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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see. He created this earth for us to enjoy with the landscapes of the mountains and oceans. I enjoy the seasons ranging from spring where the flowers bloom, to the fall with the beautiful autumn leaves. Then there’s the people. I love my family and there’s many amazing people I’ve met throughout my life. It hasn’t been all rainbows and unicorns, but I’ve lived a much better life than most of the world.

I'm an atheist and am having a nice life, too, enjoying nature and people and am fortunate to have lived without war or major illness.

Hard to imagine that a loving god would give good lives to a particular believer and non-believer, while giving such awful lives to whole countries of believers who experience war, famine, flood or fire.

It seems totally random and maybe it is. Maybe believers feel better, though, because they feel protected and have someone to pray to, and belong to a community of good, like-minded people, and believe that their life will continue forever in heaven, with the god they have been praying to and worshipping.

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Anonymous wrote:Is he psycho, like the people who lock their family in basement and punish if anyone tries to escape? I mean seriously think about it, what if he really is a genius nut job with uncapped power?

don't worry about, because he's "supernatural" i.e., he exists only in your imagination.

Supernatural doesn’t mean something exists only in a person’s imagination. It means it exists beyond the natural world.

I other words, only in your imagination

No, your understanding is limited on this matter.

In other words, only in your imagination -- and, in religion, taught to people for them to believe in under threat of internal punishment. Other supernatural beings, like fairies, often believed in by children, inflict no punishment on non-believers and adults are not expected to believe in them.

The assertion that the natural world is all there is is a metaphysical and philosophical claim in itself—a claim which you are attempting to proseletyze and impose on believers of other religions with an evangelical fervor. You’re really projecting the whole “religious people forcing other people to believe” something and its quite imperialistic. Then again, self-awareness only exists in the imagination too I suppose.

Calm yourself. The above info on supernatural beings is simply factual. Nothing is imposed, proselytized, forced or imperialistic.

Oh well it must be “merely factual”, because you said so!! Yes massah, whatever you say boss.

Not because anyone said so; because what is natural can be studied scientifically, while what is supernatural can only be believed.

Scientific study is merely observation of phenomenon; it cannot explain “Why” a thing happens outside of human conjecture. At least religious people are honest about what they believe, you seem to be unaware that a belief in nothing is still a belief.

pp seems unaware that non-believers in religion simply reject the claims of supernaturalism espoused by religions.

It’s one thing to reject a belief, but it comes across that you also want to impose your belief on the people who believe in a religion different than yours. People believe God cares about them—why are so many people in this thread hellbent on telling them that he doesn’t? That is literally proselytizing. Or they keep asking why, why, why—why do you care what other people believe at all, and why do they need to prove anything to you when you already have an established belief?

Personally, the only reason I care about what other people believe is when they assume I either do believe, or should believe what they do. This attitude is common among certain Christians who assume their beliefs are correct and best and that anyone with any intelligence at all would believe the way they do - or at least shut up about it.

Thus, it appears that people who acknowledge that they think and believe differently want to 'impose' their beliefs, when actually, it's the other way around: the christians want us to believe the way they do, or shut up. They are happy to engage us in conversation until it becomes obvious that we're not going to be converted - then it can get ugly.

Anonymous wrote:Let’s see. He created this earth for us to enjoy with the landscapes of the mountains and oceans. I enjoy the seasons ranging from spring where the flowers bloom, to the fall with the beautiful autumn leaves. Then there’s the people. I love my family and there’s many amazing people I’ve met throughout my life. It hasn’t been all rainbows and unicorns, but I’ve lived a much better life than most of the world.

I'm an atheist and am having a nice life, too, enjoying nature and people and am fortunate to have lived without war or major illness.

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Anonymous wrote:Is he psycho, like the people who lock their family in basement and punish if anyone tries to escape? I mean seriously think about it, what if he really is a genius nut job with uncapped power?

don't worry about, because he's "supernatural" i.e., he exists only in your imagination.

Supernatural doesn’t mean something exists only in a person’s imagination. It means it exists beyond the natural world.

I other words, only in your imagination

No, your understanding is limited on this matter.

In other words, only in your imagination -- and, in religion, taught to people for them to believe in under threat of internal punishment. Other supernatural beings, like fairies, often believed in by children, inflict no punishment on non-believers and adults are not expected to believe in them.

The assertion that the natural world is all there is is a metaphysical and philosophical claim in itself—a claim which you are attempting to proseletyze and impose on believers of other religions with an evangelical fervor. You’re really projecting the whole “religious people forcing other people to believe” something and its quite imperialistic. Then again, self-awareness only exists in the imagination too I suppose.

Calm yourself. The above info on supernatural beings is simply factual. Nothing is imposed, proselytized, forced or imperialistic.

Oh well it must be “merely factual”, because you said so!! Yes massah, whatever you say boss.

Not because anyone said so; because what is natural can be studied scientifically, while what is supernatural can only be believed.

Scientific study is merely observation of phenomenon; it cannot explain “Why” a thing happens outside of human conjecture. At least religious people are honest about what they believe, you seem to be unaware that a belief in nothing is still a belief.

pp seems unaware that non-believers in religion simply reject the claims of supernaturalism espoused by religions.

It’s one thing to reject a belief, but it comes across that you also want to impose your belief on the people who believe in a religion different than yours. People believe God cares about them—why are so many people in this thread hellbent on telling them that he doesn’t? That is literally proselytizing. Or they keep asking why, why, why—why do you care what other people believe at all, and why do they need to prove anything to you when you already have an established belief?

I don’t give a damn what you believe

You care so very much about other’s beliefs it’s painful to witness.

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Anonymous wrote:Is he psycho, like the people who lock their family in basement and punish if anyone tries to escape? I mean seriously think about it, what if he really is a genius nut job with uncapped power?

don't worry about, because he's "supernatural" i.e., he exists only in your imagination.

Supernatural doesn’t mean something exists only in a person’s imagination. It means it exists beyond the natural world.

I other words, only in your imagination

No, your understanding is limited on this matter.

In other words, only in your imagination -- and, in religion, taught to people for them to believe in under threat of internal punishment. Other supernatural beings, like fairies, often believed in by children, inflict no punishment on non-believers and adults are not expected to believe in them.

The assertion that the natural world is all there is is a metaphysical and philosophical claim in itself—a claim which you are attempting to proseletyze and impose on believers of other religions with an evangelical fervor. You’re really projecting the whole “religious people forcing other people to believe” something and its quite imperialistic. Then again, self-awareness only exists in the imagination too I suppose.

Calm yourself. The above info on supernatural beings is simply factual. Nothing is imposed, proselytized, forced or imperialistic.

Oh well it must be “merely factual”, because you said so!! Yes massah, whatever you say boss.

Not because anyone said so; because what is natural can be studied scientifically, while what is supernatural can only be believed.

Scientific study is merely observation of phenomenon; it cannot explain “Why” a thing happens outside of human conjecture. At least religious people are honest about what they believe, you seem to be unaware that a belief in nothing is still a belief.

pp seems unaware that non-believers in religion simply reject the claims of supernaturalism espoused by religions.

It’s one thing to reject a belief, but it comes across that you also want to impose your belief on the people who believe in a religion different than yours. People believe God cares about them—why are so many people in this thread hellbent on telling them that he doesn’t? That is literally proselytizing. Or they keep asking why, why, why—why do you care what other people believe at all, and why do they need to prove anything to you when you already have an established belief?

Obsession is an ugly thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Is he psycho, like the people who lock their family in basement and punish if anyone tries to escape? I mean seriously think about it, what if he really is a genius nut job with uncapped power?

don't worry about, because he's "supernatural" i.e., he exists only in your imagination.

Supernatural doesn’t mean something exists only in a person’s imagination. It means it exists beyond the natural world.

I other words, only in your imagination

No, your understanding is limited on this matter.

In other words, only in your imagination -- and, in religion, taught to people for them to believe in under threat of internal punishment. Other supernatural beings, like fairies, often believed in by children, inflict no punishment on non-believers and adults are not expected to believe in them.

The assertion that the natural world is all there is is a metaphysical and philosophical claim in itself—a claim which you are attempting to proseletyze and impose on believers of other religions with an evangelical fervor. You’re really projecting the whole “religious people forcing other people to believe” something and its quite imperialistic. Then again, self-awareness only exists in the imagination too I suppose.

Calm yourself. The above info on supernatural beings is simply factual. Nothing is imposed, proselytized, forced or imperialistic.

Oh well it must be “merely factual”, because you said so!! Yes massah, whatever you say boss.

Not because anyone said so; because what is natural can be studied scientifically, while what is supernatural can only be believed.

Scientific study is merely observation of phenomenon; it cannot explain “Why” a thing happens outside of human conjecture. At least religious people are honest about what they believe, you seem to be unaware that a belief in nothing is still a belief.

pp seems unaware that non-believers in religion simply reject the claims of supernaturalism espoused by religions.

It’s one thing to reject a belief, but it comes across that you also want to impose your belief on the people who believe in a religion different than yours. People believe God cares about them—why are so many people in this thread hellbent on telling them that he doesn’t? That is literally proselytizing. Or they keep asking why, why, why—why do you care what other people believe at all, and why do they need to prove anything to you when you already have an established belief?

I don’t give a damn what you believe

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Anonymous wrote:Is he psycho, like the people who lock their family in basement and punish if anyone tries to escape? I mean seriously think about it, what if he really is a genius nut job with uncapped power?

don't worry about, because he's "supernatural" i.e., he exists only in your imagination.

Supernatural doesn’t mean something exists only in a person’s imagination. It means it exists beyond the natural world.

I other words, only in your imagination

No, your understanding is limited on this matter.

In other words, only in your imagination -- and, in religion, taught to people for them to believe in under threat of internal punishment. Other supernatural beings, like fairies, often believed in by children, inflict no punishment on non-believers and adults are not expected to believe in them.

The assertion that the natural world is all there is is a metaphysical and philosophical claim in itself—a claim which you are attempting to proseletyze and impose on believers of other religions with an evangelical fervor. You’re really projecting the whole “religious people forcing other people to believe” something and its quite imperialistic. Then again, self-awareness only exists in the imagination too I suppose.

Calm yourself. The above info on supernatural beings is simply factual. Nothing is imposed, proselytized, forced or imperialistic.

Oh well it must be “merely factual”, because you said so!! Yes massah, whatever you say boss.

Not because anyone said so; because what is natural can be studied scientifically, while what is supernatural can only be believed.

Scientific study is merely observation of phenomenon; it cannot explain “Why” a thing happens outside of human conjecture. At least religious people are honest about what they believe, you seem to be unaware that a belief in nothing is still a belief.

pp seems unaware that non-believers in religion simply reject the claims of supernaturalism espoused by religions.

It’s one thing to reject a belief, but it comes across that you also want to impose your belief on the people who believe in a religion different than yours. People believe God cares about them—why are so many people in this thread hellbent on telling them that he doesn’t? That is literally proselytizing. Or they keep asking why, why, why—why do you care what other people believe at all, and why do they need to prove anything to you when you already have an established belief?

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see. He created this earth for us to enjoy with the landscapes of the mountains and oceans. I enjoy the seasons ranging from spring where the flowers bloom, to the fall with the beautiful autumn leaves. Then there’s the people. I love my family and there’s many amazing people I’ve met throughout my life. It hasn’t been all rainbows and unicorns, but I’ve lived a much better life than most of the world.

So the fact that most people are less happy than you means there’s a God who cares about everyone? Doesn’t make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Is he psycho, like the people who lock their family in basement and punish if anyone tries to escape? I mean seriously think about it, what if he really is a genius nut job with uncapped power?

don't worry about, because he's "supernatural" i.e., he exists only in your imagination.

Supernatural doesn’t mean something exists only in a person’s imagination. It means it exists beyond the natural world.

I other words, only in your imagination

No, your understanding is limited on this matter.

In other words, only in your imagination -- and, in religion, taught to people for them to believe in under threat of internal punishment. Other supernatural beings, like fairies, often believed in by children, inflict no punishment on non-believers and adults are not expected to believe in them.

The assertion that the natural world is all there is is a metaphysical and philosophical claim in itself—a claim which you are attempting to proseletyze and impose on believers of other religions with an evangelical fervor. You’re really projecting the whole “religious people forcing other people to believe” something and its quite imperialistic. Then again, self-awareness only exists in the imagination too I suppose.

Calm yourself. The above info on supernatural beings is simply factual. Nothing is imposed, proselytized, forced or imperialistic.

Oh well it must be “merely factual”, because you said so!! Yes massah, whatever you say boss.

Not because anyone said so; because what is natural can be studied scientifically, while what is supernatural can only be believed.

Scientific study is merely observation of phenomenon; it cannot explain “Why” a thing happens outside of human conjecture. At least religious people are honest about what they believe, you seem to be unaware that a belief in nothing is still a belief.

pp seems unaware that non-believers in religion simply reject the claims of supernaturalism espoused by religions.

Like anti vaxxers? It’s still a belief.

Not like anti-vaxxers. there is scientific proof that vaccines work. There is no proof of God or an afterlife. It's all faith.

Anonymous wrote:Let’s see. He created this earth for us to enjoy with the landscapes of the mountains and oceans. I enjoy the seasons ranging from spring where the flowers bloom, to the fall with the beautiful autumn leaves. Then there’s the people. I love my family and there’s many amazing people I’ve met throughout my life. It hasn’t been all rainbows and unicorns, but I’ve lived a much better life than most of the world.

So the fact that most people are less happy than you means there’s a God who cares about everyone? Doesn’t make sense.

Anonymous wrote:Let’s see. He created this earth for us to enjoy with the landscapes of the mountains and oceans. I enjoy the seasons ranging from spring where the flowers bloom, to the fall with the beautiful autumn leaves. Then there’s the people. I love my family and there’s many amazing people I’ve met throughout my life. It hasn’t been all rainbows and unicorns, but I’ve lived a much better life than most of the world.

You just spoke to one of the main points of this argument. “I lived a much better life than most of the world.” How does this prove that God cares (what about all the people living awful lives? I’m not trying to be snarky.

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Anonymous wrote:Is he psycho, like the people who lock their family in basement and punish if anyone tries to escape? I mean seriously think about it, what if he really is a genius nut job with uncapped power?

don't worry about, because he's "supernatural" i.e., he exists only in your imagination.

Supernatural doesn’t mean something exists only in a person’s imagination. It means it exists beyond the natural world.

I other words, only in your imagination

No, your understanding is limited on this matter.

In other words, only in your imagination -- and, in religion, taught to people for them to believe in under threat of internal punishment. Other supernatural beings, like fairies, often believed in by children, inflict no punishment on non-believers and adults are not expected to believe in them.

The assertion that the natural world is all there is is a metaphysical and philosophical claim in itself—a claim which you are attempting to proseletyze and impose on believers of other religions with an evangelical fervor. You’re really projecting the whole “religious people forcing other people to believe” something and its quite imperialistic. Then again, self-awareness only exists in the imagination too I suppose.

Calm yourself. The above info on supernatural beings is simply factual. Nothing is imposed, proselytized, forced or imperialistic.

Oh well it must be “merely factual”, because you said so!! Yes massah, whatever you say boss.

Not because anyone said so; because what is natural can be studied scientifically, while what is supernatural can only be believed.

Scientific study is merely observation of phenomenon; it cannot explain “Why” a thing happens outside of human conjecture. At least religious people are honest about what they believe, you seem to be unaware that a belief in nothing is still a belief.

pp seems unaware that non-believers in religion simply reject the claims of supernaturalism espoused by religions.

Like anti vaxxers? It’s still a belief.

Let’s see. He created this earth for us to enjoy with the landscapes of the mountains and oceans. I enjoy the seasons ranging from spring where the flowers bloom, to the fall with the beautiful autumn leaves. Then there’s the people. I love my family and there’s many amazing people I’ve met throughout my life. It hasn’t been all rainbows and unicorns, but I’ve lived a much better life than most of the world.

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Anonymous wrote:Is he psycho, like the people who lock their family in basement and punish if anyone tries to escape? I mean seriously think about it, what if he really is a genius nut job with uncapped power?

don't worry about, because he's "supernatural" i.e., he exists only in your imagination.

Supernatural doesn’t mean something exists only in a person’s imagination. It means it exists beyond the natural world.

I other words, only in your imagination

No, your understanding is limited on this matter.

In other words, only in your imagination -- and, in religion, taught to people for them to believe in under threat of internal punishment. Other supernatural beings, like fairies, often believed in by children, inflict no punishment on non-believers and adults are not expected to believe in them.

The assertion that the natural world is all there is is a metaphysical and philosophical claim in itself—a claim which you are attempting to proseletyze and impose on believers of other religions with an evangelical fervor. You’re really projecting the whole “religious people forcing other people to believe” something and its quite imperialistic. Then again, self-awareness only exists in the imagination too I suppose.

Calm yourself. The above info on supernatural beings is simply factual. Nothing is imposed, proselytized, forced or imperialistic.

Oh well it must be “merely factual”, because you said so!! Yes massah, whatever you say boss.

Not because anyone said so; because what is natural can be studied scientifically, while what is supernatural can only be believed.

Scientific study is merely observation of phenomenon; it cannot explain “Why” a thing happens outside of human conjecture. At least religious people are honest about what they believe, you seem to be unaware that a belief in nothing is still a belief.

pp seems unaware that non-believers in religion simply reject the claims of supernaturalism espoused by religions.

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Anonymous wrote:Is he psycho, like the people who lock their family in basement and punish if anyone tries to escape? I mean seriously think about it, what if he really is a genius nut job with uncapped power?

don't worry about, because he's "supernatural" i.e., he exists only in your imagination.

Supernatural doesn’t mean something exists only in a person’s imagination. It means it exists beyond the natural world.

I other words, only in your imagination

No, your understanding is limited on this matter.

In other words, only in your imagination -- and, in religion, taught to people for them to believe in under threat of internal punishment. Other supernatural beings, like fairies, often believed in by children, inflict no punishment on non-believers and adults are not expected to believe in them.

The assertion that the natural world is all there is is a metaphysical and philosophical claim in itself—a claim which you are attempting to proseletyze and impose on believers of other religions with an evangelical fervor. You’re really projecting the whole “religious people forcing other people to believe” something and its quite imperialistic. Then again, self-awareness only exists in the imagination too I suppose.

Calm yourself. The above info on supernatural beings is simply factual. Nothing is imposed, proselytized, forced or imperialistic.

Oh well it must be “merely factual”, because you said so!! Yes massah, whatever you say boss.

Not because anyone said so; because what is natural can be studied scientifically, while what is supernatural can only be believed.

Science has its limits.

While supernaturalism has no limits -- you can conjure up any beliefs that can be imagined and people have done that, as witnessed by the multitude of religious beliefs that exist.