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Anonymous wrote:Why are they doing this? The vax mandate was great

It destroys small businesses, especially restaurants.

Why, though? Most of DC is vaccinated, and this should encourage those who aren't to get vaccinated.

No. It encourages people (including those who are vaccinated) to not patronize businesses.

I'm vaccinated, and very much against mandates. I won't eat in a restaurant that requires a vaccine. That's absurd--three years ago no restaurant was asking to see proof of a measles shot before they'd let me eat.

Me too. Mandates are coercive and abhorrent to me.

+1, it's segregation plain and simple. It's funny that you have to be vaccinated to eat at McDonalds in the name of "health."

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Anonymous wrote:This feels so unfair. So unvaccinated adults can swan around unmasked in restaurants and bars, but my fully vaxxed kids have to continue wearing their masks for 8 hours a day in school. Drop the school mask mandate before dropping the vax mandate.

Schools will be next. Time to turn up the heat.

I am interested in pushing the Mayor on this, but how? I’m so sick of this bio safety theater.

Well, you might try starting a bunch of troll posts on DCUM and then responding to yourself repeatedly to make it look like more people agree with you than actually do. That might show her.

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, DC should get rid of the mask mandates and ramp up the vaccine mandates. I just experienced this in Switzerland and their vax passport system works really, really well for increasing vaccination rates.

If you know anything about Switzerland, they are probably more anti-centralized government than the US.

This is false. I’m Swiss, grew up there, while family lives there, visit twice a year. The vaxx passport has been highly controversial, causing massive demonstrations and general discontent. The Bundesrat (Executive) is expected to revoke the passports this Wednesday.

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Anonymous wrote:This feels so unfair. So unvaccinated adults can swan around unmasked in restaurants and bars, but my fully vaxxed kids have to continue wearing their masks for 8 hours a day in school. Drop the school mask mandate before dropping the vax mandate.

Schools will be next. Time to turn up the heat.

I am interested in pushing the Mayor on this, but how? I’m so sick of this bio safety theater.

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Anonymous wrote:This feels so unfair. So unvaccinated adults can swan around unmasked in restaurants and bars, but my fully vaxxed kids have to continue wearing their masks for 8 hours a day in school. Drop the school mask mandate before dropping the vax mandate.

Schools will be next. Time to turn up the heat.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they doing this? The vax mandate was great

It destroys small businesses, especially restaurants.

Why, though? Most of DC is vaccinated, and this should encourage those who aren't to get vaccinated.

No. It encourages people (including those who are vaccinated) to not patronize businesses.

I'm vaccinated, and very much against mandates. I won't eat in a restaurant that requires a vaccine. That's absurd--three years ago no restaurant was asking to see proof of a measles shot before they'd let me eat.

Me too. Mandates are coercive and abhorrent to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they doing this? The vax mandate was great

It destroys small businesses, especially restaurants.

Why, though? Most of DC is vaccinated, and this should encourage those who aren't to get vaccinated.

No. It encourages people (including those who are vaccinated) to not patronize businesses.

I'm vaccinated, and very much against mandates. I won't eat in a restaurant that requires a vaccine. That's absurd--three years ago no restaurant was asking to see proof of a measles shot before they'd let me eat.

Me too. Mandates are coercive and abhorrent to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they doing this? The vax mandate was great

It destroys small businesses, especially restaurants.

Why, though? Most of DC is vaccinated, and this should encourage those who aren't to get vaccinated.

No. It encourages people (including those who are vaccinated) to not patronize businesses.

I'm vaccinated, and very much against mandates. I won't eat in a restaurant that requires a vaccine. That's absurd--three years ago no restaurant was asking to see proof of a measles shot before they'd let me eat.

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Anonymous wrote:Holy moly people, you’d sacrifice children who are too young to be vaxxed and vulnerable populations just so you don’t have to disrupt your life by getting vaccinated? Haven’t our kids suffered enough?

Yes, yes they would. This has been their consistent messaging since March 2020.

Remaining unvaccinated has become a political litmus test and a part of identity politics.

Anonymous wrote:If anything, DC should get rid of the mask mandates and ramp up the vaccine mandates. I just experienced this in Switzerland and their vax passport system works really, really well for increasing vaccination rates.

If you know anything about Switzerland, they are probably more anti-centralized government than the US.

Anonymous wrote:Holy moly people, you’d sacrifice children who are too young to be vaxxed and vulnerable populations just so you don’t have to disrupt your life by getting vaccinated? Haven’t our kids suffered enough?

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DP. The unvaccinated pose a very meaningful risk to society as a whole. But it is fashionable now to forget that anyone has any civic duty to society as a whole.

The unvaccinated are the ones who fill up hospital beds, end up seriously ill, or die. I guess you'd say, well, that's on them; their serious illnesses, hospital stays and deaths (or long Covid) don't hurt me as a vaccinated person so why do I care? I care because the unvaccinated still put many people at risk: Children who can't be vaccinated yet, people of all ages who can't be vaccinated, people who are vaccinated but for whom even a "mild" case of Covid could end up being devastating. But there's zero concern at this point for those vulnerable people and an attitude of "Let them stay home forever, then, so the rest of us can Go On Living!" Nope, those people are not part of society, apparently.

At the end of the day, it seems like this comes down to some desire to punish people for making a "bad" decision. So, it's not about public health policy, but rather its some sort of moral judgment.

And, again, the vaccines (unfortunately) don't end transmission. So, the at-risk people will remain at-risk even if everyone else is vaccinated. These mandates are futile.

We need to accept, as a society, that some percentage of Americans won't get vaccinated no matter what we do, and plan for the future accordingly. Part of that will be accepting that people will keep dying from covid forever.

I think many of us do want to punish those refusing to act in the best interest of society. To act so smug and cavalier without fearing consequences is not right.
It’s also about equity. If my family must comply with vaccinations, boosters, masking, inconvenience, and constant fear, well guess what. So does yours. To give that type a pass will only lead to more distrust and dangerous individualism.