div 1 football players end up coaching high school football, hopelessly trying to relive their fading glory days.

Does not start to compare with big time dividion 1 football. Lax players are not really big time athletes. Many of these folk (I know many) did not, or could not make it on competitive football or basketball teams. Just my observations over the years.

Anonymous wrote:The difference is that many of these parents have illusions of their kids playing for a D1 college which in many cases are high level institutions such as Princeton, Georgetown, Johns Hopkins Cornell, Virginia or Duke. All these kids are competing to get to these schools. This is why lacrosse is different than other sports. It adds a high level of anxiety for suburban parent bragging rights.

You hit the proverbial nail on the head, my dear. But lax is spreading throughout the land, so within the next 10 years, the East coast elites stranglehold on the sport will be no longer.

Anonymous wrote:have thought about this post more. First - LAX is really big at other schools. Let's try Langley High for one, where they won the Virginia state championship. My DD is beseiged with invites to lax clinics and such and as far as I know, wouldn't be invited to attend Landon. And to the poster who knew from her DD's (and DD friend's) experience that a majority of the 2011 Landon class were vile -- just how many boys did your DD date in one year?

Read my 7/18/11 9:17 post if you want the answer. Don't be sexist.

have thought about this post more. First - LAX is really big at other schools. Let's try Langley High for one, where they won the Virginia state championship. My DD is beseiged with invites to lax clinics and such and as far as I know, wouldn't be invited to attend Landon. And to the poster who knew from her DD's (and DD friend's) experience that a majority of the 2011 Landon class were vile -- just how many boys did your DD date in one year?