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you could try size 7 diapers if he's small enough, i hear they work better than goodnites.

It's been years since my kids were in diapers, but the OP said her kid was 7. I seriously doubt a kid that age would fit in a diaper, not I don't think at that age they'd agree to wear something that goes on like that, as opposed to the convenience of slipping on a pull up.

OP, does the kid wake up when an accident occurs? Aren't the goodnites just like larger sized pull ups? I'd just leave a stack of them in his room, and tell him that if he wakes up for any reason in the MOTN, check and see if his goodnite is soggy, if so - swap it out for a fresh one before going back to bed after wiping off.

I think giving him some independence and responsibility to manage this for himself will help immensely and give him self esteem for handling things himself.

I have been holding off posting to this thread as I don’t usually post on the bedwetting threads for one reason or another but decided to chime in here.

I too have 3 kids. All boys. We have potty trained them all the same including night training. The older 2 were out of diapers and dry at night by 3. My youngest who is 7 still wets every night, and has his entire life. We have done no diapers and lifting at night, setting alarms, double and triple voiding before bed, no liquid after a certain time, you name it. I think some kids are just different. As for a 7 year old fitting in a diaper I guess it just depends on the kid but most 7 year olds I’m around are like my son and skinny as a toothpick. My son still fits in a diaper easily. And yes goodnites are just like a bigger pull-up and a pull-up is just like a diaper that pulls on. The difference is goodnites are more expensive than pull-ups, and pull-ups are more expensive than diapers. Also diapers seem to hold more. Or maybe they just fit better. We have tried both goodnites and regular pull-ups which leaked a lot. Maybe it depends on how you approach the situation but my son doesn’t mind diapers at all. He’s not embarrassed in the least to wear them. He is a very confident kid though. Maybe some kids would be different. I’m just glad mines not.

I previously posted that my almost 7 year old (in August) still wears a diaper to bed. He too is small for his age and shockingly can still wear a size 4. We are probably going to size up the next time we have to buy some. It doesnt seem to bother him either. He "prefers" them to having to wake up in a wet bed. During the summer thats all he wears to bed and doenst care who sees him wearing one. I am happy that he isnt embarrassed over it but, I still would like him to care a little if you know what I mean. He has no issues lounging around in the morning in a diaper until I see him and make him go change. On the rare occasion he is dry, when I tell him to go change, he will flat out tell me that he is dry and will change in "a little bit". I know I have to pick my battles but he seems almost too comfortable wearing one of that makes sense. But on the otherhand, he (we) HATE having to wake up to a wet bed in the morning. Like you mentioned, pull ups cost more than diapers and you get less in a pack for the price. And again, like you, pull ups we would still have a wet bed 2-3 times out of the week. Does it bother yours at all that he still wets the bed? I know you mentioned that he isnt embarrassed to have to wear a diaper.
We really want to get him a new mattress because you can only clean and flip a mattress so many times and I cant get rid of the faint pee odor. He still has his old toddler bed but I dont know how he will feel about going backwards from a full size to a toddler bed.

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Anonymous wrote:When your pediatrician, urologist, etc. eventually does become “concerned” because your child reaches some age on a chart that magically declares them “late” on night training, the steps to remedy the situation will be no different than they are now, your child will just be older, and will have peed the bed longer. He/she is not going to just magically stop one day. Most of us whose kids no longer pee the bed DID train them. It didn’t “just happen.”

Judgy mcJudgerson, you know nothing. I have 4 kids. 3 had zero issues staying dry at night with zero interventions from me by age 2.5-3. The fourth was a very deep sleeper who didn’t wake at night if he needed to pee until he was 9. We tried limiting liquids several hours before bed and waking him up to pee at midnight and he just wouldn’t wake. We tried at age 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and finally around his 9th birthday he started waking up on his own. So yes, they do usually “magically” wake up at a certain point and become able to do this. Very few kids are graduating from high school still wetting the bed.

Without knowing what you “tried” at those ages, this doesn’t really mean anything.

I literally said what I tried - which was what others here “recommended” - as did our doctors. Limiting liquids and taking him to pee at night. He wasn’t ready PHYSIOLOGICALLY. And that was ok and considered “normal”. It’s not lazy parenting.

For how many weeks did you try this? Did you do it without diapers or pullups? Or were you just waiting for him to not pee in the pullup you put on him? You are obviously never going to agree you could have done it sooner, but you will never really know. Once I realized how long it took to train DD, I know I could have done it sooner. But when I tried the previous times, I just didn't give it long enough before quitting.

Or, much more likely, she was just finally ready for training to be effective.

I never did any training before that. I was just waiting for them to "magically wake up dry" and that never happened with any of my kids. The summer before K we just decided to go cold turkey and no looking back. I'm very glad I didn't wait until 7/8/9 or for my pediatrician to all of a sudden be "concerned."

I was a bedwetter until I was in late elementary, but never had an accident when I slept at someone else's house or at camp or at the grandparent's - I was a heavy sleeper but only in my own bed.

Have you thought about moving around the furniture or changing the blinds/window coverings in your child's room? When my family moved to a new house, it magically stopped (and I was so happy, because I had to change the sheets and it was long before Pullups existed).

Just a thought.

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I have been holding off posting to this thread as I don’t usually post on the bedwetting threads for one reason or another but decided to chime in here.

I too have 3 kids. All boys. We have potty trained them all the same including night training. The older 2 were out of diapers and dry at night by 3. My youngest who is 7 still wets every night, and has his entire life. We have done no diapers and lifting at night, setting alarms, double and triple voiding before bed, no liquid after a certain time, you name it. I think some kids are just different. As for a 7 year old fitting in a diaper I guess it just depends on the kid but most 7 year olds I’m around are like my son and skinny as a toothpick. My son still fits in a diaper easily. And yes goodnites are just like a bigger pull-up and a pull-up is just like a diaper that pulls on. The difference is goodnites are more expensive than pull-ups, and pull-ups are more expensive than diapers. Also diapers seem to hold more. Or maybe they just fit better. We have tried both goodnites and regular pull-ups which leaked a lot. Maybe it depends on how you approach the situation but my son doesn’t mind diapers at all. He’s not embarrassed in the least to wear them. He is a very confident kid though. Maybe some kids would be different. I’m just glad mines not.

NP, haven't had the chance to read through the thread yet, but I wanted to add on to this.

My kid is SN, has sensory sensitivities and is on the spectrum. He'll be 6 in August. We only just got him potty trained in the day last year, but he's still in diapers at nighttime and likely will be for the forseable future.

We still use diapers (Curity size 7) because of the aforementioned sensory issues. They're covered by our insurance, but are otherwise no different than the major store brands.

My son is the spectrum, so obviously embarrassment isn't a major factor when it comes to him still wearing diapers to bed. But what I will say is we've NEVER found a pullup that can hold up to the amount of pee he produces at night, compared to a diaper.

For a bit of reference, we had to escape a house fire last year, early in the morning before DS was potty trained. We scooped DS into the car and weren't able to change him out of his (already wet) nighttime diaper until almost noon that day, because of everything that was going on. Zero leaks during that time, even though his diaper was like a balloon once we were finally able to change him. There's no way on earth a pull up could have done that.

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Anonymous wrote:When your pediatrician, urologist, etc. eventually does become “concerned” because your child reaches some age on a chart that magically declares them “late” on night training, the steps to remedy the situation will be no different than they are now, your child will just be older, and will have peed the bed longer. He/she is not going to just magically stop one day. Most of us whose kids no longer pee the bed DID train them. It didn’t “just happen.”

Judgy mcJudgerson, you know nothing. I have 4 kids. 3 had zero issues staying dry at night with zero interventions from me by age 2.5-3. The fourth was a very deep sleeper who didn’t wake at night if he needed to pee until he was 9. We tried limiting liquids several hours before bed and waking him up to pee at midnight and he just wouldn’t wake. We tried at age 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and finally around his 9th birthday he started waking up on his own. So yes, they do usually “magically” wake up at a certain point and become able to do this. Very few kids are graduating from high school still wetting the bed.

Without knowing what you “tried” at those ages, this doesn’t really mean anything.

I literally said what I tried - which was what others here “recommended” - as did our doctors. Limiting liquids and taking him to pee at night. He wasn’t ready PHYSIOLOGICALLY. And that was ok and considered “normal”. It’s not lazy parenting.

For how many weeks did you try this? Did you do it without diapers or pullups? Or were you just waiting for him to not pee in the pullup you put on him? You are obviously never going to agree you could have done it sooner, but you will never really know. Once I realized how long it took to train DD, I know I could have done it sooner. But when I tried the previous times, I just didn't give it long enough before quitting.

Or, much more likely, she was just finally ready for training to be effective.

Agreed. I do not even know what night training is. My #1 was not dry at night till 9. My #2 was dry at night at 3. They were both day trained at the some age. #2 needed nothing special to wake up dry in the am. She just started doing it.

I agree it is totally normal. My ped said some kids are light sleepers and wake up to pee and some kids have a large enough bladder to not need to...and then there are the kids who do not fit into either category. They just need time.

My son slept so soundly that wet sheets did not wake him up so that was not an issue for us.

Op, this is fairly common. This is why peds aren’t concerned. It’s a pain for you and frustrating. Try to come up with a plan so that you won’t have to change the sheets. Such as: have DC wear 2 pull-ups or real underwear then pull up on top (they feel the pee). Put down those soaking pads under DC as well. Do you have a rubberized sheet cover over the mattress?

Continue to have DC pee an extra time right before bed. Set an alarm 4 hours in and have DC pee again.
There’s no magic bullet. It takes time. Sometimes a lot of time. Hang in there.

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Anonymous wrote:When your pediatrician, urologist, etc. eventually does become “concerned” because your child reaches some age on a chart that magically declares them “late” on night training, the steps to remedy the situation will be no different than they are now, your child will just be older, and will have peed the bed longer. He/she is not going to just magically stop one day. Most of us whose kids no longer pee the bed DID train them. It didn’t “just happen.”

Judgy mcJudgerson, you know nothing. I have 4 kids. 3 had zero issues staying dry at night with zero interventions from me by age 2.5-3. The fourth was a very deep sleeper who didn’t wake at night if he needed to pee until he was 9. We tried limiting liquids several hours before bed and waking him up to pee at midnight and he just wouldn’t wake. We tried at age 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and finally around his 9th birthday he started waking up on his own. So yes, they do usually “magically” wake up at a certain point and become able to do this. Very few kids are graduating from high school still wetting the bed.

Without knowing what you “tried” at those ages, this doesn’t really mean anything.

I literally said what I tried - which was what others here “recommended” - as did our doctors. Limiting liquids and taking him to pee at night. He wasn’t ready PHYSIOLOGICALLY. And that was ok and considered “normal”. It’s not lazy parenting.

For how many weeks did you try this? Did you do it without diapers or pullups? Or were you just waiting for him to not pee in the pullup you put on him? You are obviously never going to agree you could have done it sooner, but you will never really know. Once I realized how long it took to train DD, I know I could have done it sooner. But when I tried the previous times, I just didn't give it long enough before quitting.

Or, much more likely, she was just finally ready for training to be effective.

Anonymous wrote:When your pediatrician, urologist, etc. eventually does become “concerned” because your child reaches some age on a chart that magically declares them “late” on night training, the steps to remedy the situation will be no different than they are now, your child will just be older, and will have peed the bed longer. He/she is not going to just magically stop one day. Most of us whose kids no longer pee the bed DID train them. It didn’t “just happen.”

You can keep saying this but that doesn't make it true. MOST kids between the ages of 3 and 5 will just start magically waking up dry, even if they are wearing diapers. Your "training" may have hustled the process along by a few weeks or months, but chances are they didn't need the training to be successfully dry at night at a young age.

A relatively small percentage of kids will not be dry at night at a young age without training, and a smaller percentage won't be dry at night before puberty no matter how much training they get.

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you could try size 7 diapers if he's small enough, i hear they work better than goodnites.

It's been years since my kids were in diapers, but the OP said her kid was 7. I seriously doubt a kid that age would fit in a diaper, not I don't think at that age they'd agree to wear something that goes on like that, as opposed to the convenience of slipping on a pull up.

OP, does the kid wake up when an accident occurs? Aren't the goodnites just like larger sized pull ups? I'd just leave a stack of them in his room, and tell him that if he wakes up for any reason in the MOTN, check and see if his goodnite is soggy, if so - swap it out for a fresh one before going back to bed after wiping off.

I think giving him some independence and responsibility to manage this for himself will help immensely and give him self esteem for handling things himself.

I have been holding off posting to this thread as I don’t usually post on the bedwetting threads for one reason or another but decided to chime in here.

I too have 3 kids. All boys. We have potty trained them all the same including night training. The older 2 were out of diapers and dry at night by 3. My youngest who is 7 still wets every night, and has his entire life. We have done no diapers and lifting at night, setting alarms, double and triple voiding before bed, no liquid after a certain time, you name it. I think some kids are just different. As for a 7 year old fitting in a diaper I guess it just depends on the kid but most 7 year olds I’m around are like my son and skinny as a toothpick. My son still fits in a diaper easily. And yes goodnites are just like a bigger pull-up and a pull-up is just like a diaper that pulls on. The difference is goodnites are more expensive than pull-ups, and pull-ups are more expensive than diapers. Also diapers seem to hold more. Or maybe they just fit better. We have tried both goodnites and regular pull-ups which leaked a lot. Maybe it depends on how you approach the situation but my son doesn’t mind diapers at all. He’s not embarrassed in the least to wear them. He is a very confident kid though. Maybe some kids would be different. I’m just glad mines not.

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you could try size 7 diapers if he's small enough, i hear they work better than goodnites.

It's been years since my kids were in diapers, but the OP said her kid was 7. I seriously doubt a kid that age would fit in a diaper, not I don't think at that age they'd agree to wear something that goes on like that, as opposed to the convenience of slipping on a pull up.

OP, does the kid wake up when an accident occurs? Aren't the goodnites just like larger sized pull ups? I'd just leave a stack of them in his room, and tell him that if he wakes up for any reason in the MOTN, check and see if his goodnite is soggy, if so - swap it out for a fresh one before going back to bed after wiping off.

I think giving him some independence and responsibility to manage this for himself will help immensely and give him self esteem for handling things himself.

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Anonymous wrote:When your pediatrician, urologist, etc. eventually does become “concerned” because your child reaches some age on a chart that magically declares them “late” on night training, the steps to remedy the situation will be no different than they are now, your child will just be older, and will have peed the bed longer. He/she is not going to just magically stop one day. Most of us whose kids no longer pee the bed DID train them. It didn’t “just happen.”

Judgy mcJudgerson, you know nothing. I have 4 kids. 3 had zero issues staying dry at night with zero interventions from me by age 2.5-3. The fourth was a very deep sleeper who didn’t wake at night if he needed to pee until he was 9. We tried limiting liquids several hours before bed and waking him up to pee at midnight and he just wouldn’t wake. We tried at age 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and finally around his 9th birthday he started waking up on his own. So yes, they do usually “magically” wake up at a certain point and become able to do this. Very few kids are graduating from high school still wetting the bed.

Without knowing what you “tried” at those ages, this doesn’t really mean anything.

I literally said what I tried - which was what others here “recommended” - as did our doctors. Limiting liquids and taking him to pee at night. He wasn’t ready PHYSIOLOGICALLY. And that was ok and considered “normal”. It’s not lazy parenting.

For how many weeks did you try this? Did you do it without diapers or pullups? Or were you just waiting for him to not pee in the pullup you put on him? You are obviously never going to agree you could have done it sooner, but you will never really know. Once I realized how long it took to train DD, I know I could have done it sooner. But when I tried the previous times, I just didn't give it long enough before quitting.

Weeks and months. And consulted multiple doctors including urologists who agreed that he just. Wasn’t. Ready.

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Anonymous wrote:When your pediatrician, urologist, etc. eventually does become “concerned” because your child reaches some age on a chart that magically declares them “late” on night training, the steps to remedy the situation will be no different than they are now, your child will just be older, and will have peed the bed longer. He/she is not going to just magically stop one day. Most of us whose kids no longer pee the bed DID train them. It didn’t “just happen.”

Judgy mcJudgerson, you know nothing. I have 4 kids. 3 had zero issues staying dry at night with zero interventions from me by age 2.5-3. The fourth was a very deep sleeper who didn’t wake at night if he needed to pee until he was 9. We tried limiting liquids several hours before bed and waking him up to pee at midnight and he just wouldn’t wake. We tried at age 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and finally around his 9th birthday he started waking up on his own. So yes, they do usually “magically” wake up at a certain point and become able to do this. Very few kids are graduating from high school still wetting the bed.

Without knowing what you “tried” at those ages, this doesn’t really mean anything.

I literally said what I tried - which was what others here “recommended” - as did our doctors. Limiting liquids and taking him to pee at night. He wasn’t ready PHYSIOLOGICALLY. And that was ok and considered “normal”. It’s not lazy parenting.

For how many weeks did you try this? Did you do it without diapers or pullups? Or were you just waiting for him to not pee in the pullup you put on him? You are obviously never going to agree you could have done it sooner, but you will never really know. Once I realized how long it took to train DD, I know I could have done it sooner. But when I tried the previous times, I just didn't give it long enough before quitting.

Have you seen a pediatric urologist ?

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Anonymous wrote:When your pediatrician, urologist, etc. eventually does become “concerned” because your child reaches some age on a chart that magically declares them “late” on night training, the steps to remedy the situation will be no different than they are now, your child will just be older, and will have peed the bed longer. He/she is not going to just magically stop one day. Most of us whose kids no longer pee the bed DID train them. It didn’t “just happen.”

Judgy mcJudgerson, you know nothing. I have 4 kids. 3 had zero issues staying dry at night with zero interventions from me by age 2.5-3. The fourth was a very deep sleeper who didn’t wake at night if he needed to pee until he was 9. We tried limiting liquids several hours before bed and waking him up to pee at midnight and he just wouldn’t wake. We tried at age 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and finally around his 9th birthday he started waking up on his own. So yes, they do usually “magically” wake up at a certain point and become able to do this. Very few kids are graduating from high school still wetting the bed.

Without knowing what you “tried” at those ages, this doesn’t really mean anything.

I literally said what I tried - which was what others here “recommended” - as did our doctors. Limiting liquids and taking him to pee at night. He wasn’t ready PHYSIOLOGICALLY. And that was ok and considered “normal”. It’s not lazy parenting.