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Anonymous wrote:UMD has 1.5 national championships in football since 1950 the modern age of football. When Michigan closes the gap with .5 more championships I’ll sit up and notice. Cramming in with 100000 people and spending massive resources for a non championship program of more than 70 years seems good for people with nothing better to do.

Foolish comment.

You’re right . Michigan’s 1 national championship in 70 + years is awesome !!
.5 more and you catch mighty UMD and that’s a tough task.

So you've randomly decided that 1950 constitutes the "modern age of football" in order to say UMD has won more championships? That's funny. But why start there?

Michigan has had 9 national championships. In two of them, a future U.S. president played for the Wolverines. (Gerald Ford, 1932 and 1933)

GO BLUE!

Yes. Thank you.

Michigan is also the winningest program in college football. And the players actually do have to take classes and do well. They have one of the highest GPAs of any college football program.

Michigan is not Alabama. Recruits turn down Michigan every year because they don’t think they can handle the academics.

Uh huh.

1 championship since the 1940s

UMD has 1.5

100000 seat stadium seems a bit much. Get a smithsonian or Kennedy center .. jeez.

How can it be too much when, until the pandemic, every Michigan game since 1975 had 100,000 people in attendance?

GO BLUE!

I agree. Just like Trump rally’s … people can’t believe they completely sell out but I say it’s great for people to be happy.

1. Trump rallies don’t sell out.

2. Most people who go to Michigan games didn’t vote for Trump. It’s Ann Arbor, not Tuscaloosa.

Still I’m glad the 100000 a game football fans are happy despite having fewer national championships than Umd for the last 70+ years. It shows perseverance and doggedness. UMD alum say if at first you don’t succeed … try again … then quit .. no sense in being a damn fool about it. Both philosophies have their merit.

Keep telling yourself you have more national championships and that your program is therefore more successful. Maybe one day someone else will agree with you … but probably not because it’s nonsense.

DP but since the creation of the NCAA, UM has one championship and UMD has one and a half championship.

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Anonymous wrote:Texas may go the B1G quickly before formally joining the SEC

My prediction is Texas , Florida, ND and either Stanford or Cal joining the B1G and that will be the 20.

Just a completely dominant and powerful alliance from coast to coast bordering the Atlantic, Pacific, Gulf and Canada with the biggest research schools and media markets. The B1G played 5D chess.

And top to bottom, they still will lose to the SEC in football.

Not true for Michigan, but ok.

https://wolverineswire.usatoday.com/lists/michigan-football-all-time-record-vs-the-sec-conference-college-football/

Look at the last 16 National Champions. 12 SEC, 3 ACC, 1 Big 10:

2021 Georgia
2020 Alabama
2019 LSU
2018 Clemson
2017 Alabama
2016 Clemson
2015 Alabama
2014 Ohio State
2013 Florida State
2012 Alabama
2011 Alabama
2010 Auburn
2009 Alabama
2008 Florida
2007 LSU
2006 Florida

If Bama wasn’t in the SEC, it would be clear how much the rest of the conference is awful. But you all act as though it’s this super strong conference through and through.

OK, remove Alabama and you still have 6 SEC, 3 ACC, 1 Big 10.

I see the B1G prioritizing both Cal and Stanford over Texas. By doing so they nail down (with UCLA and USC) the four premier programs and the two largest media markets in the country’s largest state. I don’t see any scenario of under which only Cal or Stanford goes. Like UCLA and USC I see them as a package.

The likelihood of ND joining the B1G continues to grow — slowly but steadily.

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Anonymous wrote:Texas may go the B1G quickly before formally joining the SEC

My prediction is Texas , Florida, ND and either Stanford or Cal joining the B1G and that will be the 20.

Just a completely dominant and powerful alliance from coast to coast bordering the Atlantic, Pacific, Gulf and Canada with the biggest research schools and media markets. The B1G played 5D chess.

And top to bottom, they still will lose to the SEC in football.

Not true for Michigan, but ok.

https://wolverineswire.usatoday.com/lists/michigan-football-all-time-record-vs-the-sec-conference-college-football/

Look at the last 16 National Champions. 12 SEC, 3 ACC, 1 Big 10:

2021 Georgia
2020 Alabama
2019 LSU
2018 Clemson
2017 Alabama
2016 Clemson
2015 Alabama
2014 Ohio State
2013 Florida State
2012 Alabama
2011 Alabama
2010 Auburn
2009 Alabama
2008 Florida
2007 LSU
2006 Florida

If Bama wasn’t in the SEC, it would be clear how much the rest of the conference is awful. But you all act as though it’s this super strong conference through and through.

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Anonymous wrote:Texas may go the B1G quickly before formally joining the SEC

My prediction is Texas , Florida, ND and either Stanford or Cal joining the B1G and that will be the 20.

Just a completely dominant and powerful alliance from coast to coast bordering the Atlantic, Pacific, Gulf and Canada with the biggest research schools and media markets. The B1G played 5D chess.

And top to bottom, they still will lose to the SEC in football.

Not true for Michigan, but ok.

https://wolverineswire.usatoday.com/lists/michigan-football-all-time-record-vs-the-sec-conference-college-football/

Look at the last 16 National Champions. 12 SEC, 3 ACC, 1 Big 10:

2021 Georgia
2020 Alabama
2019 LSU
2018 Clemson
2017 Alabama
2016 Clemson
2015 Alabama
2014 Ohio State
2013 Florida State
2012 Alabama
2011 Alabama
2010 Auburn
2009 Alabama
2008 Florida
2007 LSU
2006 Florida

And actually the SEC only has a winning all time record vs Illinois and Northwestern.

Most of the SEC is awful. They ride on the wins of Bama, which is only a relatively recent thing. They were awful before the last 15 years or so.

https://secfootballonline.com/sec-vs-big-ten-all-time-head-to-head-football-record/

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Anonymous wrote:Texas may go the B1G quickly before formally joining the SEC

My prediction is Texas , Florida, ND and either Stanford or Cal joining the B1G and that will be the 20.

Just a completely dominant and powerful alliance from coast to coast bordering the Atlantic, Pacific, Gulf and Canada with the biggest research schools and media markets. The B1G played 5D chess.

And top to bottom, they still will lose to the SEC in football.

Not true for Michigan, but ok.

https://wolverineswire.usatoday.com/lists/michigan-football-all-time-record-vs-the-sec-conference-college-football/

Anonymous wrote:Texas may go the B1G quickly before formally joining the SEC

My prediction is Texas , Florida, ND and either Stanford or Cal joining the B1G and that will be the 20.

Just a completely dominant and powerful alliance from coast to coast bordering the Atlantic, Pacific, Gulf and Canada with the biggest research schools and media markets. The B1G played 5D chess.

And top to bottom, they still will lose to the SEC in football.

Texas may go the B1G quickly before formally joining the SEC

My prediction is Texas , Florida, ND and either Stanford or Cal joining the B1G and that will be the 20.

Just a completely dominant and powerful alliance from coast to coast bordering the Atlantic, Pacific, Gulf and Canada with the biggest research schools and media markets. The B1G played 5D chess.

I can’t see Texas going to the B1G. I think they stay put and reap the riches in an expanded SEC.

I don’t think the B1G does anything until Notre Dame inevitably makes the decision to join them. At that point they nab likely Cal and Stanford and one other school before standing pat at 20.

This may sound unpopular, but I think the B1G should nab Connecticut as the 20th school. I have zero ties to UCONN. I know their football program is in the ditch right now (and has been for a decade), but looking long-term — this is a top public university in New England, has a storied basketball history, has a national following with its women’s team in particular, and offers notable inroads into the New York (more so than Rutgers), Hartford, and Boston media markets. If their football program turns a corner, I think there is tremendous potential there.

Anyway, we’ll see.

Can’t wait till they Add UCLA and USC to this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1JCkoA6qvNU

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter whether Texas is in the B1G or SEC. The SEC can easily find other top tier programs to add if indeed Texas were to change its mind.

The future is set. B1G and SEC will break away from the NCAA and create a pre-NFL with paid student players. Billion dollar "college" stadiums are on the horizon, too.

And paying the student players will allow them to be exploited like never before.

If Texas switched to the B1G it would be an earthquake. Then Florida would want in the B1G would add Stanford or Cal for the Bay Area and ND would probably be forced to join. It would be completely dominant. The only question is if the B1G would want the total control the attacks and vindictiveness that would happen. The SEC and B1G being competitive probably brings in enough states to be politically protected.

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Anonymous wrote:Now that UCLA and USC are partners it looks like it could be 100 million+ per year. Plus with UMD being the 8th highest public and 14th highest overall research budget nationally, it could increase those rankings as well.

I feel bad for Uva and UNC that could be stuck in the ACC with that horrible iron clad contract through 2036.

Aren't the sports programs a net negative for the university? I mean the stadiums alone cost more than this.

Not if you are in a conference with big TV rights. The BIG10 schools average something like $50m/year in sports revenue. Plus there is a recruiting benefit in the revenue sports which drives alumni donations, ticket sales, merchandise sales, etc.

The SEC distributed $55 million to each school last year. That will go up when Oklahoma and Texas join. That’s over and above the revenue they made themselves and alumni donations. Even during Covid, UT Austin generated $200 million in sports revenue for about $22 million in profit. In a normal year, it’s tens of millions more.

IME, the stadiums are paid for with alumni donations. My alma mater is expanding the football stadium, and it will be 100% funded by alumni.

Over at Burnt Orange they are hedging toward flipping to the BiG for more money and academic prestige. Is the SEC forcing them to stay or is it easy to go where they want?

I'm sure those are the people in charge. . .

Hey, Michigan fans played a pretty big role in getting Dave Brandon to leave Michigan. Fans can have a big influence on a program.

The Brandon story and conference realignment are apples and oranges. Fans have no influence on the conference expansion/realignment decisions being made by the B1G and SEC schools, or those schools thinking about/wishing to join.

If a program makes a decision about pretty much anything and fans stop going to games, the program will reconsider. Ultimately fans have a ton of power because they’re the ones spending money.

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Anonymous wrote:Now that UCLA and USC are partners it looks like it could be 100 million+ per year. Plus with UMD being the 8th highest public and 14th highest overall research budget nationally, it could increase those rankings as well.

I feel bad for Uva and UNC that could be stuck in the ACC with that horrible iron clad contract through 2036.

Aren't the sports programs a net negative for the university? I mean the stadiums alone cost more than this.

Not if you are in a conference with big TV rights. The BIG10 schools average something like $50m/year in sports revenue. Plus there is a recruiting benefit in the revenue sports which drives alumni donations, ticket sales, merchandise sales, etc.

The SEC distributed $55 million to each school last year. That will go up when Oklahoma and Texas join. That’s over and above the revenue they made themselves and alumni donations. Even during Covid, UT Austin generated $200 million in sports revenue for about $22 million in profit. In a normal year, it’s tens of millions more.

IME, the stadiums are paid for with alumni donations. My alma mater is expanding the football stadium, and it will be 100% funded by alumni.

Over at Burnt Orange they are hedging toward flipping to the BiG for more money and academic prestige. Is the SEC forcing them to stay or is it easy to go where they want?

I'm sure those are the people in charge. . .

Hey, Michigan fans played a pretty big role in getting Dave Brandon to leave Michigan. Fans can have a big influence on a program.

The Brandon story and conference realignment are apples and oranges. Fans have no influence on the conference expansion/realignment decisions being made by the B1G and SEC schools, or those schools thinking about/wishing to join.

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Anonymous wrote:Now that UCLA and USC are partners it looks like it could be 100 million+ per year. Plus with UMD being the 8th highest public and 14th highest overall research budget nationally, it could increase those rankings as well.

I feel bad for Uva and UNC that could be stuck in the ACC with that horrible iron clad contract through 2036.

Aren't the sports programs a net negative for the university? I mean the stadiums alone cost more than this.

Not if you are in a conference with big TV rights. The BIG10 schools average something like $50m/year in sports revenue. Plus there is a recruiting benefit in the revenue sports which drives alumni donations, ticket sales, merchandise sales, etc.

The SEC distributed $55 million to each school last year. That will go up when Oklahoma and Texas join. That’s over and above the revenue they made themselves and alumni donations. Even during Covid, UT Austin generated $200 million in sports revenue for about $22 million in profit. In a normal year, it’s tens of millions more.

IME, the stadiums are paid for with alumni donations. My alma mater is expanding the football stadium, and it will be 100% funded by alumni.

Over at Burnt Orange they are hedging toward flipping to the BiG for more money and academic prestige. Is the SEC forcing them to stay or is it easy to go where they want?

I'm sure those are the people in charge. . .

Hey, Michigan fans played a pretty big role in getting Dave Brandon to leave Michigan. Fans can have a big influence on a program.