Anonymous wrote:Having a Latin grandparent and still being white passing is not diversity. That kid doesn’t experience life and adversity as your average brown kid. It’s disingenuous. These schools be advertising 50% POC but it looks more like 20%.

I’m the PP and I agree. This is not what I meant by White diversity. In the case you present that child would have the option of checking off something other than White if they chose to be disingenuous. Non Spanish speaking White diverse ethnic groups do not.

Having a Latin grandparent and still being white passing is not diversity. That kid doesn’t experience life and adversity as your average brown kid. It’s disingenuous. These schools be advertising 50% POC but it looks more like 20%.

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Anonymous wrote:That video is terrible, and most SSSAS parents are embarrassed of it. I'm shocked it is being pushed forward as representative of our wonderful school.

If that's the stance of "most SSSAS parents," then to me THAT'S what's a bad sign about the school community - talk about taking oneself way too seriously. I thought it was cute and a nice reminder that these are places to education 5-18 year olds, which shouldn't (just) be solemn and scholarly places.

+1. Except the school is very, very white. Sure they had a few token black kids featured, but the overwhelming number of all white kids in the group shots was certainly noticeable. Yes, i know it’s a Catholic school, still appeared more white than others (except maybe Gonzaga). Still, very cute video.

It isn’t Catholic. SSSAS is Episcopal.

Thanks. The point remains, it’s very white. Alarmingly so.

That’s just the demographic makeup of the school.

SSSAS is 28% people of color. Not horrible. But, I agree, very white compared to other Episcopal schools like NCS/STA.

But the PP is talking about Black kids and they about the same percentage. The only significant difference is that the Cathedral’s have more Asian kids.

I was referring to all minorities. I strongly dislike “person of color” stats as it’s largely misleading. I don’t consider a kid that has one Hispanic grandparent as a minority in many cases. Nonetheless, even the “28%” is far below peer in this area that usually hovers around 40%.

What would you have the child report as if two grandparents are nonwhite but not the same kind of nonwhite? You don't seem to think they "qualify" as a BIPOC but they are also not "just white." I think multiracial students further enrich a school. But maybe you don't?

Well if their grandparents are nonwhite, but their parents are white, I’d say they were white. Anywhere else in life some people want to be considered white, but when schools are looking to diversify, now they want their kids to be considered nonwhite.
I guess it’s just like the $5 Indian trick.

I wish my views on the world were as limited as yours. How much simpler the world must be for you.

I think whatever racial identity people put on medical history, census, etc, should apply here.

To deny race is to erase it. I would never deny someone their identity.

Yes, and there is so much variety of identity even among those who would be placed in the “white” category as well. Different ethnic backgrounds can have pale skin too. The world is a big and diverse place on many ways other than skin color.

Different ethnic backgrounds, but the same white race. We also have different ethnic backgrounds within the Black race.

True, but all "black" people are seen as "bringing diversity" in that case of DMV schools. Not the case if you check white off and there is no insight into your ethnic makeup, or that or your close relatives...

Our (because this is a family discussion) first choice school changed three times. The first school we really liked but came to realize that it was also the smaller of the schools we were looking at (which could be tough in terms of friend variety) as well as it was the furthest which especially now with no commute to the office, would've sucked to have to drive to and from everyday.

The second "first choice" school was the one DC was leaning into from the get-go. We weren't against it at all but we really wanted to see everything else out there.

What ended up being our actual first choice was a school I didnt even think we would be interested in. Funny how that works. DC got in so it all worked out.

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Anonymous wrote:That video is terrible, and most SSSAS parents are embarrassed of it. I'm shocked it is being pushed forward as representative of our wonderful school.

If that's the stance of "most SSSAS parents," then to me THAT'S what's a bad sign about the school community - talk about taking oneself way too seriously. I thought it was cute and a nice reminder that these are places to education 5-18 year olds, which shouldn't (just) be solemn and scholarly places.

+1. Except the school is very, very white. Sure they had a few token black kids featured, but the overwhelming number of all white kids in the group shots was certainly noticeable. Yes, i know it’s a Catholic school, still appeared more white than others (except maybe Gonzaga). Still, very cute video.

It isn’t Catholic. SSSAS is Episcopal.

Thanks. The point remains, it’s very white. Alarmingly so.

That’s just the demographic makeup of the school.

SSSAS is 28% people of color. Not horrible. But, I agree, very white compared to other Episcopal schools like NCS/STA.

But the PP is talking about Black kids and they about the same percentage. The only significant difference is that the Cathedral’s have more Asian kids.

I was referring to all minorities. I strongly dislike “person of color” stats as it’s largely misleading. I don’t consider a kid that has one Hispanic grandparent as a minority in many cases. Nonetheless, even the “28%” is far below peer in this area that usually hovers around 40%.

What would you have the child report as if two grandparents are nonwhite but not the same kind of nonwhite? You don't seem to think they "qualify" as a BIPOC but they are also not "just white." I think multiracial students further enrich a school. But maybe you don't?

Well[b] if their grandparents are nonwhite, but their parents are white, I’d say they were white. Anywhere else in life some people want to be considered white, but when schools are looking to diversify, now they want their kids to be considered nonwhite.
I guess it’s just like the $5 Indian trick.

But if the grandparents are nonwhite, how are both parents white? At a minimum, the parent is half white.

My child is half white, a quarter Asian and a quarter Latinx, but is white passing. We did not feel comfortable marking him as POC as he has all the privileges of a full white male and we are full pay, but I understand if another family did. Every family, child and circumstances are different.

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Anonymous wrote:That video is terrible, and most SSSAS parents are embarrassed of it. I'm shocked it is being pushed forward as representative of our wonderful school.

If that's the stance of "most SSSAS parents," then to me THAT'S what's a bad sign about the school community - talk about taking oneself way too seriously. I thought it was cute and a nice reminder that these are places to education 5-18 year olds, which shouldn't (just) be solemn and scholarly places.

+1. Except the school is very, very white. Sure they had a few token black kids featured, but the overwhelming number of all white kids in the group shots was certainly noticeable. Yes, i know it’s a Catholic school, still appeared more white than others (except maybe Gonzaga). Still, very cute video.

It isn’t Catholic. SSSAS is Episcopal.

Thanks. The point remains, it’s very white. Alarmingly so.

That’s just the demographic makeup of the school.

SSSAS is 28% people of color. Not horrible. But, I agree, very white compared to other Episcopal schools like NCS/STA.

But the PP is talking about Black kids and they about the same percentage. The only significant difference is that the Cathedral’s have more Asian kids.

I was referring to all minorities. I strongly dislike “person of color” stats as it’s largely misleading. I don’t consider a kid that has one Hispanic grandparent as a minority in many cases. Nonetheless, even the “28%” is far below peer in this area that usually hovers around 40%.

What would you have the child report as if two grandparents are nonwhite but not the same kind of nonwhite? You don't seem to think they "qualify" as a BIPOC but they are also not "just white." I think multiracial students further enrich a school. But maybe you don't?

Well if their grandparents are nonwhite, but their parents are white, I’d say they were white. Anywhere else in life some people want to be considered white, but when schools are looking to diversify, now they want their kids to be considered nonwhite.
I guess it’s just like the $5 Indian trick.

I wish my views on the world were as limited as yours. How much simpler the world must be for you.

I think whatever racial identity people put on medical history, census, etc, should apply here.

To deny race is to erase it. I would never deny someone their identity.

Yes, and there is so much variety of identity even among those who would be placed in the “white” category as well. Different ethnic backgrounds can have pale skin too. The world is a big and diverse place on many ways other than skin color.

Different ethnic backgrounds, but the same white race. We also have different ethnic backgrounds within the Black race.

The wider world is, yes. The DMV private school world? Not so much.

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Anonymous wrote:That video is terrible, and most SSSAS parents are embarrassed of it. I'm shocked it is being pushed forward as representative of our wonderful school.

If that's the stance of "most SSSAS parents," then to me THAT'S what's a bad sign about the school community - talk about taking oneself way too seriously. I thought it was cute and a nice reminder that these are places to education 5-18 year olds, which shouldn't (just) be solemn and scholarly places.

+1. Except the school is very, very white. Sure they had a few token black kids featured, but the overwhelming number of all white kids in the group shots was certainly noticeable. Yes, i know it’s a Catholic school, still appeared more white than others (except maybe Gonzaga). Still, very cute video.

It isn’t Catholic. SSSAS is Episcopal.

Thanks. The point remains, it’s very white. Alarmingly so.

That’s just the demographic makeup of the school.

SSSAS is 28% people of color. Not horrible. But, I agree, very white compared to other Episcopal schools like NCS/STA.

But the PP is talking about Black kids and they about the same percentage. The only significant difference is that the Cathedral’s have more Asian kids.

I was referring to all minorities. I strongly dislike “person of color” stats as it’s largely misleading. I don’t consider a kid that has one Hispanic grandparent as a minority in many cases. Nonetheless, even the “28%” is far below peer in this area that usually hovers around 40%.

What would you have the child report as if two grandparents are nonwhite but not the same kind of nonwhite? You don't seem to think they "qualify" as a BIPOC but they are also not "just white." I think multiracial students further enrich a school. But maybe you don't?

Well if their grandparents are nonwhite, but their parents are white, I’d say they were white. Anywhere else in life some people want to be considered white, but when schools are looking to diversify, now they want their kids to be considered nonwhite.
I guess it’s just like the $5 Indian trick.

I wish my views on the world were as limited as yours. How much simpler the world must be for you.

I think whatever racial identity people put on medical history, census, etc, should apply here.

To deny race is to erase it. I would never deny someone their identity.

Yes, and there is so much variety of identity even among those who would be placed in the “white” category as well. Different ethnic backgrounds can have pale skin too. The world is a big and diverse place on many ways other than skin color.

I have changed my mind multiple times and if we get in everywhere we are accepted, I still have questions that can be a tipping factor.

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Anonymous wrote:That video is terrible, and most SSSAS parents are embarrassed of it. I'm shocked it is being pushed forward as representative of our wonderful school.

If that's the stance of "most SSSAS parents," then to me THAT'S what's a bad sign about the school community - talk about taking oneself way too seriously. I thought it was cute and a nice reminder that these are places to education 5-18 year olds, which shouldn't (just) be solemn and scholarly places.

+1. Except the school is very, very white. Sure they had a few token black kids featured, but the overwhelming number of all white kids in the group shots was certainly noticeable. Yes, i know it’s a Catholic school, still appeared more white than others (except maybe Gonzaga). Still, very cute video.

It isn’t Catholic. SSSAS is Episcopal.

Thanks. The point remains, it’s very white. Alarmingly so.

That’s just the demographic makeup of the school.

SSSAS is 28% people of color. Not horrible. But, I agree, very white compared to other Episcopal schools like NCS/STA.

But the PP is talking about Black kids and they about the same percentage. The only significant difference is that the Cathedral’s have more Asian kids.

I was referring to all minorities. I strongly dislike “person of color” stats as it’s largely misleading. I don’t consider a kid that has one Hispanic grandparent as a minority in many cases. Nonetheless, even the “28%” is far below peer in this area that usually hovers around 40%.

What would you have the child report as if two grandparents are nonwhite but not the same kind of nonwhite? You don't seem to think they "qualify" as a BIPOC but they are also not "just white." I think multiracial students further enrich a school. But maybe you don't?

Well if their grandparents are nonwhite, but their parents are white, I’d say they were white. Anywhere else in life some people want to be considered white, but when schools are looking to diversify, now they want their kids to be considered nonwhite.
I guess it’s just like the $5 Indian trick.

I wish my views on the world were as limited as yours. How much simpler the world must be for you.

I think whatever racial identity people put on medical history, census, etc, should apply here.

To deny race is to erase it. I would never deny someone their identity.

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Anonymous wrote:That video is terrible, and most SSSAS parents are embarrassed of it. I'm shocked it is being pushed forward as representative of our wonderful school.

If that's the stance of "most SSSAS parents," then to me THAT'S what's a bad sign about the school community - talk about taking oneself way too seriously. I thought it was cute and a nice reminder that these are places to education 5-18 year olds, which shouldn't (just) be solemn and scholarly places.

+1. Except the school is very, very white. Sure they had a few token black kids featured, but the overwhelming number of all white kids in the group shots was certainly noticeable. Yes, i know it’s a Catholic school, still appeared more white than others (except maybe Gonzaga). Still, very cute video.

It isn’t Catholic. SSSAS is Episcopal.

Thanks. The point remains, it’s very white. Alarmingly so.

That’s just the demographic makeup of the school.

SSSAS is 28% people of color. Not horrible. But, I agree, very white compared to other Episcopal schools like NCS/STA.

But the PP is talking about Black kids and they about the same percentage. The only significant difference is that the Cathedral’s have more Asian kids.

I was referring to all minorities. I strongly dislike “person of color” stats as it’s largely misleading. I don’t consider a kid that has one Hispanic grandparent as a minority in many cases. Nonetheless, even the “28%” is far below peer in this area that usually hovers around 40%.

What would you have the child report as if two grandparents are nonwhite but not the same kind of nonwhite? You don't seem to think they "qualify" as a BIPOC but they are also not "just white." I think multiracial students further enrich a school. But maybe you don't?

Well if their grandparents are nonwhite, but their parents are white, I’d say they were white. Anywhere else in life some people want to be considered white, but when schools are looking to diversify, now they want their kids to be considered nonwhite.
I guess it’s just like the $5 Indian trick.

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Anonymous wrote:That video is terrible, and most SSSAS parents are embarrassed of it. I'm shocked it is being pushed forward as representative of our wonderful school.

If that's the stance of "most SSSAS parents," then to me THAT'S what's a bad sign about the school community - talk about taking oneself way too seriously. I thought it was cute and a nice reminder that these are places to education 5-18 year olds, which shouldn't (just) be solemn and scholarly places.

+1. Except the school is very, very white. Sure they had a few token black kids featured, but the overwhelming number of all white kids in the group shots was certainly noticeable. Yes, i know it’s a Catholic school, still appeared more white than others (except maybe Gonzaga). Still, very cute video.

It isn’t Catholic. SSSAS is Episcopal.

Thanks. The point remains, it’s very white. Alarmingly so.

That’s just the demographic makeup of the school.

SSSAS is 28% people of color. Not horrible. But, I agree, very white compared to other Episcopal schools like NCS/STA.

But the PP is talking about Black kids and they about the same percentage. The only significant difference is that the Cathedral’s have more Asian kids.

I was referring to all minorities. I strongly dislike “person of color” stats as it’s largely misleading. I don’t consider a kid that has one Hispanic grandparent as a minority in many cases. Nonetheless, even the “28%” is far below peer in this area that usually hovers around 40%.

What would you have the child report as if two grandparents are nonwhite but not the same kind of nonwhite? You don't seem to think they "qualify" as a BIPOC but they are also not "just white." I think multiracial students further enrich a school. But maybe you don't?

This exactly the problem with these labels

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Anonymous wrote:That video is terrible, and most SSSAS parents are embarrassed of it. I'm shocked it is being pushed forward as representative of our wonderful school.

If that's the stance of "most SSSAS parents," then to me THAT'S what's a bad sign about the school community - talk about taking oneself way too seriously. I thought it was cute and a nice reminder that these are places to education 5-18 year olds, which shouldn't (just) be solemn and scholarly places.

+1. Except the school is very, very white. Sure they had a few token black kids featured, but the overwhelming number of all white kids in the group shots was certainly noticeable. Yes, i know it’s a Catholic school, still appeared more white than others (except maybe Gonzaga). Still, very cute video.

It isn’t Catholic. SSSAS is Episcopal.

Thanks. The point remains, it’s very white. Alarmingly so.

That’s just the demographic makeup of the school.

SSSAS is 28% people of color. Not horrible. But, I agree, very white compared to other Episcopal schools like NCS/STA.

But the PP is talking about Black kids and they about the same percentage. The only significant difference is that the Cathedral’s have more Asian kids.

I was referring to all minorities. I strongly dislike “person of color” stats as it’s largely misleading. I don’t consider a kid that has one Hispanic grandparent as a minority in many cases. Nonetheless, even the “28%” is far below peer in this area that usually hovers around 40%.

What would you have the child report as if two grandparents are nonwhite but not the same kind of nonwhite? You don't seem to think they "qualify" as a BIPOC but they are also not "just white." I think multiracial students further enrich a school. But maybe you don't?

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Anonymous wrote:That video is terrible, and most SSSAS parents are embarrassed of it. I'm shocked it is being pushed forward as representative of our wonderful school.

Why? It wouldn’t make me change my direction and apply there but it certainly isn’t offensive. It showed kids having fun.

It’s definitely cringey, but not a game changer for us with a 9th grade applicant.

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